Will ND "compete for National Championships" with kelly?

• dtdtim

  sjmvsfscs08 wrote: You mean like a 41-14 loss to Florida or a 38-24 loss to LSU in a BCS National Championship Game?

  That would be a good shot had Notre Dame ever won a BCS Bowl, let alone BCS national title. And had not lost to the school that lost big to both Florida & LSU in a BCS game.
  
  I think Kelly will get it turned around. I do not think he will have as easy of a time doing it at Notre Dame as he did at Cincinnati or Directional Michigan. He was able to turn those 2 into respectable programs without the glare of the media and fans that think they should be 12-0 every year down his back. He's facing a different animal at Notre Dame than at Cincy or CMU. If he is given the right amount of time and doesn't fold under the pressure he will have ND back on track to being good again.
• sherm03

  

  I don't know why I even put myself through reading this shit from Sleeper, CC, and NCF. It's like every time I see one of their names, I think to myself "maybe this is the post where they stop being a big douche bag homo and actually post something intelligent." Then I read their shitty post filled with dumb logic and skewed facts and then I get bummed out.
  
  Why do I put myself through it? Why do I continue to read the shit that spews from their retarded minds? You guys clearly hate Notre Dame...and that's cool. Why don't you get a little support group together and just start a big circle jerk with each other thinking about how funny you all think you are...because let's face it, nobody else here likes you and if you disappeared tomorrow...we wouldn't give a flying fuck.
  
  F.O.A.D.!! Douchers.
• Cmhs74

  I think Kelly will improve the ND team but it's going to take time. Making a BCS game in the first 5 years, I doubt it but you never know. With the players they are losing this year to graduation and entering the draft early I see next years team being below .500.
• newarkcatholicfan

  

  Better watch out lady sherm might get upset if you do not say only good things about N-Dame.
  
  I am guessing sherm is a female with the way she seems to whine on so many post.
  
  
  If I am wrong on this assumption, I apologize.
• Sonofanump

  Kelly is a fine coach, Notre Dame has not done much since they increased the academic standards.
• sleeper

  

  sherm03 wrote: I don't know why I even put myself through reading this shit from Sleeper, CC, and NCF. It's like every time I see one of their names, I think to myself "maybe this is the post where they stop being a big douche bag homo and actually post something intelligent." Then I read their shitty post filled with dumb logic and skewed facts and then I get bummed out.
  
  Why do I put myself through it? Why do I continue to read the shit that spews from their retarded minds? You guys clearly hate Notre Dame...and that's cool. Why don't you get a little support group together and just start a big circle jerk with each other thinking about how funny you all think you are...because let's face it, nobody else here likes you and if you disappeared tomorrow...we wouldn't give a flying fuck.
  
  F.O.A.D.!! Douchers.

  Has anything I posted untrue? No. I think ND fans are so wrapped up in their bias they fail to see the simply truth. ND is a second tier(at best) program trying to maintain top tier program from nearly 20 years ago.
  
  No one likes ND fans because year after year we have to hear about how great they are going to be, until the year actually comes, and then we have to hear about how great ND will be next year. I'd be okay with ND if they actually had any decent logical fans that realized their team is average at best and will never return to national prominence, EVER. I mean ND went 6-6 this year, and you had people claiming Heisman for Tate or Clausen, seriously? I mean really? Delusional. And then of course, the arrogance to turn down a minor bowl game because you are too good for it? LOL. Face it, the only thing ND is too good is laughing at their own shortcomings, and you can take that to the bank.
• woody

  I just wonder if Kelly can get away with yelling at his players & coaches on the sidelines at ND, most top D1 players have been spoiled most of their lives & do`nt like to get yell at by coaches in front of 80,000 fans.
• ghosthunter

  

  sleeper wrote:

  sherm03 wrote: I don't know why I even put myself through reading this shit from Sleeper, CC, and NCF. It's like every time I see one of their names, I think to myself "maybe this is the post where they stop being a big douche bag homo and actually post something intelligent." Then I read their shitty post filled with dumb logic and skewed facts and then I get bummed out.
  
