Which of these teams will have the most wins next year?

• sleeper

  

  ND fans are over sensitive for no reason. They haven't won a relevant game in 20 years and their best win is a loss to USC. I mean when you give a terrible coach a 10 year extension for a close loss, you know you're program is a piece of shit.
• karen lotz

  

  Pick6;814918 wrote:So are you saying Illinois, who beat Missouri in their bowl game, is on the same level as Tulsa?

  
  
  Which bowl game did they play Missouri?
• Con_Alma

  sleeper;815061 wrote:ND fans are over sensitive ....

  Pot meet kettle.
• sleeper

  

  Con_Alma;815065 wrote:Pot meet kettle.

  
  I'm over sensitive? Please, my team is probably the best team in college football history, I don't care what the haters say.
• Con_Alma

  sleeper;815069 wrote:I'm over sensitive? Please, my team is probably the best team in college football history, I don't care what the haters say.

  
  
  You do care what they say and your posts show it.
  
  The truly greats don't have to tell people. The people know.
• sleeper

  

  Con_Alma;815072 wrote:You do care what they say and your posts show it.

  
  Ran out of posts on the Navy thread that no one cares about?
• Con_Alma

  sleeper;815074 wrote:Ran out of posts on the Navy thread that no one cares about?

  Not yet. There's no end to that. Why do you ask?
• stroups

  

  athlete37;814621 wrote:How about back to back bowl losses to a South Carolina team coming off an 0-11 season?

  You want to talk about bowl games? Hahahaha I generally get along with the ND fans around here but you sir are a turd.
  
  P.S. what happened the year after those dreaded losses to south carolina?
• stroups

  

  Little Danny;814968 wrote:LOL--- "Weezie!" You mean Jordan Jefferson?
  
  Then again, after watchinig Jefferson the past couple years you might not be that far off.

  
  I have to find the clip of him on ESPN a few weeks ago.
• Tobias Fünke

  

  Pick6;814918 wrote:So are you saying Illinois, who beat Missouri in their bowl game, is on the same level as Tulsa?

  
  No but I will say if we are going to incorrectly assume that teams play on a constant level every week, then Ohio State should have beat Illinois badly. The same Illinois that lost to Missouri by ten actually. They went 7-6, and let Michigan score 67 points on them. I would say they would have had a tough game against a pretty talented Tulsa team.
  
  Not forgiving the Tulsa loss, but I wasn't too angry after it. The last play was irrelevant. Notre Dame played with a freshmen quarterback who threw three interceptions. Notre Dame still put up ~460 yards and held Tulsa to without an offensive touchdown in the final three quarters. Hell, Tulsa only scored one offensive touchdown the whole game and that stat alone shows me how bizarre of a game it was. The defense, coming off its Navy sodomization, was starting to play well. But having a true freshmen quarterback being called upon to throw 54 passes in his first considerable action as a collegiate player....bad things can happen. Then throw the bonehead call on at the end, and it was a weekend to forget.
  
  That is the second of two games Dayne Crist lost for the Irish. He won't be injury free this season, but Kelly has done a great job (because he is actually a good coach, contrary to some opinions here) of preparing depth at the positions. If they lose to a Tulsa-type team this year, then I'll be livid. I took all of 2010 with a grain of salt.
• Little Danny

  

  Missouri lost to Iowa last year in the bowl, not Illinois. Missou actually played the Illini during the regular season and took them to the woodshed.
• stroups

  

  Here it is
  
  [video=youtube;41fqUSd6UEo][/video]
• Pick6

  

  My bad, mistaked illinois for iowa. Lol. Either way i believe illinois had multiple first round draft picks. No way is tulsa on the same level as them.
• athlete37

  

  Pick6;815567 wrote:My bad, mistaked illinois for iowa. Lol. Either way i believe illinois had multiple first round draft picks. No way is tulsa on the same level as them.

  
  http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings/_/poll/1/week/1/seasontype/3
  
  What a dumb thing to say... Tulsa finished 24 and Illinois wasn't even in the "Also Receiving Votes" list...
• LJ

  

  athlete37;815575 wrote:http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings/_/poll/1/week/1/seasontype/3
  
  What a dumb thing to say... Tulsa finished 24 and Illinois wasn't even in the "Also Receiving Votes" list...

  
  Illinois has more talent top to bottom than Tulsa. Illinois' coach sucks at coaching though. Illinois has put out multiple first 3 round draft picks since Zooker got there.
• karen lotz

  

  What does number of draft picks have anything to do with which college team is better? I'm not saying Tulsa is better than Illinois at all, but that literally has nothing to do with the argument.
• LJ

  

  karen lotz;815589 wrote:What does number of draft picks have anything to do with which college team is better? I'm not saying Tulsa is better than Illinois at all, but that literally has nothing to do with the argument.

  
  He countered that Illinois had better talent with Tulsa's ranking. Everyone knows that Zook gets top flight talent but can't beat a 10 year old in Madden.
• athlete37

  

  LJ;815582 wrote:Illinois has more talent top to bottom than Tulsa. Illinois' coach sucks at coaching though. Illinois has put out multiple first 3 round draft picks since Zooker got there.

  
  Well, 128 votes to none say Tulsa had a better season last year than Illinois
• athlete37

  

  LJ;815592 wrote:He countered that Illinois had better talent with Tulsa's ranking. Everyone knows that Zook gets top flight talent but can't beat a 10 year old in Madden.

  
  Where did he ever say the word "talent"?
• karen lotz

  

  Colorado had 2 first round picks this year. They went 3-9 in 2010.
• LJ

  

  athlete37;815594 wrote:Well, 128 votes to none say Tulsa had a better season last year than Illinois

  
  Ok? Doesn't change anything that I said.
• LJ

  

  karen lotz;815596 wrote:Colorado had 2 first round picks this year. They went 3-9 in 2010.

  
  ok? Illinois has 5-6 drafted yearly.
• athlete37

  

  LJ;815598 wrote:ok? Illinois has 5-6 drafted yearly.

  
  No one said anything about Tulsa being more talented. Tulsa won 10 games. Was ranked. Losing to them last year isn't that much worse than losing to Illinois, if at all.
• karen lotz

  

  LJ;815598 wrote:ok? Illinois has 5-6 drafted yearly.

  
  
  Again, what does number of draft picks matter when comparing two teams?
• LJ

  

  athlete37;815600 wrote:No one said anything about Tulsa being more talented. Tulsa won 10 games. Was ranked. Losing to them last year isn't that much worse than losing to Illinois, if at all.

  
  Who lost to Illinois?