Notre Dame boosters request resignation of Brian Kelly, Jack Swarbrick

• newarkcatholicfan

  

  http://www.examiner.com/college-football-in-national/source-notre-dame-boosters-request-resgnation-of-brian-kelly-jack-swarbrick
• vball10set

  wow--I'm sure BK didn't sign up for this....it's gettin' pretty crazy in SB !!!
• Pick6

  

  i wonder what nd fans have to say about this...seeing how they thought we were retarded for thinking this would happy
• vball10set

  opinions coming in 3...2...1
• killer_ewok

  

  TWENTY boosters don't run everything in South Bend. Fuck 'em.
• jordo212000

  

  I thought both of them handled the questions very poorly when asked whether they were considering resigning. Both seemed very arrogant and almost scoffed at the possibility that this kid's death should affect their employment at all.
  
  The tragedy paired with Kelly calling the boneheaded pass play against Tulsa probably made his seat very warm. Just in this season alone, Tulsa and Navy have both beat Notre Dame. I think it is safe to say that the boosters didn't ever envision a season in which that would happen.
• Pick6

  

  jordo212000;547791 wrote:I thought both of them handled the questions very poorly when asked whether they were considering resigning. Both seemed very arrogant and almost scoffed at the possibility that this kid's death should affect their employment at all.
  
  The tragedy paired with Kelly calling the boneheaded pass play against Tulsa probably made his seat very warm. Just in this season alone, Tulsa and Navy have both beat Notre Dame. I think it is safe to say that the boosters didn't ever envision a season in which that would happen.

  
  maybe a loss to army will be the final nail?
• Fly4Fun

  

  Honestly, I agree with the boosters.
  
  This whole incident is on Kelly. He should resign, and since Swarbrick isn't willing to ask that much, he deserves to go.
  
  We are talking about a student dying because of someone's negligence during practice for a game. This is something that could have easily been prevented.
• jordo212000

  

  Fly4Fun;547794 wrote: We are talking about a student dying because of someone's negligence during practice for a game. This is something that could have easily been prevented.

  
  As Iverson would say "we talkin about practice." The wind was causing tornado warnings all around Indiana and Ohio and Kelly decided that it was important to videotape practice so that he can chew out the backup center for not hustling in between drills.
  
  Seems like he is missing the big picture
• killer_ewok

  

  Well, the investigation is still ongoing so let's see what the results are.
• rock_knutne

  I said it once, I'll say it again........there are some really DUMB people who post on ND threads. The author of this one is right up there with the rest of them!
• queencitybuckeye

  killer_ewok;547787 wrote:TWENTY boosters don't run everything in South Bend. Fuck 'em.

  
  The right 20 have more power then everyone else associated with the university combined. However, I don't believe the story.
• killer_ewok

  

  While I think that most on here (ND fan or not) would agree that NCF is a cock bite.......the info is somewhat accurate.
  
  Were there ND boosters who requested Kelly and Swarbrick's resignation? Yes.
  
  How many boosters requested this? 20 if I read correctly. I'm guessing (just a shot in the dark) that ND has a lot more than 20 boosters.
• killer_ewok

  

  queencitybuckeye;547857 wrote:The right 20 have more power then everyone else associated with the university combined. However, I don't believe the story.

  Was this the right 20 though? If so, they'd already be gone.
• queencitybuckeye

  killer_ewok;547860 wrote:Was this the right 20 though? If so, they'd already be gone.

  
  Certainly appears not, if a meeting happened at all.
• Fly4Fun

  

  killer_ewok;547858 wrote:While I think that most on here (ND fan or not) would agree that NCF is a cock bite.......the info is somewhat accurate.
  
  Were there ND boosters who requested Kelly and Swarbrick's resignation? Yes.
  
  How many boosters requested this? 20 if I read correctly. I'm guessing (just a shot in the dark) that ND has a lot more than 20 boosters.

  Agreed that NCF is a persona non grata almost anywhere on this site.
  
  And I'll also give that there are most likely MANY more than 20 boosters. But it also depends on the influence/aka "wealth" of the boosters that matter. But I do believe Kelly should be out. Unless I hear otherwise, I believe the situation rests on his shoulder as he is the guy in charge of practice.
• killer_ewok

  

  I may agree with you if the investigation supports your opinion. However, there could be more to the story than what we know (or assume).
• sjmvsfscs08

  Before athlete posts it:
  

  Dear Notre Dame students, faculty, staff, alumni, parents and friends,
  
  The tragic accident that took Declan Sullivan’s life just over a week ago, the Mass of Remembrance in the Basilica, and his family’s faith-filled funeral for him this week have given each of us the chance to grieve, remember and pray. Declan was a bright and energetic young man who lived his life with passion. We will miss him, and we believe that he is in the loving embrace of our Lord.
  
