Ohio State @ Indiana 12/31/11 6 PM

• Laley23

  

  Prescott;1039424 wrote:No, it doesn't excuse Craft for turning the ball over. IMO, Hulls would have been on Craft if Buford had not gone to the bench, thus the turnovers would have never happened.A not so obvious impact the officials had on this game.

  Yeah, I mean I agree with that. But you can go on about that in many games. My point was, 1st half IU had the advantage the last 2 minutes and took advantage. 2nd half OSU had the advantage and didnt...in fact IU did more with less.
• Prescott

  But you can go on about that in many games.

  There aren't many games in which William Buford has found himself in foul trouble(4 fouls with 16 minutes left in the game), primarily because defense is not his point of focus on a basketball court.There are also not many games that Buford, Sullinger, and Thomas would play a combined total of 29 1st half minutes.
• vball10set

  Bottom line is that none of the OSU players played particularly well, and yet they still had a chance to win. Yes, the officiating was poor, but as someone mentioned earlier, they need to learn to overcome it and play above it. I need to see us win on the road, against a quality opponent, before I'm convinced that this is an elite team.
• Prescott

  they need to learn to overcome it and play above it.

  And maybe they will. That doesn't change the impact that the poor officiating had on this game.
  

  before I'm convinced that this is an elite team.

  There are no elite teams. Quality road victories are not the the norm.Which team has the best road win this year??
• vball10set

  Prescott;1039542 wrote: There are no elite teams. Quality road victories are not the the norm.Which team has the best road win this year??

  I get that, so let me rephrase...before I'm convinced that they are a Final Four, or even an Elite Eight team.
• Laley23

  

  Prescott;1039533 wrote:There aren't many games in which William Buford has found himself in foul trouble(4 fouls with 16 minutes left in the game), primarily because defense is not his point of focus on a basketball court.There are also not many games that Buford, Sullinger, and Thomas would play a combined total of 29 1st half minutes.

  No, but you can go on about things LIKE that in any game. Not the exact situation. But for instance, there was a terrible call in the Indiana - Evansville game. Should have been Indiana ball, but wasnt. Evansville player was fouled on the inbound....twice and then they ended up with a lay-up. It was a bad call, but Indiana has to be able to not commit to fouls on inbound passes and not give up a lay-up after the poor officiating.
• Laley23

  

  Prescott;1039533 wrote:There aren't many games in which William Buford has found himself in foul trouble(4 fouls with 16 minutes left in the game), primarily because defense is not his point of focus on a basketball court.There are also not many games that Buford, Sullinger, and Thomas would play a combined total of 29 1st half minutes.

  No, but you can go on about things LIKE that in any game. Not the exact situation. But for instance, there was a terrible call in the Indiana - Evansville game. Should have been Indiana ball, but wasnt. Evansville player was fouled on the inbound....twice (once Zeller and once Watford) Both players come out, and then they ended up with a lay-up because of poor defending by Pritchard and Elston. It was a bad call, but Indiana has to be able to not commit to fouls on inbound passes and not give up a lay-up after the poor officiating.
• Prescott

  before I'm convinced that they are a Final Four, or even an Elite Eight team.

  Are you convinced that some team out there is a lock for the elite 8 or Final Four?
  

  But for instance, there was a terrible call in the Indiana - Evansville game.

  I will concede your point when it is based on 1 terrible call. I believe there multiple horrendous calls in the 1st half of the OSU-vs-Indiana game.
• Laley23

  

  Prescott;1040052 wrote:
  I will concede your point when it is based on 1 terrible call. I believe there multiple horrendous calls in the 1st half of the OSU-vs-Indiana game.

