Coach Tressel attending 2002 National Championship reunion at Michigan game

• sleeper

  

  Benny The Jet;1324836 wrote:I usually agree with what you have to say, but I hate when people use that saying "any publicity is good publicity" because it's not true. You think Penn State really wanted the publicity they got for Sandusky? So was it good for them and the university?

  Hmm, last time I checked Penn State is a leading university not just in the US but in the world. I think they will be fine.
• Benny The Jet

  

  sleeper;1324846 wrote:Hmm, last time I checked Penn State is a leading university not just in the US but in the world. I think they will be fine.

  I'm not disagreeing with the fact that they'll be ok. But was that publicity they got good for them?
• sleeper

  

  Benny The Jet;1324896 wrote:I'm not disagreeing with the fact that they'll be ok. But was that plublicity they got good for them?

  Yes. You see bad publicity gives everyone a chance to say "Wow, look at how Penn State handled the situation and now are an advocate against child abuse". Now you may say "Well other schools most certainly are against child abuse" and I agree. But no other school is the flagship for preventing child abuse than Penn State.
• Benny The Jet

  

  sleeper;1324898 wrote:Yes. You see bad publicity gives everyone a chance to say "Wow, look at how Penn State handled the situation and now are an advocate against child abuse". Now you may say "Well other schools most certainly are against child abuse" and I agree. But no other school is the flagship for preventing child abuse than Penn State.

  Fair enough. Interesting way to look at, but I guess I can see where you're coming from.
• Tiernan

  sleeper;1324898 wrote:Yes. You see bad publicity gives everyone a chance to say "Wow, look at how Penn State handled the situation and now are an advocate against child abuse". Now you may say "Well other schools most certainly are against child abuse" and I agree. But no other school is the flagship for preventing child abuse than Penn State.

  dumb as hell way to look at it. The kids on that football team are getting screwed worse then the OSU team is. Collateral damage is what the players are for both programs and its a damn shame and wrong on so many levels.
• wkfan

  LJ;1324812 wrote:There are players still on the team who contributed to the failure to monitor

  Who?
• LJ

  

  wkfan;1324945 wrote:Who?

  
  Jordan hall, Pitt brown, Travis Howard
• sleeper

  

  Tiernan;1324931 wrote:dumb as hell way to look at it. The kids on that football team are getting screwed worse then the OSU team is. Collateral damage is what the players are for both programs and its a damn shame and wrong on so many levels.

  Oh yeah they are so screwed. They get a free education at one of the premier academic universities on the planet. So screwed. :rolleyes:
• Tiernan

  sleeper;1324970 wrote:Oh yeah they are so screwed. They get a free education at one of the premier academic universities on the planet. So screwed. :rolleyes:

  Most of them were offered other scholarships at other "premier academic universities" too which they could have attended. But a pathological liar and senile pedophilia apologizer came into their living rooms and promised them certain expectations (if) they came to their university. The liar got hired by another university so he could continue lying to more young people and the apologizer too the easy way out and died.
• sleeper

  

  Tiernan;1324991 wrote:Most of them were offered other scholarships at other "premier academic universities" too which they could have attended. But a pathological liar and senile pedophilia apologizer came into their living rooms and promised them certain expectations (if) they came to their university. The liar got hired by another university so he could continue lying to more young people and the apologizer too the easy way out and died.

  It was their choice to stay though. I'd much rather be at Penn State than any non-B1G institution.
• wkfan

  LJ;1324960 wrote:Jordan hall, Pitt brown, Travis Howard

  Interesting.....not one of them was implicated or punished. How did they contribute to the 'failure to monitor' charge on Tressell adn the athletic department?
• LJ

  

  wkfan;1325102 wrote:Interesting.....not one of them was implicated or punished. How did they contribute to the 'failure to monitor' charge on Tressell adn the athletic department?

  
  Uh yes they were. They were suspended games last year and their indiscretions were directly mentioned as the reason for failure to monitor. Do your research.
• wkfan

  LJ;1325107 wrote:Uh yes they were. They were suspended games last year and their indiscretions were directly mentioned as the reason for failure to monitor. Do your research.

  You are correct...I was focusing on the Tat 5. However, these indescretions came to light after Tressel was already gone. While they may have contributed, Tressel's actions alone would have caused the bowl ban that should have taken place last year. With just these 'crimes', there is no bowl ban.
• LJ

  

  wkfan;1325129 wrote:You are correct...I was focusing on the Tat 5. However, these indescretions came to light after Tressel was already gone. While they may have contributed, Tressel's actions alone would have caused the bowl ban that should have taken place last year. With just these 'crimes', there is no bowl ban.

  Actually, the failure to monitor is what led to the bowl ban. If you read the report, the Failure to Monitor charge is solely off of the DiGeronimo stuff. The failure to monitor came with the repeat offender status, which led to the bowl ban. The repeat offender status is because of the basketball case and Troy Smith taking cash.
• ou1980

  Final Verdict....A standing ovation, sellout crowd roars, and he is hoisted onto the shoulders of his players and carried off the field.
• georgemc80

  ou1980;1327693 wrote:Final Verdict....A standing ovation, sellout crowd roars, and he is hoisted onto the shoulders of his players and carried off the field.

  
  
  As it should be. Shame on those who don't think that was necessary.
• ou1980

  georgemc80;1327995 wrote:As it should be. Shame on those who don't think that was necessary.

  +1
• jordo212000

  

  I continue to be torn on the Tress thing.
  
  Part of me was very uncomfortable with him being celebrated and hoisted on shoulders.
  
  But then he also got us a national title and the first one since 1968, so that definitely means something.
• vball10set

  ou1980;1327693 wrote:Final Verdict....A standing ovation, sellout crowd roars, and he is hoisted onto the shoulders of his players and carried off the field.

  Reps
  
  /thread
• KR1245

  

  jordo212000;1328006 wrote:I continue to be torn on the Tress thing.
  
  Part of me was very uncomfortable with him being celebrated and hoisted on shoulders.
  
  But then he also got us a national title and the first one since 1968, so that definitely means something.

  f*ck it
  
  Tressel made a mistake and he's paying for it. The Buckeyes have their guy on the sideline and just finished the season 12-0. It's time to focus on the very bright future, this program is in good hands
• se-alum

  

  Definitely a great moment!
• Tiger2003

  

  Any video of it?
• ou1980

  [video][/video]
• vball10set

  
  
  
  'nuff said
• HitsRus

  

  Final Verdict....A standing ovation, sellout crowd roars, and he is hoisted onto the shoulders of his players and carried off the field.

  
  ...and that is the way it should be. Tressel made a mistake and he paid for it. Anybody who is 'torn' only needs to look at their own life and see if there isn't a day or an action you would like to have a 'do over' on. He was a great mentor to many young men and a great representative for the University. If you are mad about the 'damage' he caused to the University and that we can't go to bowl game this year...then you should direct that anger toward the NCAA whose arbitrary, inconsistent enforcement of it's 400+ page rule book made this possible. It is not , and hasn't been for a long time, a benevolent institution that represents and advocates for student athletes.