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Alabama's last TD

  • Rotinaj
    People throw the word classless around way to much..Did they need to score that td to secure the game?? I doubt it, but it was far from "classless". Like it was previously stated, nobody in the media complained and neither did Texas so i think that says enough about what most peoples thoughts of the play were.
  • Tiernan
    Mack Brown is way to proud to bring up something like that which was borderline bush league. But he will remember it and hopefully sticks it to some SEC team in the future for good measure.
  • enigmaax
    Tiernan wrote: Mack Brown is way to proud to bring up something like that which was borderline bush league. But he will remember it and hopefully sticks it to some SEC team in the future for good measure.
    I don't know if that'll happen, but I'm sure he'll be happy to pass then hand the ball off three straight times when he's up 24 points on Colorado with 1:42 left. Or hand the ball off three straight times when he was up by 27 on Oklahoma State and got the ball with 2:09 left.

    Were those classless, too?
  • Manhattan Buckeye
    Footwedge wrote:
    Manhattan Buckeye wrote: I still don't think they could have run the clock out. Can someone prove they could? And if so how close was it? When I mean 100% sure I mean absolutely, positively, no doubt sure, as in you have the ball first down with 50 seconds left and your opponent has no TOs. That wasn't the case. Coaches aren't supposed to babysit the other team.

    I can't believe this is even a debate, notice no media people have talked about it, nor has TX.
    Look it up on game cast. College ball running plays takes 45 seconds (appx). After the whistle blows...the clock continues to run ( in order to spot the ball) before the 35 second play clock kicks in. This is slightly different than the pro rule...the pro rule starts a new 40 second play clock once the ball carrier is down.

    There was 1 minute 10 seconds on the clock when they ran the first down play from the 5 yard line.

    As for running out the clock...it wasn't even close. 2 kneel downs...and the clock runs out. If Texas calls their last time out....which I highly doubt they would, then Bama would have needed to take a final knee on 3rd down.

    Saban wanted to rub it in for some reason. His national title trophy reads 37-21 instead of 31 to 21.

    It's bad sportsmabship pure and simple. Someday...he will get his....that karma thing.

    This link shows that the drive started with 1:48 to play. After one play...Texas had a first down with about 1:10 to play. Proof that they could have and should have knelt on the ball.

    http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=300070333&period=4
    My point exactly, how long did it take you to analyze that and type it out? And BTW, I think it is a more than a little close. I don't think a kneel down will take a full 45 seconds, as it shouldn't take the officials 10 seconds to spot a kneel down.

    But more to the point, you think it is the job of the Alabama coaching staff to make this type of analysis in real time or even that the Alabama coaching staff is capable of making this analysis? - bear in mind they are trying to win the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.

    If they passed the ball or ran a statue of liberty play, I would agree that is unsportsmanlike. They didn't. They ran the most conservative play in the play book and Texas didn't stop them. Have we become that pussified of a football nation that running the ball up the middle with that much time on the clock and the score that close is unsportsmanlike? Again, there is a reason why no one in the media is talking about this, nor Texas, nor anyone else but some seemingly oversensitive people here. There was NOTHING wrong with it.
  • rocket31
    Tiernan wrote: Mack Brown is way to proud to bring up something like that which was borderline bush league. But he will remember it and hopefully sticks it to some SEC team in the future for good measure.
  • gyea36
    i totally think saban was running up the score. if mack brown takes a time out after that many plays then you could kick a field goal. i really don't think he would have called a time out, and saban could have won the game with a bit of class. but he didn't, and so goes the sec.
  • grass_licker
    stick class right up your ass, its the national title game and its football like i said before quit whinning go BAMA
  • Footwedge
    Manhattan Buckeye wrote:
    Footwedge wrote:
    Manhattan Buckeye wrote: I still don't think they could have run the clock out. Can someone prove they could? And if so how close was it? When I mean 100% sure I mean absolutely, positively, no doubt sure, as in you have the ball first down with 50 seconds left and your opponent has no TOs. That wasn't the case. Coaches aren't supposed to babysit the other team.

    I can't believe this is even a debate, notice no media people have talked about it, nor has TX.
    Look it up on game cast. College ball running plays takes 45 seconds (appx). After the whistle blows...the clock continues to run ( in order to spot the ball) before the 35 second play clock kicks in. This is slightly different than the pro rule...the pro rule starts a new 40 second play clock once the ball carrier is down.

    There was 1 minute 10 seconds on the clock when they ran the first down play from the 5 yard line.

    As for running out the clock...it wasn't even close. 2 kneel downs...and the clock runs out. If Texas calls their last time out....which I highly doubt they would, then Bama would have needed to take a final knee on 3rd down.

    Saban wanted to rub it in for some reason. His national title trophy reads 37-21 instead of 31 to 21.

    It's bad sportsmabship pure and simple. Someday...he will get his....that karma thing.

    This link shows that the drive started with 1:48 to play. After one play...Texas had a first down with about 1:10 to play. Proof that they could have and should have knelt on the ball.

    http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=300070333&period=4
    My point exactly, how long did it take you to analyze that and type it out? And BTW, I think it is a more than a little close. I don't think a kneel down will take a full 45 seconds, as it shouldn't take the officials 10 seconds to spot a kneel down.

    But more to the point, you think it is the job of the Alabama coaching staff to make this type of analysis in real time or even that the Alabama coaching staff is capable of making this analysis? - bear in mind they are trying to win the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.

    If they passed the ball or ran a statue of liberty play, I would agree that is unsportsmanlike. They didn't. They ran the most conservative play in the play book and Texas didn't stop them. Have we become that pussified of a football nation that running the ball up the middle with that much time on the clock and the score that close is unsportsmanlike? Again, there is a reason why no one in the media is talking about this, nor Texas, nor anyone else but some seemingly oversensitive people here. There was NOTHING wrong with it.
    Did you even open up the link showing the time? I repeat for the last time. Kneel downs would have ended the game after the third down play...even if Texas used it's remainig timeout. Do the math.