  Over this past week, I have had the great privilege of meeting with and trying to provide some measure of support to Declan’s parents, sister, brother and other members of his family. Many Notre Dame faculty, staff and students also have reached out to offer their assistance. Yet the Sullivan family, through their incredible grace and courage, has given us support and an example of how to respond. They ministered to us as we tried to minister to them.
  
  There is no greater sadness for a university community than the death of one of its students under any circumstances. Yet this loss is more devastating, for Declan died in a tragic accident while in our care. For that, I am profoundly sorry. We are conducting an investigation and we must be careful not to pre-judge its results, but I will say this: Declan Sullivan was entrusted to our care, and we failed to keep him safe. We at Notre Dame ? and ultimately I, as President ? are responsible. Words cannot express our sorrow to the Sullivan family and to all involved.
  
  I am committed to determining why this accident happened and to ensuring the safety of our students. We have been conducting an internal investigation to examine this accident from every possible perspective and to draw conclusions and formulate recommendations for the future. In order to ensure that our inquiry has been thorough, unbiased and accurate, I have asked Dr. Peter Likins, former President of the University of Arizona, to provide an external review of our inquiry, and he has graciously accepted.
  
  In selecting someone to review our investigation, I sought an individual experienced in higher education, with an impeccable reputation for integrity, intellect and independence. In Dr. Likins, we are fortunate to have just such a man. He brings numerous credentials to this assignment: as a world-renowned engineer; as a university administrator who served as provost at Columbia and president at Lehigh and Arizona; as a highly regarded member of numerous NCAA committees; and as a member of the Knight Commission on Intercollegiate Athletics.
  
  Investigations and external reviews such as this take time, but I assure you that, when complete, we will issue a public report on the outcome, including information on the events of the afternoon of Oct. 27, any institutional ramifications, and recommendations for safety policies in the future.
  
  Finally, in light of what I believe to be unfounded and unfair commentary and speculation, I want to say something about Coach Brian Kelly. Coach Kelly was hired not only because of his football expertise, but because we believed his character and values accord with the highest standards of Notre Dame. All we have seen since he came to Notre Dame, and everything we have learned in our investigation to date, have confirmed that belief. For those reasons I am confident that Coach Kelly has a bright future leading our football program.
  
  Thank you for your concern, and your prayers. At the darkest moments, the love, and care, and faith of the Notre Dame family shines most brightly.

  
  In Notre Dame,
  
  Rev. John I. Jenkins, C.S.C.
  &#8232resident

  University of Notre Dame

  So, basically unless newarkcatholicfan is the Pope, he can go fuck himself.
• WebFire

  I still think Kelly should only be fired over the kid's death if he was directly involved. That part we don't know yet, or at least I haven't read/heard.
• SportsAndLady

  

  3 things
  
  "Coach Kelly was hired not only because of his football expertise, but because we believed his character and values accord with the highest standards of Notre Dame. All we have seen since he came to Notre Dame, and everything we have learned in our investigation to date, have confirmed that belief."
  
  So, his values are that winning is more important than the safety of a 20 year old kid taping practice...gotcha.
  
  
  
  secondly, sj: you honestly believe that letter? I'm not saying he is going to be fired or anything; but, that is a standard response letter. It has no credibility. They HAVE to send that out. They HAVE to say he is our coach and has a bright future with us, blah blah. What else are they going to say? lol Again, not saying he is or should be fired. But just because they added that little part in that generic letter doesn't mean he is safe.
  
  Lastly, the arrogance coming out of South Bend is out of control.
• killer_ewok

  

  The arrogance coming out of South Bend is out of control? You mean the statement/e-mail by Fr. Jenkins in which he holds himself/the university responsible for Declan Sullivan's death?
  
  Yeah, some arrogance.
• SportsAndLady

  

  No I mean the arrogance like, you just got a kid killed, yet you're at a press conference arrogantly going on about YOUR JOB, when any decent human being would be deciding whether to resign, or not coach the rest of the season...i mean how could you, fully knowing you got someone KILLED?
  
  Yes, arrogance.
• Pick6

  

  killer_ewok;548298 wrote:The arrogance coming out of South Bend is out of control? You mean the statement/e-mail by Fr. Jenkins in which he holds himself/the university responsible for Declan Sullivan's death?
  
  Yeah, some arrogance.

  
  there arrogance of certain posters..such as sj and rock are.
• killer_ewok

  

  SportsAndLady;548299 wrote:No I mean the arrogance like, you just got a kid killed, yet you're at a press conference arrogantly going on about YOUR JOB, when any decent human being would be deciding whether to resign, or not coach the rest of the season...i mean how could you, fully knowing you got someone KILLED?
  
  Yes, arrogance.

  
  Yeah, forget investigations. You must know exactly what happened there that day prior to Sullivan's death. You know it all.
  
  Speaking of arrogance...
• killer_ewok

  

  Pick6;548300 wrote:there arrogance of certain posters..such as sj and rock are.

  
  They're in South Bend?