  Ok, but Buford only had 1 bad call against him. The whole point you made was HE was on the bench. Oladipo isnt guarding Thomas or Sully, so that doesnt matter. It only matters than Craft was on the floor and Oladipo on him instead of Buford. One call.
• Prescott

  From Mark Titus:Instead of bitching about 50/50 calls that went against the Buckeyes or complaining about no-calls that didn't affect the game,[SUP]5[/SUP] I'll just list two calls that had a huge impact on the game and were inexcusably horrendous. There were other terrible calls — such as Jared Sullinger's third foul and all of Will Buford's fouls away from the ball — but these were the two that no sane Indiana fan can dispute, and these were the two that made me wonder what exactly it takes to be a college basketball referee........http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7428690/titus-top-12-ncaa-power-rankings
• thavoice

  Titus is a fucktard
• Laley23

  

  Prescott;1040929 wrote:From Mark Titus:Instead of bitching about 50/50 calls that went against the Buckeyes or complaining about no-calls that didn't affect the game,[SUP]5[/SUP] I'll just list two calls that had a huge impact on the game and were inexcusably horrendous. There were other terrible calls — such as Jared Sullinger's third foul and all of Will Buford's fouls away from the ball — but these were the two that no sane Indiana fan can dispute, and these were the two that made me wonder what exactly it takes to be a college basketball referee........http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7428690/titus-top-12-ncaa-power-rankings

  Still?
  
  The game is over. It was horrendously officiated. IU benefited more than OSU, everyone agrees.
• Prescott

  Sorry cc, even the IU fans admit the refs were unbekievably bad.
• Mulva

  

  ccrunner609;1052793 wrote:link?

  http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?31357-Ohio-State-Indiana-12-31-11-6-PM&p=1041010&viewfull=1#post1041010
  
  That was tough to find.
• LJ

  

  ccrunner609;1052807 wrote:THat doesnt count. Link to a national paper or an Indiana generated source.
  
  Just get over it, the refs had nothing to do with it.

  
  Your opinion is worthless.
• Mulva

  

  ccrunner609;1052807 wrote:THat doesnt count.

  Oh OK. My bad.
• LJ

  

  ccrunner609;1052839 wrote:and so is whining about the refs........your taught as a JH player that you dont blame the refs.

  
  Except when the refs actually have an effect on the outcome
• LJ

  

  ccrunner609;1052895 wrote:more crying....its pathetic. I guess they screwed them at Illinois also?

  
  50>50.
  
  Youre a joke. No need to respond to you any further
• Prescott

  I guess they screwed them at Illinois also?

  No, the refs let the players decide the game and Brandon Paul decided it.
  
  On Sunday the refs let the players decide the game and the Buckeyes decided it.
  
  Pretty simple stuff.
• Big Gain

  Can you fathom how much you embarrass yourself??? You talk like an uneducated hick. What you add is usually inane or asinine.
• Big Gain

  Can you fathom how much you embarrass yourself??? You talk like an uneducated hick. What you bring is usually inane and innocuous.
• robj55

  

  ccrunner609;1052895 wrote:more crying....its pathetic. I guess they screwed them at Illinois also?

  Weren't you crying about the officiating during the entire Duke and OSU game?
• Big Gain

  ccrunner609;1052839 wrote:and so is whining about the refs........your taught as a JH player that you dont blame the refs.

  Can you fathom how much you embarrass yourself??? You talk/type like an uneducated hick in ALL of your posts. What you bring, for the most part, is inane and innocuous.
• LJ

  

  ccrunner609;1054929 wrote:And this is a minor league message board....who gives a shit how you type shit. I dont care to correct typos and shit. I could care less about run on sentences and puncuation.
  
  When I take grad classes and type up material for work I dont sound or look like a hick.
  
  As for the refs in the Duke game.......OSU and especially Sully benefitted from calls.

  
  You fucking hypocrite.
  
  GTFO
• FatHobbit

  

  ccrunner609;1052839 wrote:your taught as a JH player that you dont blame the refs.

  ccrunner609;1054929 wrote:As for the refs in the Duke game.......OSU and especially Sully benefitted from calls.

  Lol, didn't they teach you in jr high not to blame the refs? (you can't have it both ways)