Breaking down Terrelle Pryor's chances at the next

• imex99

  

  http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Breaking-down-Terrelle-Pryor.html
  
  
  With Jim Tressel resigning from Ohio State, Buckeyes quarterback Terrelle Pryor has been in the news a lot recently. We already know he will miss at least the first five games of the 2011 season and after the NCAA finishes its investigation, he may end up missing more. With that being said, there is a chance that Pryor could make himself eligible for the NFL Supplemental Draft. There is one catch — there isn’t a supplemental draft scheduled for this year. At least not yet.
  
  On Tuesday, the NFL said it hasn’t scheduled such a draft yet because no players have applied for one. After talking to a few labor lawyers it is my belief that the league was just covering their “butt” so to speak by making that statement. They are letting any potential draftees know that the league is willing to let them go through the draft process.
  
  A supplemental draft would be part of a 2012 draft and since the current CBA has expired there is no 2012 draft. It has to be bargained for as part of a new CBA. Could the NFLPA let the NFL hold a supplemental draft so that players who may request one can get drafted? Yes, but why? As part of its lawsuit against the NFL, the NFLPA and its membership is challenging the whole idea of a draft, so letting the league hold a supplemental draft would be in question at this time.
  
  Since you, the fan, have done nothing but read about all the legal maneuverings the last few weeks we will leave that to the legal experts and get on with the question of whether or not Pryor can play. The answer is yes!
  
  I watched five games of Pryor from 2010 (Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois, Miami and Arkansas) and have seen many of his games his first two years in college. Two things stand out: he has improved each year and he is an outstanding athlete. As a freshman he was an athlete who played quarterback and had poor throwing skills. In his three years playing he has become more of a passer than a thrower but he is still a long ways away from being an accomplished passer.
  
  We don’t have verified measurables on Pryor but he is about the same size as Cam Newton (6-5 and 245 pounds) and may be a little better athlete. He has speed, quick feet and outstanding body control to go along with very good strength. He has outstanding arm strength and can throw a tight, catchable ball. Unlike many of the “spread” formation quarterbacks, Pryor has played a number of plays from under center. It could be as much as 30–40 percent of the Ohio State offense, so playing from under center will not be a skill that he will have to learn when he makes the jump to the NFL.
  
  When taking snaps from under center, Pryor shows he can set up quickly, though he needs improvement with his footwork and staying in balance. On many of the OSU passing plays, Pryor has just a half-field read, but you do see him read the whole field at times. There are many times that when a play breaks down he will step up and look to the opposite side of the field and try to find an open receiver and at times he is able to find one.
  
  While he does have fairly good instincts, Pryor does not consistently process things quickly on the field. Instead of being patient and waiting for the play to develop he will often take off and run when under pressure. Because of his speed and athleticism he can be very dangerous and make big plays when he decides to run. He has a running back mentality with the ball in his hand and can be a powerful runner.
  
  In the passing game, Pryor is much more comfortable throwing to his left than he is to his right. There are some games when a good majority of his throws are to the left and some of his worst throws go to the right. He has a strong arm and from a statistical point of view good accuracy, but his ball placement is average. There are many throws where the receiver has to make a big adjustment or just wait for the ball. While he can get away with that in college, he won’t in the NFL. He only has average vision and is not consistently quick to find open secondary receivers, which is why he lacks patience. He flashes throwing with touch, but he can be very inconsistent when throwing on the run. The one thing that is noticeable is that he throws a good deep ball, but he will also force some deep throws and throw into double or triple coverage. He has to learn that while he has arm strength and deep accuracy, his thought process has to be more conservative and not force throws.
  
  One of the primary traits a quarterback has to have to be successful in the NFL is leadership. He has to lead both verbally and by example and be respected by both his teammates and coaches. This is a trait that has been in question his whole career at Ohio State. After Pryor’s first year at OSU, I was at an All-Star game interviewing players for that draft. One of the players I talked to was an Ohio State player. As part of the interview I would ask him about players he played against in the Big Ten and some of his draft-eligible teammates. I seldom ask about underclassmen but because Pryor was such a big name I decided to ask his opinion of the freshman. The answer was shocking. He told me he disliked Pryor very much and if anyone said they like him they would be lying! He said that Pryor came in with an attitude, felt he was better than every one else and did not really have to compete to get the QB job because it was owed to him. He said Pryor was cocky, arrogant, and not very friendly and showed little or no respect for older teammates — guys who had already paid the price. He questioned Pryor’s work habits both on and off the field and his overall ability to lead, saying he was too selfish to be a leader.
  