  Why do I put myself through it? Why do I continue to read the shit that spews from their retarded minds? You guys clearly hate Notre Dame...and that's cool. Why don't you get a little support group together and just start a big circle jerk with each other thinking about how funny you all think you are...because let's face it, nobody else here likes you and if you disappeared tomorrow...we wouldn't give a flying fuck.
  
  F.O.A.D.!! Douchers.

  Has anything I posted untrue? No. I think ND fans are so wrapped up in their bias they fail to see the simply truth. ND is a second tier(at best) program trying to maintain top tier program from nearly 20 years ago.
  
  No one likes ND fans because year after year we have to hear about how great they are going to be, until the year actually comes, and then we have to hear about how great ND will be next year. I'd be okay with ND if they actually had any decent logical fans that realized their team is average at best and will never return to national prominence, EVER. I mean ND went 6-6 this year, and you had people claiming Heisman for Tate or Clausen, seriously? I mean really? Delusional. And then of course, the arrogance to turn down a minor bowl game because you are too good for it? LOL. Face it, the only thing ND is too good is laughing at their own shortcomings, and you can take that to the bank.

  To write that they will never return to national prominence, EVER is mind boggling, simply because no one knows what will happen with ND football. Remember just a decade or so ago, USC was a non-factor before Pete Carroll. Look at Alabama before Saban. Remember Zook at Florida? Even Randy Shannon has started to re-elevate the UM program back into the spotlight.
  
  
  People want ND to fail simply because they hate the program. I also feel that after listening to the Swarbrick news conference, the university did not want to go to a bowl game simply because they felt that they didn't deserve it. But remember... they let the players decide.
• killer_ewok

  

  All I know is NCF went on some rant last week (he sent me a PM) about how he didn't want to be like some other posters who name call and get personal and all this other stuff yet he's on here calling names, still trolling, etc. Same old same old. And it's always the same shit from CC and sleeper. You know it's bad when there are Buckeye fans on here saying how annoyed they are by these people and that they're going overboard with their ND bashing/trolling.
• newarkcatholicfan

  

  How amn I trolling?
  Who did I call a name?
• steel_curtain

  killer_ewok wrote: All I know is NCF went on some rant last week (he sent me a PM) about how he didn't want to be like some other posters who name call and get personal and all this other stuff yet he's on here calling names, still trolling, etc. Same old same old. And it's always the same shit from CC and sleeper. You know it's bad when there are Buckeye fans on here saying how annoyed they are by these people and that they're going overboard with their ND bashing/trolling.

  My favorite post on here is where sleeper of all people had the audacity to call people illogical.
• sjmvsfscs08

  sleeper wrote: I just wanted to clarify for people so that we don't get this thread off track. The AD said "compete for National Championships" but he didn't say anything about winning them. I don't think any sane person could argue that ND is on pace to win National Titles, just "compete for" which probably means getting BLOWN out in any BCS bowl they get too.

  Answer my question prick, would losses to Florida and LSU by scores of 41-14 and 38-24, respectively, be what you were thinking?
  
  And I was the one who launched a substantial amount of the Clausen for Heisman threads. "Any sane person" would have cognizance of the fact that they are arguably the best, out of everyone in the country, at their respective positions. "Ahh!!! but you need team success to win the Heisman!!!" Really? Fuck yourself. Gerhart is playing in the Sun Bowl and Suh is playing in the Holiday Bowl. Not exactly National Championship games. That said, my opinion that Clausen should win the Heisman went out the window with the season's end, you heard zilch from me in regards to his Heisman chances at that point. When Notre Dame stood at 6-2, his chances for the Heisman were as good as anybody's. Unfortunately it didn't work out.
  
