Your Top 10

• dwccrew

  

  rydawg5;578540 wrote:Iowa may have ended up playing shitty, but they didn't until after the OSU loss. They played OSU tough, and have the talent to be a top 15 team. However, they quit on this season or definitely played down to their comp when playing teams like Indiana.
  
  Iowa is a weird team.. the talent is there but where was the heart?

  
  I think a lot of it had to do with coaching to. I have never bought into Ferentz being that great of a coach. I think he has been overrated the whole time he has been at Iowa. He was coach of the year last year, even though Tressel and the Bucks won the Big 10 and in 2002 when the Bucks were national champs. Overrated.
• karen lotz

  

  rydawg5;578528 wrote:No. They lost by 30. Media won't brainwash me. Wisconsin and OSU stays above them.

  I said may be. They lost by 21 at Oregon. No way to tell for sure, but Stanford/Wisconsin would be one hell of a Rose Bowl. Too bad it likely won't happen with the Rose Bowl having to take TCU. You say the media won't brainwash you, but your love for OSU surely has.
• Cleveland Buck

  

  Ferentz is a great coach as far as player development is concerned. He just isn't a great game day coach, although if you give him time to prepare for the opponent he gets much better. He would do great at a place like Boise State where you only have to game plan for 2 games a year. They are down to the last running back on their roster and they played a brutal schedule that pretty much trashed their season.
• End of Line

  

  1. Auburn
  2. Oregon
  3. Wisconsin
  4. TCU
  5. Ohio State
  6. Stanford
  7. Michigan St.
  8. Arkansas
  9. Oklahoma
  10. Nebraska
• enigmaax

  jordo212000;578517 wrote:Serious question: How is Wisconsin ahead of Michigan State? Don't get me wrong, Wisky has been darn good as of late and they look to be for real. But how come nobody mentions that Sparty beat them head to head earlier this season?

  
  I would normally adhere pretty strictly to this logic. Both beat a 1-loss team as a marquee win and Mich State has the edge in beating winning teams (6 to 5). Michigan State's loss is worse because they were dominated and I guess thats what really hurt them, perception-wise because they've pretty much been out of the conversation since then. Then of course you have Wisconsin's eye-popping offensive output the last few weeks while Michigan State has scraped by. Hell, I think I've picked Michigan State to lose twice in the last few weeks. As I really started digging and thinking about it, I agree with you - Michigan State is kind of getting ripped off here.
• vball10set

  1. Auburn
  2. Oregon
  3. TCU
  4. Wisconsin
  5. Ohio State
  6. Stanford
  7. Arkansas
  8. Michigan State
  9. Boise State
  10. Oklahoma
• ZombieKiller

  lol at Ohio State at 5...no way they are better than Stanford
• Midstate01

  

  ZombieKiller;578871 wrote:lol at Ohio State at 5...no way they are better than Stanford

  
  Lol at Stanford over Ohio state who lost by 30 to Oregon. A team osu dominated in the rose bowl. Stanford is good but I'd take osu +10 head to head.
  You guys get completely brainwashed by the media. Watch them play...
• karen lotz

  

  Wasn't the final score 52-31? My math might be off here but I think that's only 21 points...
• ZombieKiller

  Oregon isn't the same team from last year. That team wasn't very good at all. Ohio State would lose by over 30 to them this year.
• karen lotz

  

  You are retarded if you think OSU would be a 10 point favorite. Stanford is the same type of team that Wisconsin is with a better quarterback.
• Manhattan Buckeye

  " Stanford is the same type of team that Wisconsin is with a better quarterback."
  
  And far less depth, which is why they were in games this year (USC, Washington St., ASU) that should have been far easier. I'm glad to see Stanford do well, but they are an up and down team, and fortunately for them they've been up more often and have pulled out wins when they weren't as up. They could easily lose to a lot of teams on those days. Aside from them and Oregon, the PAC-10 was pretty weak this year (Zona has showed signs of life, but they are also an up and down team), It wouldn't surprise me if Stanford lost 3-4 games with an SEC or Big 10 schedule.
• wes_mantooth

  

  vball10set;578865 wrote:1. Auburn
  2. Oregon
  3. TCU
  4. Wisconsin
  5. Ohio State
  6. Stanford
  7. Arkansas
  8. Michigan State
  9. Boise State
  10. Oklahoma

  
  Looks about right to me.
• Scarlet_Fever

  

  1. Auburn
  2. Wisconsin
  3. Ohio State
  4. Oregon
  5. Michigan state
  6. Stanford
  7. Arkansas
  8. Oklahoma
  9. LSU
  10. Nebraska
• believer

  

  1. Auburn
  2. Oregon
  3. Wisconsin (If the Cheez Heads hadn't had an off game against MSU, they'd EASILY be #1.)
  4. Ohio State (I think the Buckeyes would handle TCU.)
  5. TCU
  6. Stanford
  7. Michigan State
  8. Arkansas
  9. Oklahoma
  10. Nebraska/LSU (tie)
• vball10set

  karen lotz;578916 wrote:You are retarded if you think OSU would be a 10 point favorite. Stanford is the same type of team that Wisconsin is with a better quarterback.

