Penn State likely suing NCAA

• Big Gain

  HitsRus;1246294 wrote:^^^but that is exactly what is/and has happened in the vigilante type atmosphere surrounding this.
  Big Gain stated earlier in the thread "Penn State needs to be brought to its knees"......not 'the wrongdoers need to be brought to their knees'. Somehow, some think there is justice in punishing the whole community, and they are willing to allow the NCAA to overstep its' authority to accomplish that end. That it appears to be nearly extortion in the "consent decree" handed to the PSU president, doesn't bother them either.
  to BIG Gain:
  
  
  
  As you wish.
  They covered up because they were bad men concealing a crime for which they could be thrown in jail for. Others may have just been friends who looked the other way to cover for a friend in what they thought were isolated incidents or didn't realize the extent of what was going on. Others might have thought he was falsely accused and not capable of doing what was alleged. Who knows what was going on in the minds of those responsible. It is all speculation. Just as it is speculation to say PSU got some sort of competitive advantage on the field, and to quantify it by handing out $60 million in fine and years of sanctions.
  
  
  Good news for those that side with the extortionists...The PSU Board of trustees has agreed to pay the ransom rather than have their football program killed.

  WRONG....they covered up crimes OF ONE INDIVIDUAL, who happened to be the #2 coach on the football team. If he had been a professor, a student, janitor, a low level booster, there would not have been a cover up. THE ONE AND ONLY reason there was a THIRTEEN YEAR cover up was to protect the football team, the brand name, WE ARE PENN STATE. The $60 million is pocket change for Penn State.
• Big Gain

  HitsRus;1246391 wrote:I think that is in an inaccurate way of portraying the feelings of the President and the trustees....it appears that they were coerced into accepting the sanctions lest they lose the football program entirely.

  Just like an out of court negotiated settlement of a crime. Not a single day spent in court.
  
  The vast majority of federal crimes never see the inside of a court room. I spent several months as a perspective juror seeing case after case after case settled out of court.
  
  I was once sued for $500,000. We settled out of court for a very small percentage of that figure.
• sleeper

  

  WebFire;1246761 wrote:Ah ok. Wanna bet an iPad on it?

  No further words needed. Consider it done.
• Big Gain

  HitsRus;1246469 wrote:^^^^Maybe you should read their comments.

  The comments of a small minority. Undoubtedly the trustees that Paterno had an ongoing say of who would be voted onto the board by the trustees.
• Big Gain

  HitsRus;1246327 wrote:I didn't say that. He was asking me why they covered it up. I was speculating on the possible reasons.

  One hell of a lousy speculator, try using a modicum of logic. OBVIOUSLY there was only ONE reason for the thirteen year cover up. PENN STATE FOOTBALL!!! THE reason the NCAA could/should become involved.
• HitsRus

  

  Right. So it goes beyond a direct improper benefit. Which is what you (or sleeper, I don't remember which) was using as an argument.

  Tressel violated a rule regarding reporting of incidents which is in the NCAA rulebook. The charges against PSU were not.... according to the legal opinion that I cited earlier in the thread.
• HitsRus

  

  Big Gain;1246825 wrote:Just like an out of court negotiated settlement of a crime. Not a single day spent in court.
  
  The vast majority of federal crimes never see the inside of a court room. I spent several months as a perspective juror seeing case after case after case settled out of court.
  
  I was once sued for $500,000. We settled out of court for a very small percentage of that figure.

  To use your own phraseology ... WRONG!....This was not a negotiated settlement, this was an delivered ultimatum that more closely resembles extortion.
• Big Gain

  HitsRus;1246918 wrote:To use your own phraseology ... WRONG!....This was not a negotiated settlement, this was an delivered ultimatum that more closely resembles extortion.

  Negotiated by 119 NCAA University Presidents, many wanting a far severe penalty. Several choices were delivered to President of the 120th NCAA school. He chose the lesser penalty.
• HitsRus

  

  really? 119 university presidents?.....I don't think PSU's president was offered a trial by a 'jury of his peers'.LOL
• isadore

  jay, the university was happy to get off so easy after the coverup carried out by the president of the university, vice president of the university, the athletic director of the university, and the legend.
• Big Gain

  Lets see, do you get a trial if you break a family rule? A trial for breaking a rule at summer camp? A trial for breaking a high school rule? A trial for breaking a high school sports team rule? A trial for breaking a rule in the fraternal organization you belong to? A trial for breaking a college professor's rule? A trial for breaking a team rule of your college sports team? A trial for breaking a rule where you work? A trial for breaking a PGA rule in a tournament? A trial for breaking an NFL rule? A TRIAL FOR BREAKING NCAA RULES???
  
  None of those have anything to do with breaking a local, state or federal LAW.
  
  In the above cases you MIGHT get a trial if you file a lawsuit.
  
  Such a confused little girl.