  Granted, this was during Pryor’s freshman year and hopefully he has matured, but from all accounts recently by “unnamed” teammates, things have not changed that much. It seems that Terrelle Pryor is all about Terrelle Pryor.
  
  Overall, as a talent, Pryor could be in the same class as Cam Newton. He has some rare traits and is very competitive on the field. He is a playmaker and has more natural talent than many of the quarterbacks drafted in the first round this year. It also seems as if he has many of the same “issues” as Newton, but still talent wins out and some team will draft him very high. Whether or not he becomes a good NFL player remains to be seen. With his current attitude, I wouldn’t bet on it but he is young and hopefully he will grow.
  
  
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• Footwedge

  Prior will make a great wide receiver....maybe a tight end if he's willing to learn how to block. As a quarterback, no effin chance.
• Pick6

  

  Footwedge;791464 wrote:Prior will make a great wide receiver....maybe a tight end if he's willing to learn how to block. As a quarterback, no effin chance.

  
  why? because he is black, tall, and athletic? What makes you a NFL scout? If WR was his best position, he would be playing it. This isnt a small school high school football team where you play out of position just for the betterment of the team, this is one of the best collegiate football programs in the nation.
• vball10set

  Footwedge;791464 wrote:Prior will make a great wide receiver....maybe a tight end if he's willing to learn how to block. As a quarterback, no effin chance.

  
  maybe, but how will Pryor fare?
• ts1227

  

  Pick6;791473 wrote:why? because he is black, tall, and athletic? What makes you a NFL scout? If WR was his best position, he would be playing it. This isnt a small school high school football team where you play out of position just for the betterment of the team, this is one of the best collegiate football programs in the nation.

  
  I don't know, why don't you ask every quarterback that meets that description not named Michael Vick.
• Pick6

  

  ts1227;791507 wrote:I don't know, why don't you ask every quarterback that meets that description not named Michael Vick.

  
  Warren Moon, Dante Culpepper, Vince Young, Donovan McNabb have all had decent careers just off the top of my head. Its not like TP is a system quarterback, either. He plays in a pro style offense and has a great record. Just look at how Armanti Edwards, who the Panthers tried to convert from a QB into WR..didnt exactly work out.
• Al Bundy

  Footwedge;791464 wrote:Prior will make a great wide receiver....maybe a tight end if he's willing to learn how to block. As a quarterback, no effin chance.

  
  Pryor has only taken a handful of snaps as a receiver. I'm not sure why people think he will be great. I think his long strides would hurt his route running ability. We have know idea what kind of hands he has. There are many great college receivers who don't make it in the NFL; I'm not sure why people think pryor will.
• Thinthickbigred

  The whole thing about Pryor is attitude. I think NFL people might not want to coddle this guy for a NFL QB job .. but truth of the matter is ,he is talent loaded.. I know my Steelers wouldnt take a risk on him but hey Cinci might be a perfect fit
• bo shemmy3337

  Pick6;791473 wrote:why? because he is black, tall, and athletic? What makes you a NFL scout? If WR was his best position, he would be playing it. This isnt a small school high school football team where you play out of position just for the betterment of the team, this is one of the best collegiate football programs in the nation.

  
  Epic fail, I assume that he was speaking on his throwing ability and not the fact that he is black. Never was that mentioned. Also who are you? He is not a good enough passer in my eyes to be a good QB in the NFL but that is just my opinion.
• sleeper

  

  Bust.
• Tobias Fünke

  

  I laugh at anyone who thinks Terrelle Pryor will have a career as an NFL quarterback. It boils down to decision making and accuracy in the NFL, not athleticism (unless you're a freak like Vick) or arm strength. Yes, he plays in a pro-style offense. Big fucking deal, he also plays on a loaded team against inferior opponents who have to stop the run first. It won't be like that in the NFL. Plus Pryor's accuracy is a joke. It's a matter of consistency at the professional level, and he doesn't even have a modicum of it.
  
