The Official Early Entry into the NFL Draft Thread

• karen lotz

  

  Randall Cobb of Kentucky will enter the draft.
• Tiger2003

  

  Add Cam Newton.
  
  
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• karen lotz

  

  ccrunner609;637626 wrote:and after I saw that bowl game, I would draft TP one spot ahead of Cam Newton. I have always thought he was about the same player as TP, just in a better system for that type of player. He isnt close to being ready.

  
  
  Are you drunk?
• Red_Skin_Pride

  

  karen lotz;637746 wrote:Are you drunk?

  I don't think he's ready either. 1 year with the team around him he had doesn't make him ready. Pryor's had a pretty good team around him for 3 years now and he's still not ready. It will be painfully obvious next year if a team tries to start him. Very, VERY few athletic QB's work out in the NFL. Vick is the best example. Young has had moments, but has never sustained it consistently, and everyone else has pretty much failed miserably. Newton's style won't work in the NFL (hell he was hurt in the NC game, what do you think the Steelers or Ravens D would do to him?) and he needs another year to improve his passing even more, because once he figures out he can't run consistently, he has to be a GREAT passer, not just above average. He's good now, but he could use another year to work on more stuff that he'll be forced to do in the NFL.
• karen lotz

  

  I wasn't arguing that Newton is necessarily ready to step in and start week 1 next season for whoever drafts him. I was asking him if he was drunk because he said he would draft Pryor one spot in front of Newton.
• sportswizuhrd

  Red_Skin_Pride;637749 wrote:I don't think he's ready either. 1 year with the team around him he had doesn't make him ready. Pryor's had a pretty good team around him for 3 years now and he's still not ready. It will be painfully obvious next year if a team tries to start him. Very, VERY few athletic QB's work out in the NFL. Vick is the best example. Young has had moments, but has never sustained it consistently, and everyone else has pretty much failed miserably. Newton's style won't work in the NFL (hell he was hurt in the NC game, what do you think the Steelers or Ravens D would do to him?) and he needs another year to improve his passing even more, because once he figures out he can't run consistently, he has to be a GREAT passer, not just above average. He's good now, but he could use another year to work on more stuff that he'll be forced to do in the NFL.

  So being hurt in one game means he will have a hard time in the NFL but being hurt/injury free during the regular season doesn't mean he wont have a hard time?
• se-alum

  

  At Auburn, Newton had to go through 1 maybe 2 progressions before he took off running. He's never had to make 4 reads. He is far from NFL ready, but another year in Auburn's system isn't going to make him any more ready.
• OneBuckeye

  

  se-alum;637887 wrote:At Auburn, Newton had to go through 1 maybe 2 progressions before he took off running. He's never had to make 4 reads. He is far from NFL ready, but another year in Auburn's system isn't going to make him any more ready.

  
  I think most of Auburn's offensive plays aren't designed to have reads (save the option game) they are designed to fool the defense and leave one or two receivers open. It will definately be an adjustment to an NFL offense for Newton.
• j_crazy

  

  Fairley is declaring too. there's the likely #1 pick.
• centralbucksfan

  Loss of Newton takes Auburn from top 5 team to out of top 15 real quick.
• FatHobbit

  

  When is the deadline to declare? I'm curious to see if those five guys live up to their promise or not...
• ytownfootball

  

  FatHobbit;638420 wrote:When is the deadline to declare? I'm curious to see if those five guys live up to their promise or not...

  
  end of this week, I think the 15th is the actual date.
• karen lotz

  

  ytownfootball;638436 wrote:end of this week, I think the 15th is the actual date.

  
  
  This is right. Players can fax in the paperwork and as long as its received before midnight tomorrow, they are good.
• sportswizuhrd

  Final list.
  