  IMO, Wisky's Oline is much better than Stanford's, but you're right about the QB...no way I'd spot the Cardinal 10 points, but I think it'd be a helluva ball game (with OSU coming out on top, of course)
• ZombieKiller

  Scarlet_Fever;579110 wrote:1. Auburn
  2. Wisconsin
  3. Ohio State
  4. Oregon
  5. Michigan state
  6. Stanford
  7. Arkansas
  8. Oklahoma
  9. LSU
  10. Nebraska

  
  wow OSU at 3? No TCU? you are a joke
• cats gone wild

  1. Auburn
  2. Oregon
  3. Wisconsin
  4. TCU
  5. Stanford
  6. Arkansas
  7. OSU
  8. LSU
  9. Boise
  10. Oklahoma
  11. VT
  12. Nebraska
  13. Mich. St.
  14. Nevada
• ZombieKiller

  1. Oregon
  2. Auburn
  3. TCU
  4. Wisconsin
  5. Stanford
  6. Arkansas
  7. Boise State
  8. Oklahoma
  9. Ohio State
  10. Virginia Tech
• Scarlet_Fever

  

  ZombieKiller;579260 wrote:wow OSU at 3? No TCU? you are a joke

  
  
  
  Nope IMO TCU is not as good as any of those I have listed in my top 10. Also not big on oregon. Saw that dance last year. Bowl season will tell more if i was right or wrong. i'd like to see Wisconsin get into the NC game cause i think they are as good as anyone out there.
• believer

  

  Scarlet_Fever;579319 wrote:i'd like to see Wisconsin get into the NC game cause i think they are as good as anyone out there.

  No question about it. I think Wisky is probably the best team in the nation right now.
• vball10set

  ZombieKiller;579260 wrote:wow OSU at 3? No TCU? you are a joke

  ZombieKiller;579298 wrote:1. Oregon
  2. Auburn
  3. TCU
  4. Wisconsin
  5. Stanford
  6. Arkansas
  7. Boise State
  8. Oklahoma
  9. Ohio State
  10. Virginia Tech

  you've got the balls to call someone a joke after posting a list like this? you're worse than Ty Webb!!!
• vball10set

  believer;579327 wrote:No question about it. I think Wisky is probably the best team in the nation right now.

  you've got a heckuva argument for it--I agree that they're playing as well as anybody in the country right now
• karen lotz

  

  Manhattan Buckeye;578962 wrote:" Stanford is the same type of team that Wisconsin is with a better quarterback."
  
  And far less depth, which is why they were in games this year (USC, Washington St., ASU) that should have been far easier. I'm glad to see Stanford do well, but they are an up and down team, and fortunately for them they've been up more often and have pulled out wins when they weren't as up. They could easily lose to a lot of teams on those days. Aside from them and Oregon, the PAC-10 was pretty weak this year (Zona has showed signs of life, but they are also an up and down team), It wouldn't surprise me if Stanford lost 3-4 games with an SEC or Big 10 schedule.

  
  What 3-4 games would they lose in the Big Ten?
  
  Wisconsin's Big Ten schedule:
  Michigan State
  Minnesota
  Ohio State
  Iowa
  Purdue
  Indiana
  Michigan
  Northwestern
  
  Please point out the 3 or 4 teams that would beat Stanford out of those. Michigan State would be a game but they have also struggled with some bad teams, Ohio State would be a good game but Wisconsin proved that the smash mouth running game as well as an accurate QB can beat them, and then Iowa who was exposed coming down the stretch. Mix in games with UNLV, San Jose State, Arizona State and Austin Peay and Stanford very easily could be undefeated if they played that schedule.
• karen lotz

  

  vball10set;579358 wrote:you've got a heckuva argument for it--I agree that they're playing as well as anybody in the country right now

  Because they put up over 150 points against Northwestern and Indiana? Wisconsin is a very good team this year and plays a very physical brand of football. If some of you guys don't think Oregon could score the same amount of points against teams like that...