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10 Teams That Can Win it All-Pat Forde

  • Prescott
    Kentucky, Kansas, and who else.....

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=4858570

    BTW, If you are interested, there is a Mark Titus reference near the bottom of the page with a couple of humorous lines.
  • wildcats20
    He also says Duke cannot win it all. Interesting.
  • Laley23
    I disagree with Purdue. They dont have the horses, or the post game to get ti done.

    Not nearly good enough guard play either.
  • slingshot4ever
    wildcats20 wrote: He also says Duke cannot win it all. Interesting.
    That is because he knows what he is talking about. About time someone from ESPN didn't conform to the ACC in basketball.
  • slingshot4ever
    Quote from article:

    The Minutes will believe Duke might have a chance to win it all when it sees the Blue Devils actually advance past the Sweet 16 for the first time since Chris Duhon was in uniform.

    I believe I posted this on the Duke Clemson thread.
  • wildcats20
    slingshot4ever wrote:
    wildcats20 wrote: He also says Duke cannot win it all. Interesting.
    That is because he knows what he is talking about. About time someone from ESPN didn't conform to the ACC in basketball.
    I'm not saying he is wrong.
  • slingshot4ever
    I thought you might be refuting it given your response of "interesting"
  • wildcats20
    slingshot4ever wrote: I thought you might be refuting it given your response of "interesting"
    More of what you said actually. Someone coming out and saying Duke can't win it.
  • reclegend22
    ESPN hasn't given Duke any credit in years. So this isn't surprising. Of course, Duke is still the network's basketball pride and joy, as the Blue Devils are who America wants to see. There's a reason that only the Lakers have had more televised games on ESPN's family of networks than Duke over the last five years.

    That's ESPN, though.
  • Mulva
    Laley23 wrote: I disagree with Purdue. They dont have the horses, or the post game to get ti done.

    Not nearly good enough guard play either.
    Agree, and throw BYU in there too. Zero chance.
  • reclegend22
    Yes, if Patty thinks Purdue is winning the national title, he's sorely mistaken. I probably should have stopped reading there.

    I'm not mad because I think Duke will win the championship, because I don't think it will. I think Duke, right now, will be as good as it has been the past two Marches. Ford(with an e) is just talking out his ass here.
  • centralbucksfan
    Laley23 wrote: I disagree with Purdue. They dont have the horses, or the post game to get ti done.

    Not nearly good enough guard play either.
    If Purdue gets their starting PG, Jackson back, and if he can play up to he has in the past, they could. Purdue is doing what they are doing this year without him. That is impressive to me as Jackson started every game last year.
  • Prescott
    Has anybody seen BYU??

    BYU defeated Arizona State 81-68 even though their leading scorer, Jimmer Fredette, was 1/10 from the field. Arizona State lost to Duke at MSG by a score of 64-53.The game was tied with 13 minutes left.

    I am not saying that BYU is legit. I am saying I have not seen them , so I will reserve judgment.

    I would like to see Fredette.He did throw up 49 points on Arizona.
  • thedynasty1998
    Purdue doesn't have a chance. Other than that, I think the others are realistic, although I'd limit it to about 6-7 teams.
  • Azubuike24
    It's really tough to use the "win it all" term. I think it makes more sense to debate who can make the Final Four. Anyone this year can certainly lose prior to the Final Four. Then again, there is some history of teams making the Final Four, but hardly anyone can cut down the nets unless they were one of the select favorites coming in.

    Florida (in 2005) and Syracuse (in 2003) as #3's and Arizona (in 1997) as a #4 are the closest I can remember in recent memory of teams who may have not been on this type of list who ended up winning it all. That suggests, that at most, there are probably 12-15 teams with any shot at all.
  • Mulva
    Prescott wrote: Has anybody seen BYU??

    BYU defeated Arizona State 81-68 even though their leading scorer, Jimmer Fredette, was 1/10 from the field. Arizona State lost to Duke at MSG by a score of 64-53.The game was tied with 13 minutes left.

    I am not saying that BYU is legit. I am saying I have not seen them , so I will reserve judgment.

    I would like to see Fredette.He did throw up 49 points on Arizona.
    I saw most of the game they just beat SDSU 71-69, although my online stream disconnected a few times throughout.

    They're a great shooting team and very fundamentally sound, but they just aren't athletic enough to make a real run at it I don't think. They would need perfect match ups.

    Fredette is legit though. He put up around 30 in that game.
  • Laley23
    centralbucksfan wrote:

    If Purdue gets their starting PG, Jackson back, and if he can play up to he has in the past, they could. Purdue is doing what they are doing this year without him. That is impressive to me as Jackson started every game last year.
    Thats true. But I was basing it off of this years team. Although even with Jackson back, and its a huge if hed be effective, I dont think Johnson is enough in the post to stop teams in the sweet 16 and beyond.
  • cview
    Kansas
    Kentucky
    Syracuse


    One of those three will be the national champion. I'd take that list vs the field right now, for sure. I don't think there is a Final Four lock this year the way UNC was in 09 or Florida was in 07 though. Kansas and Kentucky are locks to play for a Final Four berth though IMO. Aside from that, I wouldn't be surprised if anyone else got bounced before even getting to the Elite 8.
  • reclegend22
    No locks, but Kansas and Kentucky definitely are the favorites to reach the Final Four this year.

    If I were picking a list of teams that I thought had the most legitimate shot of bringing home the hardware, I'd take UK, KU, Syracuse and Nova. Behind the senior leadership and astounding talent of Scottie Reynolds, Nova, despite being guard heavy once again, has a serious shot at winning it all. These are the big four; it's up to the rest of the field to produce a club that is ready to take on the challenge of bringing these teams down.
  • centralbucksfan
    thedynasty1998 wrote: Purdue doesn't have a chance. Other than that, I think the others are realistic, although I'd limit it to about 6-7 teams.
    Well, that does it. Purdue should pack it in for the year I guess. lol

    Anyone that has followed college basketball for any amount of time...should know NEVER say anyone never has a chance. More times then not, there is at least one team that makes it there that "never" had a chance. IMO, there is NO team that is head and shoulders above anyone this year. There is no "UNC" this year as there was last year.
  • thedynasty1998
    Many years you have a couple teams that are the odds on favorites, and you have that in Kentucky and Kansas. Then you have the second tier teams that can get to the final 4 and you are not surprised. Then there is that next tier. I think Purdue is in that 3rd category. I actually don't think they are much better than OSU, and I don't think anyone will confuse OSU for one of the top teams.

    I would compare Purdue to a Duke, WVU, Kansas State category. They can beat a good team on any given night, but I don't think they are good enough to get through the tourney setting.
  • ZeroCool
    in no particular order

    duke
    texas
    kansas
    kentucky

    sleepers
    tennessee
    villanova
    gonzaga
  • Prescott
    Villanova is NOT a sleeper. They are a favorite.
  • reclegend22
    prescott wrote:Villanova is NOT a sleeper. They are a favorite.
    Are you computer yelling at him because he chose Duke as a team that could win it all?
  • Prescott
    Are you computer yelling at him because he chose Duke as a team that could win it all?
    No. If I wanted to reference duke, I would have referenced duke.

    Villanova can't be considered a SLEEPER when the team is ranked in the top 4 and has ONE loss.