  AJ Green, WR, Georgia
  Aaron Williams, CB, Texas
  Akeem Ayers, LB, UCLA
  Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri
  Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri
  Brandon Burton, CB, Utah
  Brandon Harris, CB, Miami
  Cam Newton, QB, Auburn
  Corey Liuget DT Illinois -
  Da’Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson
  Darren Evans, RB, Virginia Tech
  DeAndre Brown, WR, Southern Mississippi
  Dion Lewis, RB, Pitt
  Henry Hynoski, FB, Pitt
  J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin
  Jacquizz Rodgers, RB, Oregon St.
  Jamie Harper, RB, Clemson
  Jerrell Powe, NT, OLE Miss
  John Clay RB Wisconsin
  Jonathan Baldwin WR Pittsburgh
  Jordan Todman, RB, UConn
  Julio Jones, WR, Alabama
  Jurrell Casey, DT, USC
  Kenny Tate, S, Maryland
  Kyle Rudolph, TE, Notre Dame
  Lawrence Guy DT, Arizona State
  Marcel Dareus, DT, Alabama
  Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama
  Martez Wilson, LB, Illinois
  Mikel Leshoure RB Illinois
  Muhammad Wilkerson, DT, Temple
  Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn
  Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
  Rahim Moore, S UCLA
  Randall Cobb, WR, Kentucky
  Robert Quinn DE North Carolina
  Robert Sands S West Virginia
  Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas
  Ryan Williams, RB, Virginia Tech
  Shane Vereen, RB, California
  Stevan Ridley, RB, LSU
  Tandon Doss, WR, Indiana
  Thomas Keiser, LB, Stanford
  Tori Gurley, WR, South Carolina
  Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland
  Tyler Slash, S, Iowa
  Tyron Smith, OT, USC
  Vidal Hazelton, WR, Cincinnati
  Will Hill, S, Florida
  Zane Parr, DE, Virginia
• vball10set

  When was the last time there weren't any Buckeyes on this list? I know it's prolly because of "the promise", but would any of the Tat 5 have come out if not for this pledge??
• Speedofsand

  

  half those guys will be lucky to make a roster opening day.
• jordo212000

  

  I thought at least one of the Buckeye pledges would have jumped ship.
  
  As to the guy who said he would take TP right around Cam Newton... are you serious? Not only is Newton a much better college player, but he also shows more potential for the NFL. He is a much better passer than TP and to me, appears to be far more athletic. With all that being said, I wouldn't pick Newton anywhere within the first 20 picks; however, I wouldn't pick TP as a QB until about the 5th or 6th round
• se-alum

  

  jordo212000;638941 wrote:I thought at least one of the Buckeye pledges would have jumped ship.
  
  As to the guy who said he would take TP right around Cam Newton... are you serious? Not only is Newton a much better college player, but he also shows more potential for the NFL. He is a much better passer than TP and to me, appears to be far more athletic. With all that being said, I wouldn't pick Newton anywhere within the first 20 picks; however, I wouldn't pick TP as a QB until about the 5th or 6th round

  I don't think there's much difference between Pryor and Newton. They have very similar passing numbers, and Pryor actually had to read a defense. Newton is in a one read and run offense. I personally wouldn't take either of them until at least the 3rd round.
• jordo212000

  

  I thought at least one of the Buckeye pledges would have jumped ship.
  
  As to the guy who said he would take TP right around Cam Newton... are you serious? Not only is Newton a much better college player, but he also shows more potential for the NFL. He is a much better passer than TP and to me, appears to be far more athletic. With all that being said, I wouldn't pick Newton anywhere within the first 20 picks; however, I wouldn't pick TP as a QB until about the 5th or 6th round

  I don't think there's much difference between Pryor and Newton. They have very similar passing numbers, and Pryor actually had to read a defense. Newton is in a one read and run offense. I personally wouldn't take either of them until at least the 3rd round.

  Stats don't tell the whole story. Watch the two throw the football and you can clearly see the difference
• karen lotz

  

  ccrunner609;638884 wrote:Are you stupid? Cam Newton is not a good passer, at least he isnt as good as TP. These guys will be drafted off of their passing ability, not hteir running ability.

  
  Newton was the second ranked passer by efficiency in the country behind only Kellen Moore. 50 less attempts, 3 more TD's, 4 less INT's. I don't believe I said he was a great passer or anything like that, but for you to make the claim (again) that Pryor is better than Newton as a QB is just your bias talking. Pryor has improved each year but he is still not a polished QB.
• Baseball

  I'm not saying any of these guys will be great NFL qb's....but if memory serves me right i believe Mr. Brady up in New England was a 5th or 6th round pick, so it doesn't always go as to where they are drafted, either way i don't believe Newton or TP will ever be high draft picks...way to many flaws...