  I can't see him being a TE because he doesn't have the stones to block an NFL DE, in my opinion. I just don't see it. I also don't see him being quick enough to be a conventional slot receiver or have the ability to get separation as a wide out.
  
  I can see Pryor having a career as a receiving TE who is split out often. He is an incredible athlete and someone can find a way to use that in sets. He will never be the focal point of an NFL offense.
• Trueblue23

  

  I think he is ZERO future as a QB. Kid isn't very smart. Wildcat maybe.
• Footwedge

  Pick6;791473 wrote:why? because he is black, tall, and athletic? What makes you a NFL scout? If WR was his best position, he would be playing it. This isnt a small school high school football team where you play out of position just for the betterment of the team, this is one of the best collegiate football programs in the nation.

  Yes as a matter of fact....it is that he is tall and athletic. Being black has nothing to do with it you fucking racist. He does not have the arm accuracy to be a pro quarterback...but would be Harold Carmichaelish as a wide out.
• 2kool4skool

  

  imex99;791435 wrote: After Pryor’s first year at OSU, I was at an All-Star game interviewing players for that draft. One of the players I talked to was an Ohio State player. As part of the interview I would ask him about players he played against in the Big Ten and some of his draft-eligible teammates. I seldom ask about underclassmen but because Pryor was such a big name I decided to ask his opinion of the freshman. The answer was shocking. He told me he disliked Pryor very much and if anyone said they like him they would be lying! He said that Pryor came in with an attitude, felt he was better than every one else and did not really have to compete to get the QB job because it was owed to him. He said Pryor was cocky, arrogant, and not very friendly and showed little or no respect for older teammates — guys who had already paid the price. He questioned Pryor’s work habits both on and off the field and his overall ability to lead, saying he was too selfish to be a leader..

  
  Chances this wasn't Brian Hartline? Negative 1000%
• Tobias Fünke

  

  How long have I been saying that though? It's been well known fact that most people disliked him, even on the football team. Winning cures everything though, so it was easily muffled.
  
  The only people on campus who like the man are girls with low self-esteem.
• vball10set

  Tobias Fünke;791870 wrote:How long have I been saying that though? It's been well known fact that most people disliked him, even on the football team. Winning cures everything though, so it was easily muffled.
  
  The only people on campus who like the man are girls with low self-esteem.

  
  I fought you on this early on, but I'm convinced now that you were right all along...he can't leave campus soon enough for me
• Y-Town Steelhound

  

  You can't be an NFL quarterback if you can't throw a 20 yard out...plain and simple.
• jordo212000

  

  Zero chance.
• Terry_Tate

  

  2kool4skool;791862 wrote:Chances this wasn't Brian Hartline? Negative 1000%

  
  The first and only name I thought of who would have said that was Brian Hartline. No doubt about it.
• Tobias Fünke

  

  vball10set;791956 wrote:I fought you on this early on, but I'm convinced now that you were right all along...he can't leave campus soon enough for me

  
  haha hopefully Miller is learning from all of this and I can root for the Buckeyes again.
• CCwinCC

  this is a funny thread....First of all now that his money chain is being stopped, he will resort to crime, similar to ex OSU player Clarett.
  
  be ready Columbus bar owners....he comes the guns, coke and the ghetto gang-Pryor and his boyz in the hood
• dat dude

  CCwinCC;794088 wrote:this is a funny thread....First of all now that his money chain is being stopped, he will resort to crime, similar to ex OSU player Clarett.
  
  be ready Columbus bar owners....he comes the guns, coke and the ghetto gang-Pryor and his boyz in the hood

  
  You have some issues, man.
• 2kool4skool

  

  Tobias Fünke;791870 wrote:It's been well known fact that most people disliked him, even on the football team.

  
  Not accurate FWIW.
• Tobias Fünke

  

  2kool4skool;794104 wrote:Not accurate FWIW.

  
  Pryor has his circle of buddies, but plenty of players find him to be an arrogant asshole.
• Manhattan Buckeye

  I can't believe some people think he can just step in and be a WR. There's nothing to evidence that he can run a route, let alone catch a ball. This is the NFL, each team is at least 5 deep with REAL wide receivers, you know guys just as fast but with experience.
  
  At best right now he's a Brad Smith (Jets), a guy that can add to creative plays. At worst he's a Pat White (bust).