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  • gorocks99
    SportsAndLady;702216 wrote:You guys may want to look up the last 10 or 15 championship teams the correlation to their conference tourney. Unless you're playing in the ACC, it's almost a must to win your conference tourney to win a title.

    Yeah, out of the last 13 champions, 9 have won their conference tournament that same season:

    2010: Duke (Won ACC Tournament)
    2009: North Carolina (Lost in conference tourney)
    2008: Kansas (Won Big XII Tournament)
    2007: Florida (Won SEC Tournament)
    2006: Florida (Won SEC Tournament)
    2005: North Carolina (Lost in conference tourney)
    2004: UConn (Won Big East Tournament)
    2003: Syracuse (Lost in Big East tourney)
    2002: Maryland (Lost in ACC tourney)
    2001: Duke (Won ACC Tournament)
    2000: Michigan State (Won Big 10 Tournament)
    1999: UConn (Won Big East Tournament)
    1998: Kentucky (Won SEC Tournament)
  • centralbucksfan
    gorocks99;702314 wrote:Yeah, out of the last 13 champions, 9 have won their conference tournament that same season:

    2010: Duke (Won ACC Tournament)
    2009: North Carolina (Lost in conference tourney)
    2008: Kansas (Won Big XII Tournament)
    2007: Florida (Won SEC Tournament)
    2006: Florida (Won SEC Tournament)
    2005: North Carolina (Lost in conference tourney)
    2004: UConn (Won Big East Tournament)
    2003: Syracuse (Lost in Big East tourney)
    2002: Maryland (Lost in ACC tourney)
    2001: Duke (Won ACC Tournament)
    2000: Michigan State (Won Big 10 Tournament)
    1999: UConn (Won Big East Tournament)
    1998: Kentucky (Won SEC Tournament)

    Not sure I buy into there being some kind of correlation that you need to win your conf. tourney to win the NCAA. Fact of the matter is, these teams were all just very good teams, best in their conference. So no, I don't think its a must to win the conference. I also wonder how many teams who have gone on to win the NCAA, won the regular season conference titles??
    What it does say though, is what some argue about teams/players being "tired" going into the NCAA. The above totally throws that theory out the window.
  • SportsAndLady
    centralbucksfan;702438 wrote:So no, I don't think its a must to win the conference.

    No one is saying it's a must.
  • centralbucksfan
    SportsAndLady;702216 wrote:, it's almost a must to win your conference tourney to win a title.

    LOL..oh my bad...just "almost a must".
  • SportsAndLady
    centralbucksfan;702464 wrote:LOL..oh my bad...just "almost a must".

    Almost a must

    and

    A must

    are two entirely different things.
  • dave
    damn, you don't realize how few B10 titles have been won lately until you see a list like that. So many 2nd place finishes lately, OSU or Purdue need to finish the job this year. When was the last one before MSU, must have been Michigan or Indiana?
  • wildcats20
    centralbucksfan;702438 wrote:Not sure I buy into there being some kind of correlation that you need to win your conf. tourney to win the NCAA. Fact of the matter is, these teams were all just very good teams, best in their conference. So no, I don't think its a must to win the conference. I also wonder how many teams who have gone on to win the NCAA, won the regular season conference titles??
    What it does say though, is what some argue about teams/players being "tired" going into the NCAA. The above totally throws that theory out the window.

    1998....Kentucky....Yes(reg season), won both
    1999....UConn....Yes, won both
    2000....Sparty....NO...OSU won the reg. season
    2001....Duke....NO...Carolina won the reg. season
    2002....Maryland....Yes, lost in conf. Semis
    2003....Cuse....Yes, tied with Pitt
    2004....UConn....NO...Pitt won the reg. season
    2005....UNC....Yes, lost in conf. semis
    2006....Florida....NO, Tenn. won reg. season
    2007....Florida....Yes, won both
    2008....Kansas....Yes, tied with Texas
    2009....UNC....Yes, lost in conf. semis
    2010....Dook....Yes, tied with Maryland, won both


    So, 9/13 teams won the reg. season title.
  • CinciX12
    Anybody know how much a ticket would cost?
  • wildcats20
    dave;702479 wrote:damn, you don't realize how few B10 titles have been won lately until you see a list like that. So many 2nd place finishes lately, OSU or Purdue need to finish the job this year. When was the last one before MSU, must have been Michigan or Indiana?

