2013 Michigan Wolverines

• Trueblue23

  

  I've said it all year… this teams biggest problem, it's only MAJOR flaw is the offensive line. Everything else is a domino effect. Protect him and Gardner is damn near unstoppable. I'm fine with him being back, I think it's good for the program.
• WebFire

  Trueblue23;1546650 wrote:I've said it all year… this teams biggest problem, it's only MAJOR flaw is the offensive line. Everything else is a domino effect. Protect him and Gardner is damn near unstoppable. I'm fine with him being back, I think it's good for the program.

  I was fine with him returning. It was the staff part I was pissed about.
• se-alum

  

  Trueblue23;1546650 wrote:I've said it all year… this teams biggest problem, it's only MAJOR flaw is the offensive line. Everything else is a domino effect. Protect him and Gardner is damn near unstoppable. I'm fine with him being back, I think it's good for the program.

  You don't need an offensive line that is good if you run an offense like they did against OSU. They have plenty of weapons for that screen passing game.
• Midstate01

  

  Gardner made very few tough passes saturday. Though he made some great ones. Most of their game was screens, which was genuis.
• JU-ICE

  If Hoke retains Borges, he has pretty much put his future at Michigan in his hands. If the offense under performs next year and they are not competing for a league title, I think they will all be gone.
• se-alum

  

  Yep, Hoke has to be on the hot seat next season. If they lose 2 games, he should be gone.
• WebFire

  se-alum;1547055 wrote:Yep, Hoke has to be on the hot seat next season. If they lose 2 games, he should be gone.

  11-2, you think he should be fired?
• WebFire

  I'm not convinced there won't be changes. He said he "anticipates" everyone will be back, but also said none of the end of year reviews have been done.
• Trueblue23

  

  If I had to guess…
  
  I think Funk leaves.
  
  Fred Jackson will stay
  
  Borges will stay.
• se-alum

  

  WebFire;1547068 wrote:11-2, you think he should be fired?

  I guess I should say 2 losses outside of the OSU game. There isn't another team on their schedule that has anywhere the amount of talent that UM does.
• WebFire

  Michigan's schedule next year is tougher than 2013. Tough away games.
• se-alum

  

  WebFire;1547214 wrote:Michigan's schedule next year is tougher than 2013. Tough away games.

  Doesn't change the fact that they have more talent than anyone on the schedule, outside of OSU.
• Mohican00

  

  WebFire;1547214 wrote:Michigan's schedule next year is tougher than 2013. Tough away games.

  off topic, but that Michigan 2015 OOC schedule is odd with 4 West-ish coast teams
• WebFire

  This sums up the season well.
  
  http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2013/12/column_michigan_wasnt_just_ave.html#incart_river
  

  Never at any point in 2013 did Michigan look fully prepared to do all the little things necessary to win football games. Never at any point did Michigan appear to be fundamentally sound. Never at any point did the team's locker room leadership take charge of the club and put an end to a miserable 1-5 close to the year.

• centralbucksfan

  WebFire;1558475 wrote:This sums up the season well.
  
  http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2013/12/column_michigan_wasnt_just_ave.html#incart_river

  Sure sounds like a coaching issue to me. As others have said, I think Hoke is back next year. But he will have big time pressure. A 4 or more loss season, and he should be gone. Anything better, and I think he continues.
  But much is of what is mentioned above in that comment. Its not always the losses. Its HOW you lose and WHO you lose to that can determine a coaches fait.
• Classyposter58

  

  IMO both Brandon and Hoke should be fired. Hoke is the equivalent of Schwartz, likable but his teams don't do any of the little things needed to win tough games, frankly they were seconds away from being 4-8.
  
  Brandon on the other hand according to many UM ticket holders I know has ruined the experience at the games by whoring it out for money. Band doesn't play at basketball games so they have more seats, student prices are outrageous for both Football and Hockey, and they killed what was the greatest home ice advantage in hockey by pricing out their fans
• Tigerfan00

  

  UM has road games in 2014 against ND, Northwestern, Mich. St and OSU. Home games against App St, Utah, Minnesota, PSU and Indiana. Going to be some tough games for breaking in a new QB.
  
  They will miss Gallon and Toussaint. Funchess is just a load to try to contain and will be a very good player next year.
• birddog23

  Tigerfan00;1558612 wrote:UM has road games in 2014 against ND, Northwestern, Mich. St and OSU. Home games against App St, Utah, Minnesota, PSU and Indiana. Going to be some tough games for breaking in a new QB.
  
  They will miss Gallon and Toussaint. Funchess is just a load to try to contain and will be a very good player next year.

  Gardner is going pro?
  
  Toussaint wont be missed.
  
  Funchess will be solid.
• Tigerfan00

  

  birddog23;1558616 wrote:Gardner is going pro?
  
  Toussaint wont be missed.
  
  Funchess will be solid.

  Was thinking Gardner is a senior, sorry.
• Trueblue23

  

  FWIW… I've read Brandon really supported Hoke because he feels like he can control Hoke. Can you imagine him trying to sit in on a film session with Harbaugh? Harbaugh would've punched him in the mouth.
• vball10set

  Trueblue23;1558771 wrote:FWIW… I've read Brandon really supported Hoke because he feels like he can control Hoke. Can you imagine him trying to sit in on a film session with Harbaugh? Harbaugh would've punched him in the mouth.

  lol....fwiw, I think they pulled the trigger too early on RichRod. If they allowed him the time to cultivate his own recruits, and if he could've brought in a decent DC, they might have been pretty darn good about now. jmo.
• Mohican00

  

  vball10set;1558801 wrote:lol....fwiw, I think they pulled the trigger too early on RichRod. If they allowed him the time to cultivate his own recruits, and if he could've brought in a decent DC, they might have been pretty darn good about now. jmo.

  if only they had pulled Les
• vball10set

  Mohican00;1558813 wrote:if only they had pulled Les

  That too.
• WebFire

  centralbucksfan;1558505 wrote:Sure sounds like a coaching issue to me. As others have said, I think Hoke is back next year. But he will have big time pressure. A 4 or more loss season, and he should be gone. Anything better, and I think he continues.
  But much is of what is mentioned above in that comment. Its not always the losses. Its HOW you lose and WHO you lose to that can determine a coaches fait.

  Hell yes it's a coaching problem. Now there is a buzz about problems in the locker room, and possible transfers. What a fucking mess, again.
• WebFire

  Classyposter58;1558524 wrote:IMO both Brandon and Hoke should be fired. Hoke is the equivalent of Schwartz, likable but his teams don't do any of the little things needed to win tough games, frankly they were seconds away from being 4-8.
  
  Brandon on the other hand according to many UM ticket holders I know has ruined the experience at the games by whoring it out for money. Band doesn't play at basketball games so they have more seats, student prices are outrageous for both Football and Hockey, and they killed what was the greatest home ice advantage in hockey by pricing out their fans

  I used to be a Brandon fan (as many UM fans were), and now not so much (as many UM fans no longer are). There are lots of rumblings from fans about not renewing season tickets because of the increased price and the shitty product being given, plus factoring in a terrible home schedule next year.
  
  The guy is a marketing machine, and seems to only care about money and the "brand". Go fuck yourself.