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Gator Bowl - Florida def. Ohio State, 24-17

  • jordo212000
    centralbucksfan;1035489 wrote:Screw Boom and Posey. They were part of what got OSU where they are. And today...both fumbled. You get what you get from selfishness. I said similar about Troy Smith. You will never win championships/bowl games with players like that.

    Amen
  • jordo212000
    ytownfootball;1035495 wrote:He sure was kicking ass today though now wasn't he? Guess you weren't watching TODAY.

    I saw him putting the ball on the ground
  • ytownfootball
    And I don't like what they did as players and what resulted, but that's not the point, the point is Bollman shouldn't have been running Hyde or Hall given the production out of Herron.
  • jordo212000
    Glassy;1035497 wrote:Did they? Too bad the program and players to come that werent involved will also serve the punishment for what they did.

    Herron also was honored by his teammates. Obviously the players still have no idea about the gravity of the program's actions
  • LJ
    Glassy;1035497 wrote:Did they? Too bad the program and players to come that werent involved will also serve the punishment for what they did.
    That bowl ban would be the Athletic Department's fault, Failure to Monitor is on the dept, not on the players.
  • centralbucksfan
    LJ;1035494 wrote:they served their punishment.
    And you thnk it was sufficient enough for what OSU and the rest of the program has to suffer for next year and beyond? I don't. For Fickell to start them right when they came back, was bad enough. Sent a terrible message to the rest of the team. Anyway, thats all said and done and the results of their transgressions were a 6-7 season.
  • ytownfootball
    jordo212000;1035501 wrote:I saw him putting the ball on the ground
    It shouldn't have been called a fumble but again, not the point
  • jordo212000
    ytownfootball;1035503 wrote:And I don't like what they did as players and what resulted, but that's not the point, the point is Bollman shouldn't have been running Hyde or Hall given the production out of Herron.

    Just like Herron shouldn't have been getting more burn once he returned during the season. Others were more productive with the ball in their hands and didn't repeatedly break NCAA rules
  • LJ
    centralbucksfan;1035507 wrote:And you thnk it was sufficient enough for what OSU and the rest of the program has to suffer for next year and beyond? I don't. For Fickell to start them right when they came back, was bad enough. Sent a terrible message to the rest of the team. Anyway, thats all said and done and the results of their transgressions were a 6-7 season.
    I believe their punishments were sufficient. They were not the ones who lied to the NCAA or couldn't monitor their program.
  • centralbucksfan
    LJ;1035506 wrote:That bowl ban would be the Athletic Department's fault, Failure to Monitor is on the dept, not on the players.
    Bullshit. Its impossible to follow 100 players around 24/7. These guys were seniors to be. OSU got hammered last year, and they still went this past summer and took money for no work. Stop with the excuses. You cannot monitor players. The AD made mistakes. But the players ultimately made the decisions.
  • centralbucksfan
    LJ;1035512 wrote:I believe their punishments were sufficient. They were not the ones who lied to the NCAA or couldn't monitor their program.
    Punishments you can have your opinion on. To put the blame on OSU is ridiculous. Excuses. Especially after them taking money for nothing while the NCAA was sniffing around!
  • LJ
    centralbucksfan;1035513 wrote:Bullshit. Its impossible to follow 100 players around 24/7. These guys were seniors to be. OSU got hammered last year, and they still went this past summer and took money for no work. Stop with the excuses. You cannot monitor players. The AD made mistakes. But the players ultimately made the decisions.
    Uh, you have to monitor the player's jobs and income, especially when they work for a booster. Don't give me that lame ass "it's the compliance dept's job to monitor these kids and their interactions with boosters, but they can't monitor all these kids!!!"
  • ytownfootball
    jordo212000;1035510 wrote:Just like Herron shouldn't have been getting more burn once he returned during the season. Others were more productive with the ball in their hands and didn't repeatedly break NCAA rules
    smh, nevermind, he was in the game and playing better than the others. Of course you'll continue to be "that guy" so go ahead.
  • jordo212000
    ytownfootball;1035509 wrote:It shouldn't have been called a fumble but again, not the point

    He put the ball on the ground. Don't give a bad ref a chance to be bad
  • Glassy
    LJ;1035512 wrote:I believe their punishments were sufficient. They were not the ones who lied to the NCAA or couldn't monitor their program.
    Without their actions, nobody was put in that position in the first place.
  • LJ
    centralbucksfan;1035518 wrote:Punishments you can have your opinion on. To put the blame on OSU is ridiculous. Excuses. Especially after them taking money for nothing while the NCAA was sniffing around!
    LOL

    You are the one who is putting blame for the compliance dept's fuck up and Tressel's fuck up on Boom and Posey. They served their punishment and if the school had done their job, nothing else would have come of it. Plain and simple.
  • LJ
    Glassy;1035525 wrote:Without their actions, nobody was put in that position in the first place.
    Those decisions were made on their own.
  • jordo212000
    centralbucksfan;1035518 wrote:Punishments you can have your opinion on. To put the blame on OSU is ridiculous. Excuses. Especially after them taking money for nothing while the NCAA was sniffing around!

    They had to feed their families... By getting tattoos
  • WebFire
    LJ;1035494 wrote:they served their punishment.
    So did the rest of the team.
  • Glassy
    centralbucksfan;1035518 wrote:Punishments you can have your opinion on. To put the blame on OSU is ridiculous. Excuses. Especially after them taking money for nothing while the NCAA was sniffing around!
    Ding ding ding! Well put.

    They threw gas on the fire and laughed about it. Meanwhile Luke and the team saluted them. Unreal.
  • Glassy
    jordo212000;1035532 wrote:They had to feed their families... By getting tattoos
    Bullsh!t. They get everything paid for as it is.
  • centralbucksfan
    LJ;1035526 wrote:LOL

    You are the one who is putting blame for the compliance dept's **** up and Tressel's **** up on Boom and Posey. They served their punishment and if the school had done their job, nothing else would have come of it. Plain and simple.

    U must be young. Pointing the finger at others when the ultimate responsibility lies within the individuals who CHOSE to do what they did. Period.
  • LJ
    Glassy;1035534 wrote:
    They threw gas on the fire and laughed about it.
    You have no idea how these guys reacted to their actions in the locker room
  • LJ
    centralbucksfan;1035538 wrote:U must be young. Pointing the finger at others when the ultimate responsibility lies within the individuals who CHOSE to do what they did. Period.
    So you are the one pointing the finger at the players for Tressel's and the compliance department's actions. Good job for being a hypocrite.
  • jordo212000
    WebFire;1035533 wrote:So did the rest of the team.

    They served their 'punishment' and will be moving on to greener pastures. The underclassmen, university, fans, and conference are not so lucky