Ohio State vs. Kansas (Saturday, 8:49PM)

• Ironman92

  

  Big Gain;1133522 wrote:Yet another hick with a 6th grade IQ

  
  Is your IQ any different in 6th grade opposed to adult age?
• zach24oz

  Inconsistent officiating in the second half...not blaming the loss on the refs but it did seem they were a little more whistle happy when Robinson got the ball for KU than whenever an OSU player took it inside...just like how Buford didnt get fouled shooting from the block or Thomas getting punched in the face wasnt a foul. OSU blew it themselves too by playing terrible offense in the 2nd half. Looked like they had no clue what to do and were forcing way too many 3's.
• Early Cuyler

  

  Ty Webb;1133469 wrote:Got a big ass cut on my leg at work....
  
  I didn't clean or bandage it the right way and I got a massive infection which got into my blood and almost made its way to my heart.
  
  That good enough for you you piece of shit

  Serious shopping cart accident at work???
• SportsAndLady

  

  NilesPacMan;1133333 wrote:Smart foul, but come on Self, have some decency and let the game play out. I HATE when teams foul like that; it cheapens the victory.

  Lol this is retarded
  

  Tiger2003;1133359 wrote:Fuck you S&L.

  haha
  

  wes_mantooth;1133398 wrote:exactly. You simply cannot lose to a less talented team. And to come out flat, not looking to run Buford off some screens in the beginning of that second half...is just poor coaching. Self made the adjustments, Matta did not.

  I don't think KU is less talented...Robinson is the #2 overall pick, Taylor is a first rounder, after next year Withey and Johnson will be 1st rounders. Kevin Young is gonna be a stud.
  
  OSU probably has the more talented college roster, if that makes sense? Kansas has more NBA prospects though.

  robj55;1133448 wrote:I hope Sully comes back, I really think he has been playing hurt the second half of the year. I know he has never been an explosive athlete but he has really struggled to elevate most of this year. I have never seen him get his shot blocked so much as I did the last few months, he is very crafty in getting his looks. I hope he comes back in even better shape with something to prove next year. If Thomas and him come back we are looking at another final 4 possibility.

  Come on..lol
  
  He's not hurt, he's just not a dominant player. Still really good though.
  

  robj55;1133494 wrote:I noticed that dirty play by Robinson, smh

  Wah
  

  wes_mantooth;1133507 wrote:I see it as a bad matchup...Kansas wants to run, that is a recipe for disaster with Kentucky

  Kansas won't try and run w/ Kansas. Bill Self isn't dumb, he'll slow it down...this team has the ability to run (UNC) or slow it down (OSU). They're incredible at changing their style of play overnight for matchups.
• SportsAndLady

  

  This was a fun one to watch for me, but tonight kind of sucked. I am on antiobiotics so I wasn't even able to drink for this. Weird to watch weekend basketball sober, let alone Final Four when your team is in it.
  
  Was a fun game..shouldn't be so hard on the Bucks, Final Fours don't come by too often.
  
  On to Kentucky!!
• Ironman92

  

  SportsAndLady;1133532 wrote:Lol this is retarded
  
  
  
  haha
  
  
  
  I don't think KU is less talented...Robinson is the #2 overall pick, Taylor is a first rounder, after next year Withey and Johnson will be 1st rounders. Kevin Young is gonna be a stud.
  
  OSU probably has the more talented college roster, if that makes sense? Kansas has more NBA prospects though.
  
  
  Come on..lol
  
  He's not hurt, he's just not a dominant player. Still really good though.
  
  
  
  Wah
  
  
  
  Kansas won't try and run w/ Kansas. Bill Self isn't dumb, he'll slow it down...this team has the ability to run (UNC) or slow it down (OSU). They're incredible at changing their style of play overnight for matchups.

  
  Need help looking for an apartment in Topeka?
• se-alum

  

  Not saying Matta is on the hot seat, but he was terribly outcoached by Self. Giving up a 13pt lead in the 2nd half of a National Semifinal is unacceptable.
• GoJPM!

  

  The last two points of the second half were a momentum changer. Kansas got it and OSU lost it and, quite frankly, never got it back. OSU should have had at least an eleven point lead going into the locker room but they didn't. I think that deflated them some knowing they had only a single digit lead at the half. They looked flat coming out and played like garbage almost the entire second half. Kansas showed a lot more swagger than OSU and looked like they wanted it more.
• Ironman92

  

  se-alum;1133536 wrote:Not saying Matta is on the hot seat, but he was terribly outcoached by Self. Giving up a 13pt lead in the 2nd half of a National Semifinal is unacceptable.

  
  Not as bad as former OSU coach Gary Williams.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Ironman92;1133534 wrote:Need help looking for an apartment in Topeka?

  Not really
• Early Cuyler

  

  se-alum;1133536 wrote:Not saying Matta is on the hot seat, but he was terribly outcoached by Self. Giving up a 13pt lead in the 2nd half of a National Semifinal is unacceptable.