  You a douchebag, and you can take that to the bank. You come on here and post like you actually know what the hell you're talking about. You and ccrunner have the combined mental capacity of a box of rocks. It's a Friday night, and Ohio State is done with finals....what the hell are you doing spending your evening flaming on Notre Dame threads? Shouldn't you be trying to get your dong slobbered on by your roommate or at least packing to go home? No? You've got nothing better to do? You're an irrelevant loser, and you can't also take that to the bank.
• newarkcatholicfan

  

  Most Notre Dame fans are when it comes to Notre Dame football.
• killer_ewok

  

  newarkcatholicfan wrote: How amn I trolling?
  Who did I call a name?

  "Lady Sherm"? Calling him a whiny female.
• newarkcatholicfan

  

  I said if I am wrong on him being a she I was sorry.
  
  I just can't see a guy crying that much and taking a shot at another poster on a message board for no reason.
  
  I am sure you missed that shot.
• killer_ewok

  

  newarkcatholicfan wrote: I said if I am wrong on him being a she I was sorry.
  
  I just can't see a guy crying that much and taking a shot at another poster on a message board for no reason.
  
  I am sure you missed that shot.

  Please. You went on and on about not stooping to the level of others. Do yourself a favor and save your breath next time. I don't know why you PM'ed me in the first place but it's pretty clear that you talk out of both sides of your mouth. Go ahead and rationalize and justify your routine. It's an old act that many ND fans and non-ND fans alike are tired of.
  
  And spare me the stuff about you "honestly" thinking that he's a woman. You're such a phony.
• newarkcatholicfan

  

  Cool. You see it the way you want and I will see it for what it is.
• Mr Pat

  Yikes people, don't let the kids bother you.
• Cleveland Buck

  

  Answer my question prick, would losses to Florida and LSU by scores of 41-14 and 38-24, respectively, be what you were thinking?

  That would be considered competing for national championships when they are accompanied by a 31-24 win over Miami for a national title, a 35-28 win over Kansas State, and a 34-20 win over Notre Dame.
  
  Now you may resume flaming the idiots.
• h2thaizzo

  ND needs to gameplan on how to beat USC before they can begin to think about national championships. This year of any, would have been the year, but they blew it. USC will be built back up again next season, pissed off about the lack of success this year, and throttle ND. I think its going to be a very long time before Notre Dame is battling for a national title.
• NOL fan

  sjmvsfscs08 wrote: Answer my question prick, would losses to Florida and LSU by scores of 41-14 and 38-24, respectively, be what you were thinking?

  I believe he was referring to a 41-14 loss to LSU and a 34-20 loss to the team who, despite losing the 2 games you just mentioned, has 2 more BCS bowl victories than ND has BCS appearances
• Big Gain

  Not unless he thinks DEFENSE first.
• sherm03

  

  newarkcatholicfan wrote: I said if I am wrong on him being a she I was sorry.
  
  I just can't see a guy crying that much and taking a shot at another poster on a message board for no reason.
  
  I am sure you missed that shot.

  Here's a shot for you asswipe...people like you are the reason I'm pro-choice.
• sjmvsfscs08

  Cleveland Buck wrote: That would be considered competing for national championships when they are accompanied by a 31-24 win over Miami for a national title, a 35-28 win over Kansas State, and a 34-20 win over Notre Dame.
  
  Now you may resume flaming the idiots.

  NOL fan wrote: I believe he was referring to a 41-14 loss to LSU and a 34-20 loss to the team who, despite losing the 2 games you just mentioned, has 2 more BCS bowl victories than ND has BCS appearances

  If you're insinuating I do not like Ohio State, or that I think Notre Dame is the better program, you couldn't be more wrong. I am simply trying to get this sleeper clown to be humble once in a while.
• dat dude

  rocket31 wrote:

  Tiernan wrote: Kelly was a panic hire becuz they knew a mid major guy wouldn't turn them down.

  "He was the first person I talked to, he was the only person I offered this oportunity to..."
  
  from AD Swarbrick.
  
  the first person they interviewed was a panic hire? amazing.

  Which goes to show you that the ND job is not what many perceive it to be. All I heard prior to this is that it is Urban Meyer's "dream job", etc.
  
  If you truly believe Brian Kelly was nd's first choice (and only), you are extremely naive.