Should Ohio State start the season #1? Also, TP and DR debate

• Manhattan Buckeye

  Unlike certain SEC schools, they don't play the likes of Chattanooga, Furman and Western Carolina in "bye" weeks later in the season.
  
  If Ohio St. is undefeated, they will play ahead of a 1 loss SEC team.
  
  And by the way, the NCAA needs to reel in these ridiculous schedules from the SEC. If nothing else I-AA teams if not banned from scheduling, should not play I-A teams after October 1.
• vball10set

  tk421;1485544 wrote:No, I don't think they should be ranked ahead of a 1 loss SEC team even if they go undefeated. With that schedule, they better go 12-0. They don't play anyone.

  lol
• SportsAndLady

  

  They don't play anyone?!
  
  I understand they don't have the most brutal schedule in the world (somewhere around 60-80 in SoS), but Jesus they aren't playing in the MAC.
  
  @ NW, @ Michigan, Wisconsin...and then the Big Ten Title Game (most likely MSU).
  
  If Ohio State is 12-0, they ARE in the BCSNC Game.
• Tiernan

  Until the Defense is a proven entity they probably shouldn't even be #2. If the 7 newbies coming in are as good as their hype says they are, they definitely run the table and play in the NCG. Bama has a couple of holes to fill too but on paper they look strong and should be there too come Jan.6.
• Dan Gilbert

  

  OSU is ranked right where they should be at #2.
  
  OSU's schedule is fine. Cal falling off of being a semi productive football team has hurt a bit but the big OOC games will resume going forward.
  
  If OSU runs the table, they will be in the NCG. We would never see a team of OSU's caliber (24-0 at that point) be left out of the biggest game of the year especially with the amount of fans and $$$ that follows them to the game sites.
• Mulva

  

  SportsAndLady;1485602 wrote:They don't play anyone?!
  
  I understand they don't have the most brutal schedule in the world (somewhere around 60-80 in SoS), but Jesus they aren't playing in the MAC.
  
  @ NW, @ Michigan, Wisconsin...and then the Big Ten Title Game (most likely MSU).
  
  If Ohio State is 12-0, they ARE in the BCSNC Game.

  Actually at 12-0 they're in the b1g title game.
• Scarlet_Buckeye

  

  No one should be above 'Bama until 'Bama proves otherwise.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Mulva;1485737 wrote:Actually at 12-0 they're in the b1g title game.

  You knew what I meant...13-0
• vball10set

  Pick6;1485345 wrote:Also, I cant find a single poll that has them preseason #1 lol. And if there is one, its a joke.

  SportsAndLady;1485348 wrote:Didn't mean polls. Meant analysis' personal rankings. I was watching the CBS preseason show earlier and a couple guys had them #1

  http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2013/08/24559/cbs-dennis-dodd-picks-osu-pre-season-no-1
• Classyposter58

  

  Ya know I really like Georgia this season. I don't feel like Alabama will get there actually, they'll be good but I don't expect them to get all the way
• believer

  

  Dan Gilbert;1485610 wrote:If OSU runs the table, they will be in the NCG. We would never see a team of OSU's caliber (24-0 at that point) be left out of the biggest game of the year especially with the amount of fans and $$$ that follows them to the game sites.

  That i$ the bottom-line.
• Me?

  

  I'd love to hear a case where a 13-0 Ohio State team doesn't get into the NCG anyways. Regardless of the money.
• vball10set

  Me?;1486785 wrote:I'd love to hear a case where a 13-0 Ohio State team doesn't get into the NCG anyways. Regardless of the money.

  There isn't one.
• wildcats20

  

  Me?;1486785 wrote:I'd love to hear a case where a 13-0 Ohio State team doesn't get into the NCG anyways. Regardless of the money.

  
  SEC bias. OSU hate.
  
  That's all there is.
• WebFire

  Me?;1486785 wrote:I'd love to hear a case where a 13-0 Ohio State team doesn't get into the NCG anyways. Regardless of the money.

  Other 13-0 teams?
• Me?

  

  WebFire;1486813 wrote:Other 13-0 teams?

  Any of them on a 25 game winning streak?
• Me?

  

  Doubt you could come up with a scenario with other undefeateds that would leave OSU out based on merit alone, not money.
• WebFire

  Me?;1486838 wrote:Any of them on a 25 game winning streak?

  If they are doing it right, that shouldn't matter.
• Me?

  

  Still waiting for you to actually provide me with a legitimate example...
• WebFire

  Me?;1486856 wrote:Still waiting for you to actually provide me with a legitimate example...

  Of what? I can't predict the future.
• Rotinaj

  

  Me?;1486840 wrote:Doubt you could come up with a scenario with other undefeateds that would leave OSU out based on merit alone, not money.

  Oregon goes undefeated blowing out some pretty good teams and OSU goes undefeated winning many close games. There is your "possible" scenario. Im NOT saying its likely but if you don't think there is a single scenario out there then im not sure what to tell you.
• Me?

  

  Alright, so all we've come up with so far is Oregon and Ohio State going undefeated...and somehow Ohio State being left out of the championship game...with apparently no other undefeated team.
  
  Not asking you to predict the future Web, just give me a hypothetical scenario where an undefeated Ohio State team doesn't make the championship game.
• WebFire

  Me?;1486891 wrote:Alright, so all we've come up with so far is Oregon and Ohio State going undefeated...and somehow Ohio State being left out of the championship game...with apparently no other undefeated team.
  
  Not asking you to predict the future Web, just give me a hypothetical scenario where an undefeated Ohio State team doesn't make the championship game.

  What purpose does that serve? We could make hypotheticals all day long.
• Me?

  

  It would serve the purpose of backing up your claim that a scenario does exist. If you can't come up with one, then STFU.
• WebFire

  Me?;1486907 wrote:It would serve the purpose of backing up your claim that a scenario does exist. If you can't come up with one, then STFU.

  That was already done, and you want more. So you can STFU.