    There have been 10...
    Men's Basketball (10)
    Year School
    1932 Purdue †
    1940 Indiana
    1941 Wisconsin
    1953 Indiana
    1960 Ohio State
    1976 Indiana
    1979 Michigan State
    1981 Indiana
    1987 Indiana
    1989 Michigan
    2000 Michigan State

    † Helms Athletic Foundation National Champion, not NCAA. In 1936 the Helms Athletic Foundation was formed and retroactively compiled a list of college basketball champions for the previous 35 years. For 10 of the years that followed the formation of the Western Conference (the Big Ten's original name), a Big Ten team was selected: 1907-09, 1912, 1914-16, 1919, 1931-32. Indiana's 1940 NCAA championship was not recognized by Helms, which selected USC instead. Chicago's 1908 national title was won in a championship series against the University of Pennsylvania.
    Well, 9.
  • wildcats20
    CinciX12;702965 wrote:Anybody know how much a ticket would cost?

    http://www.stubhub.com/big-ten-tournament-tickets/?osid=ncaabb_top_big10
  • karen lotz
    CinciX12;702965 wrote:Anybody know how much a ticket would cost?

    I might be making the trip with a few buddies but I'm struggling with the idea of not being able to watch the rest of Championship Week. They are leaving Thursday night and plan to just scalp tickets once they get there. I think that would be the cheapest way to go about getting tickets.
  • CinciX12

    DO NOT MAKE ME CLICK LINKS HOW LAZY ARE YOU?!?!?!?
  • wildcats20
    CinciX12;702976 wrote:DO NOT MAKE ME CLICK LINKS HOW LAZY ARE YOU?!?!?!?

    HAHAHA

    Upon further review, when I chose just the championship game, nothing loaded on my screen.
  • dave
    wildcats20;702977 wrote:HAHAHA

    Upon further review, when I chose just the championship game, nothing loaded on my screen.

    there are a bunch available, just let it load.
  • wildcats20
    dave;703080 wrote:there are a bunch available, just let it load.
    That's the thing, it wouldn't.
  • Iliketurtles
    wildcats20;703395 wrote:That's the thing, it wouldn't.
    Get rid of all your porn then!
  • Ankle Breaker
    Thursday, March 10 - First Round

    Northwestern (8) vs. Minnesota (9) @ 2:30
    Penn St. (7) vs. Iowa (10) @ approx. 5:00
    Michigan St (6) vs. Indiana (11) @ 7:30

    Friday, March 11 - Quarterfinals
    Game 1 >Ohio St. (1) vs. Northwestern/Minnesota winner @ high noon
    Game 2 >Illinois (4) vs. Michigan (5) @ approx. 2:30
    Game 3 >Purdue (2) vs. Penn St./Iowa winner @ 6:30
    Game 4 >Wisconsin (3) vs. Mich. St./Indiana winner @ approx. 8:00

    Saturday, March 12 - Semifinals
    Winner of 1st Quarterfinal game vs. winner of second quarterfinal game from Friday @ 1:40 p.m.
    Winner of 3rd quartfinal game vs. winner of fourth quarterfinal game from Friday @ approx 3:10 p.m.

    Sunday, March 13 - Championship @ 3:30 p.m.

    Expect a couple of teams to be playing for a bid to the dance while others are playing for a more favorable seed or tourney games closer to home.

    This is a big cash cow so I understand why it's being done but not putting too much stock in the outcome so far as the Buckeyes are concerned. Just hope to get everyone out of this with no injuries.
  • sleeper
    OSU will win it. I won't even watch any of the other games.
  • wildcats20
    Can't even see a sticky thread at the top of the page ALL the time? SMH
  • Cleveland Buck
    Ankle Breaker;705457 wrote:Thursday, March 10 - First Round

    Northwestern (8) vs. Minnesota (9) @ 2:30
    Penn St. (7) vs. Iowa (10) @ approx. 5:00
    Michigan St (6) vs. Indiana (11) @ 7:30
    Penn State is the 6 seed. Michigan State is the 7.
  • CinciX12
    This Minny and Northwestern game is painful to watch.

    I like the B1G at the foul line though, I will give Delany and his retarded creation that at least.
  • gorocks99
    Freakin. Awful. What a collapse to end the year. I'm gonna go punch a tubby gopher in frustration.
  • dave
    NW vs OSU rematch, wonder if a NW win would put them on the bubble?
  • Heretic
    I'd think they'd have to win the conference title. 7-11 conference record, no quality OOC wins and an 0-7 mark against in-conference ranked teams (at the time they played them)...one big tournament win won't overcome that.