  OK, even having the thought of Matta on the hot seat running through your head is simply asinine.
• Sonofanump

  I really had no idea that the foul line is a plane on foul shots. I thought it was when your foot touched the ground beyond the line. Learnt something new today.
• mallymal614

  se-alum;1133536 wrote:Not saying Matta is on the hot seat, but he was terribly outcoached by Self. Giving up a 13pt lead in the 2nd half of a National Semifinal is unacceptable.

  I glad we got him because we went from a Wisconsin type program where we would be 'good' and compete for Big Ten titles to almost a National power. I just think he plays way too slow with his players. Can you imagine what Izzo fast paste offense could do with the talents of an Ohio State? Only 2 fast break points tonight with the athletes we got?
• superman

  DeyDurkie5;1133460 wrote:Explain how you "almost died"?

  He was trying to lick himself and fell off his couch. Almost broke his neck.
• killer_ewok

  

  Sullinger shot his worst FG pct. of the season tonight.
• jhay78

  

  Sonofanump;1133543 wrote:I really had no idea that the foul line is a plane on foul shots. I thought it was when your foot touched the ground beyond the line. Learnt something new today.

  Doesn't the shooter's hand cross the "plane" almost every time?
• Early Cuyler

  

  killer_ewok;1133549 wrote:Sullinger shot his worst FG pct. of the season tonight.

  yeah. taking a bunch of fade-away jumpers as a big man that doesn't possess a sweet stroke will probably contribute to that.
• Midstate01

  

  We choked period. Flat out choked
• killer_ewok

  

  Early Cuyler;1133551 wrote:yeah. taking a bunch of fade-away jumpers as a big man that doesn't possess a sweet stroke will probably contribute to that.

  
  Agreed.
• Al Bundy

  se-alum;1133536 wrote:Not saying Matta is on the hot seat, but he was terribly outcoached by Self. Giving up a 13pt lead in the 2nd half of a National Semifinal is unacceptable.

  Matta's strength is his recruiting, not his game coaching. He has brought in players that have put OSU in the hunt as national contenders a few times.
• Azubuike24

  

  Some takes. Haven't read this thread so I apologize if this is a repeat.
  
  Aaron Craft had a BAD game. He hit a few shots, but in the 2nd half he hurt OSU. For the 8-minute stretch that Thomas was out, Craft took 2 shots. One of them he made, a 3-pointer in the corner. He really was unable to get the Bucks into any rhythm. First possession with Thomas back on the floor, what does Craft do? Instead of finding either Thomas or Buford, he tries to go from the top of the key and drive it all the way in. Why the aggression at that time, especially with Withey, Young AND Robinson all in the game at the time?
  
  Deshaun Thomas is one of those guys you just live with. He jacked up TWO three-pointers in the 2nd to last possession, neither were balanced, neither had a chance, and OSU only needed a 3 to tie and they had plenty of time to settle for a quality shot. While some will blame his foul trouble, he was not hitting at all after the first 12 minutes or so, meaning there was no reason to believe that even if he played many of the minutes he sat, they would have had anything other than a black hole on offense.
  
  For as much as I admire his game, William Buford lacks the "it" factor. There is a reason he's a 4th year player. He's got good athleticism, not great. He's a great shooter off the dribble and a good shooter on the catch, but he's not able to get to the rim enough. What I never understand watching him is why doesn't he be more aggressive, especially with Thomas out? I said it at the 18-minute mark when Thomas got his 3rd foul that Buford needs to take 10+ shots in this half if OSU wants to win. I think he took 5 after that point.
  
  I thought Sullinger was extremely lazy in fighting for position inside. The reason he stunk was because he either settled for outside shots or he simply caught the ball too far out. Again, he lost trunk and lost his effectiveness. That's likely the down fall of OSU's season, and unfortunately for Jared, his stock is so low right now that he may find himself out of the lottery...so the body transformation didn't help his NBA stock. Wouldn't be surprised if Thomas bolts and Sully returns to OSU...
• Classyposter58

  

  What pissed me off so much about the game was how much CBS was on Kansas today. I mean wtf. All they showed were closeups of Bill Self, the Kansas students and band, and then highlights and stats of the Jayhawks. I mean it was unreal how little comparatively they mentioned OSU
• SportsAndLady

  

  Classyposter58;1133585 wrote:What pissed me off so much about the game was how much CBS was on Kansas today. I mean wtf. All they showed were closeups of Bill Self, the Kansas students and band, and then highlights and stats of the Jayhawks. I mean it was unreal how little comparatively they mentioned OSU

  Uhh this is retarded.
  
  Cbs wants osu to win more than Kansas
• Laley23

  

  Sonofanump;1133543 wrote:I really had no idea that the foul line is a plane on foul shots. I thought it was when your foot touched the ground beyond the line. Learnt something new today.

  They actually had to institute that rule cause guys were taking a step up and jumping toward the basket on fts back in the day. It's not to be called if the natural shooting motion takes your chest slightly forward however. But no question craft violated the rule.
• Classyposter58

  

  SportsAndLady;1133591 wrote:Uhh this is retarded.
  
  Cbs wants osu to win more than Kansas

  That's what I thought but man they showed very little of OSU. Watch the replay and you'll notice. Heck it was hard not to IMO