New AP poll for 10/3

• ptown_trojans_1

  

  Manhattan Buckeye;506082 wrote:Arizona spanked Iowa? What is your definition of spanking? They won by 7 points with Iowa practically giving them the game. To quote the AP recap:
  
  "The Wildcats blocked a punt to set up their first score, Travis Cobb returned a kickoff 100 yards for a touchdown and Trevin Wade ran an interception back 85 yards for another score."
  
  Congrats to Arizona for the win and early lead, but Iowa crapped the bed early in that game and still almost won. Iowa is a better overall team.

  
  Arizona dominated the game and beat Iowa on the field and you still think Iowa is the better team? That makes no sense.
• Cleveland Buck

  

  Arizona didn't dominate anything. The numbers were almost even, both teams made mistakes that cost them, and Arizona won by a TD on their home field. Arizona is a top 10 team, and so is Iowa.
• Manhattan Buckeye

  ptown_trojans_1;506094 wrote:Arizona dominated the game and beat Iowa on the field and you still think Iowa is the better team? That makes no sense.

  
  They dominated the first half, I'll give you that. I even explained how they did so.
  
  Did you watch the second half? The score was 34-27. I watched the whole game. If you didn't, you can admit such.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  Manhattan Buckeye;506112 wrote:They dominated the first half, I'll give you that. I even explained how they did so.
  
  Did you watch the second half? The score was 34-27. I watched the whole game. If you didn't, you can admit such.

  
  Yeah, I saw the whole game. Iowa did come back yes, but Arizona held their ground and still won. It is my view, and from watching other Arizona this year, they are a top 10 team. I would still put them ahead of Iowa, easily.
  
  Now, they will have a test, as they play Oregon St. but they area good team and one of the surprising teams out there. There is also some great, great football teams out west. The Pac-10 is loaded this year and Utah and Nevada are really playing well too. Not to mention Boise of course.
• believer

  

  ptown_trojans_1;506094 wrote:Arizona dominated the game and beat Iowa on the field and you still think Iowa is the better team? That makes no sense.

  Here are the game stats (Iowa first and then Arizona):
  
  1st Downs 19 19
  Total Yards 307 366
  Passing 278 303
  Rushing 29 63
  Possession 27:52 32:08
  
  Maybe a very slight advantage to Arizona but definitely NOT domination.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  believer;506128 wrote:Here are the game stats (Iowa first and then Arizona):
  
  1st Downs 19 19
  Total Yards 307 366
  Passing 278 303
  Rushing 29 63
  Possession 27:52 32:08
  
  Maybe a very slight advantage to Arizona but definitely NOT domination.

  
  Fair enough, but given the fact that Iowa was ranked in the top 10 and expected to win, should count. Also, Iowa is the Big Ten's 2nd best team, while Arizona may be the Pac-10s third best team. (Oregon and Stanford maybe better by the end of the year)
  
  The point is, Arizona straight up beat Iowa and questioning their spot in the top 10 is crazy to me. Right now, Arizona is playing some good ball.
• Cleveland Buck

  

  I think Arizona is better than Stanford. They play much better defense. Oregon is the only team in the Pac-10 who looks better right now.
• sleeper

  

  gerb131;505854 wrote:I would agree with that, but Bama far and away the best team in the country.

  
  Who have they beaten? An overrated Arkansas? An overrated Florida? They haven't really done anything to impress me, or to get the title "far and away the best team in the country". If they somehow go undefeated and end up playing Ohio State in the title game, I won't be worried, I'd love to get a crack at them.
• sleeper

  

  gerb131;505853 wrote:Wisconsin is a scary 2 loss team.

  
  Wisconsin shouldn't be ranked, they are not "scary" at all.
• sleeper

  

  BigAppleBuckeye;505930 wrote:Here is something I don't understand: OSU's defense played well (particularly after the first drive), and OSU's offense did not play well. Result? A lot of media outlets are labeling them overrated.
  
  Conversely, Oregon's offense played well, and their defense played HORRIBLY, yet they are jumping teams in the poll? I know, Stanford is ranked, etc, but it seems like teams with high-powered offenses and crappy defenses always get a pass in the national perception. Thoughts?

  There is a warped perception that if you have a high octane offense you are a good team, but I have to agree with you, it doesn't really make a lot of sense. However, are you really surprised Oregon jumped Boise? As cute as everyone thinks Boise is, they are not going to play in the title game, so it was going to happen eventually.
• Zombaypirate

  ccrunner609;506259 wrote:trying to FUCK Boise and TCU again..........maybe the powers that be will find a way to put them in a bowl together.

  I don't think you will have to worry about TCU, Utah is going to beat them.
• darbypitcher22

  

  Oregon got things figured out defensively yesterday, but I til kind of have a frame of mind that they struggle with someone who can pound the ball at you... they strugled when Stanford was running early and often in the 1st half and when OSU decided to run downhill at them in the Rose Bowl we were pretty good
• LJ

  

  ptown_trojans_1;506140 wrote:Fair enough, but given the fact that Iowa was ranked in the top 10 and expected to win, should count. Also, Iowa is the Big Ten's 2nd best team, while Arizona may be the Pac-10s third best team. (Oregon and Stanford maybe better by the end of the year)
  
  The point is, Arizona straight up beat Iowa and questioning their spot in the top 10 is crazy to me. Right now, Arizona is playing some good ball.

  
  Arizona has one of the best defenses in the country. Iowa going down on those 3 big plays early pretty much spelled disaster for them.
• the_system

  LJ;506334 wrote:Arizona has one of the best defenses in the country. Iowa going down on those 3 big plays early pretty much spelled disaster for them.

  
  I just have flashbacks of their 34-0 bowl game loss against Nebraska where they only had around 20 yards of offense. Their offense was clueless against a good defense. I know it was last year but it's essentially the same team. Maybe something has clicked for them, or maybe Iowa isn't nearly as good as everyone thought?
  
  For example Cal isn't a good team and lost by 1 AT Arizona last week. I think Arizona will get blown up a few times this year.
• Shabaka Bashaarat

  

  Cleveland Buck;506102 wrote:Arizona didn't dominate anything. The numbers were almost even, both teams made mistakes that cost them, and Arizona won by a TD on their home field. Arizona is a top 10 team, and so is Iowa.

  
  LMAO.
• Blanket

  Does Oregon get in over Ohio State if both are undefeated?
• devil1197

  Blanket;506630 wrote:Does Oregon get in over Ohio State if both are undefeated?

  
  Haha, no.
  
  If Bama and OSU are undefeated at the end of the season those two will be in the NCG.
  
  It's been Bama #1 and OSU #2 since before the season even started.
• Zombaypirate

  Blanket;506630 wrote:Does Oregon get in over Ohio State if both are undefeated?

  
  Depends on how the season plays out, it is possible for Oregon with the computers to leap Ohio St. Ohio St does not play Michigan St this year who just beat Wisconsin taking their value down. Arizona beat Iowa if Arizona stays undefeated they are more valuable than Iowa. It all depends on how things play out.
• derek bomar

  

  What I don't get is Boise has put their evil inside Oregon two years in a row, and all they do early this season is win...and they still get jumped by Oregon. That's BS. And if Oregon jumps OSU (won't happen), how would that make sense? They played this calendar year, and OSU won.
• Fly4Fun

  

  Blanket;506630 wrote:Does Oregon get in over Ohio State if both are undefeated?

  devil1197;506637 wrote:Haha, no.
  
  If Bama and OSU are undefeated at the end of the season those two will be in the NCG.
  
  It's been Bama #1 and OSU #2 since before the season even started.

  Zombaypirate;506650 wrote:Depends on how the season plays out, it is possible for Oregon with the computers to leap Ohio St. Ohio St does not play Michigan St this year who just beat Wisconsin taking their value down. Arizona beat Iowa if Arizona stays undefeated they are more valuable than Iowa. It all depends on how things play out.

  
  If OSU win's out they will be in the National Championship game.
  
  That win against Miami will be their saving grace. Miami will end up being a top 10 team and should win the ACC (although this doesn't mean that much). But Ohio State for the most part dominated Miami and made them look pretty bad so everyone wrote off Miami. Maybe it was just how good Ohio State actually is.
  
  But as pointed out... everyone would much rather praise a good offense than good defense so people tend to downplay defensive teams in the rankings.
• Blanket

  The only reason I asked was because of how close they are in points and with the games that Oregon has left to play.
  
  Oregeon's remaining schedule
  October 9 @ Washington State
  October 21 UCLA
  October 30 @ USC
  November 6 Washington
  November 13 @ Cal
  November 26 Arizona
  December 4 @ Oregon State
  
  Ohio State remaining schedule
  October 9 Indiana
  October 16 @ Wisconsin
  October 23 Purdue
  October 30 @ Minnesota
  November 13 Penn State
  November 20 @ Iowa
  November 27 Michigan
• se-alum

  

  Blanket;506802 wrote:The only reason I asked was because of how close they are in points and with the games that Oregon has left to play.
  
  Oregeon's remaining schedule
  October 9 @ Washington State
  October 21 UCLA
  October 30 @ USC
  November 6 Washington
  November 13 @ Cal
  November 26 Arizona
  December 4 @ Oregon State
  
  Ohio State remaining schedule
  October 9 Indiana
  October 16 @ Wisconsin
  October 23 Purdue
  October 30 @ Minnesota
  November 13 Penn State
  November 20 @ Iowa
  November 27 Michigan

  AP poll has no bearing on the National Title Game though. Oregon would have to jump OSU in the coaches poll to get in.
• Blanket

  I know that.
  
  You would think if these polls are this close that they will go right down to the final week to see who gets in if both are without a loss.
• devil1197

  Zombaypirate;506650 wrote:Depends on how the season plays out, it is possible for Oregon with the computers to leap Ohio St. Ohio St does not play Michigan St this year who just beat Wisconsin taking their value down. Arizona beat Iowa if Arizona stays undefeated they are more valuable than Iowa. It all depends on how things play out.

  
  No, it doesn't matter how the season plays out.
  
  If OSU and Bama go undefeated, they will play each other in the NCG. There is absolutely no debate and its laughable to suggest so.
  
  The polls have had these two teams as 1/2 since the beginning, I don't think they are going to change their mind because once again another Pac 10 team puts a lot of points up without a defense. Bama and OSU will bring in the ratings, the fans, the most money, the most history etc.
• se-alum

  

  Blanket;506891 wrote:I know that.
  
  You would think if these polls are this close that they will go right down to the final week to see who gets in if both are without a loss.

  The Coaches poll really isn't that close. OSU is closer to Alabama than Oregon is to OSU. If 'Bama & OSU both go undefeated, they are in the NCG, no question.