Why you play DIII Sports.....

• LJ

  

  lhslep134;501142 wrote:Again LJ, it's because of the extremely small amount of Vet jobs and Vet schools.
  
  For the grad schools that make up a much higher percentage of grad students name is still important.

  There is actually a huge shortage of vets. Your statement doesn't even make sense. Many people who apply to vet school have a back up plan of Med school.
• trep14

  LJ;501138 wrote:The avearage Gpa and such is alightly higher plus a large percentage of vet students already have an advanced degree. On my phone will provide link ltr

  
  According to the AAMC, the average GPA for matriculating students at M.D. schools in 2009 was 3.66. I couldn't find any official stats from vet schools, but a lot of websites put the average vet school matriculant to have around a 3.5. Also, I would say that over a quarter of my class has a masters degree in some form of biology, whether it be anatomy, micro, or biochem. Like I said, vet school is inherently more competitive because there are only like 30 vet schools in the US. But that doesn't mean students that get into vet school are more qualified than those going to other professional programs. And the whole "med school as a backup" thing? Please. Both are extremely hard to get into and they are different.
• LJ

  

  trep14;501178 wrote:According to the AAMC, the average GPA for matriculating students at M.D. schools in 2009 was 3.66. I couldn't find any official stats from vet schools, but a lot of websites put the average vet school matriculant to have around a 3.5. Also, I would say that over a quarter of my class has a masters degree in some form of biology, whether it be anatomy, micro, or biochem. Like I said, vet school is inherently more competitive because there are only like 30 vet schools in the US. But that doesn't mean students that get into vet school are more qualified than those going to other professional programs. And the whole "med school as a backup" thing? Please.

  The last release from avma was around 3.6 as well. Also, the Med school as backup is not a joke. A know a few property who has applied to Med school as a backup if they weren't. Accepted to their top choice vet school. Sorry u don't like facts
• trep14

  LJ;501193 wrote:The last release from avma was around 3.6 as well. Also, the Med school as backup is not a joke. A know a few property who has applied to Med school as a backup if they weren't. Accepted to their top choice vet school. Sorry u don't like facts

  
  How is you knowing of a few people who were planning to apply to medical school as a backup if they didn't get in to vet school make "Many people who plan to apply to vet school apply to medical school as a backup" a fact? The application process is completely different, from the pre-reqs required to the types of extracurriculars that are needed all the way down to the standardized test you have to take. Sorry but I can't imagine that interning at a zoo and taking care of animals is more impressive on a med school app than doing a year of research and volunteering at a local hospital taking care of actual patients.
  
  Once again, they are completely different processes and the only reason vet school is considered to be tougher to get into is because there are fewer spots, not because everyone that applies for it is a better student than those applying to other types of professional schools.
• LJ

  

  trep14;501196 wrote:How is you knowing of a few people who were planning to apply to medical school as a backup if they didn't get in to vet school make "Many people who plan to apply to vet school apply to medical school as a backup" a fact? The application process is completely different, from the pre-reqs required to the types of extracurriculars that are needed all the way down to the standardized test you have to take.
  
  I guarantee that if you really want to become a vet, much of your extracurriculars have been spent spending time with animals. That's not going to be very impressive on a medical school application compared to someone who has spent their time doing research and volunteering at their local hospital. Like I said, they are completely different processes and the only reason vet school is considered to be tougher to get into is because there are fewer spots, not because everyone that applies for it is inherently a better student than those applying to other types of professional schools.

  Actually medical research is one of the biggest pre reqs for vet school.
• lhslep134

  

  LJ;501174 wrote:There is actually a huge shortage of vets. Your statement doesn't even make sense. Many people who apply to vet school have a back up plan of Med school.

  
  Dude are you capable of comprehension?
  
  I'm saying because there's so few vet jobs (shortage?!) and so few vet schools that even if name didn't matter, it's such a small percentage that it doesn't affect my statement that name DOES matter, which was proven with a link on this thread.
• LJ

  

  lhslep134;501200 wrote:Dude are you capable of comprehension?
  
  I'm saying because there's so few vet jobs (shortage?!) and so few vet schools that even if name didn't matter, it's such a small percentage that it doesn't affect my statement that name DOES matter, which was proven with a link on this thread.

  A shortage of vets not jobs.... obviously you need to answer your own question yourself
• lhslep134

  

  LJ;501209 wrote:A shortage of vets not jobs.... obviously you need to answer your own question yourself

  
  Is it not possible to face a shortage in a job market in which there's already few jobs in existence to begin with?
• LJ

  

  lhslep134;501210 wrote:Is it not possible to face a shortage in a job market in which there's already few jobs in existence to begin with?

  
  Oh Jesus Christ.....
• lhslep134

  

  LJ;501213 wrote:Oh Jesus Christ.....

  
  Dude all I'm trying to say is the percentage of vets and vet school students and whatnot is soooo small and insignificant that it has no bearing on my statement that name DOES matter.
  
  And to this point, you've done nothing to prove me wrong, so I'm going to delete all of my posts regarding the matter so this thread isn't cluttered more than it already is.
• LJ

  

  lhslep134;501217 wrote:Dude all I'm trying to say is the percentage of vets and vet school students and whatnot is soooo small and insignificant that it has no bearing on my statement that name DOES matter.
  
  And to this point, you've done nothing to prove me wrong, so I'm going to delete all of my posts regarding the matter so this thread isn't cluttered more than it already is.

  
  I'm on my phone I'm not writing a book in response to you, but your satistocal assumption is wrong
• thedynasty1998

  

  lhslep, being unbiased, I tend to agree with your side of this argument.
• georgemc80

  I get what you are saying about the whole experience. I spent many a weekend going to Duke to have some fun and heading to Columbus at other times.
  
  
  College is a personal decision, FWIW I am doing the exact career I wanted to do since 7th grade. (Advanced Placement US History Teacher) Muskingum was my path and my life couldn't have been better. For all the things listed previously, from my soul mate to playing football and being able to stay in contact with profs from 20 years ago, It met all my needs. In fact, I never felt myself wanting anything else. I know its not for everyone, and I steer many students to big State schools.... mostly because the small school is not as prevelant as in Ohio (Which is a +1 for Ohio).
  
  Point being....big or small, the college has to be what you and only you want...
• Tiger2003

  

  Holy Shit....Didn't post this to have a huge bitch fest, just found it and thought it was a pretty good read. Damn you guys find anything to bitch and compare schools about.
• UA5straightin2008

  

  being pre med and wanting to go to ohio state for med school, i consulted my neighbor who is on the board of medical school admissions at ohio state. my decision came down to denison and ohio state. he said to the admissions people that a honors degree from ohio state would look equivalent to a denison degree...so that a denison degree would look better than a regular ohio state degree to them. now i could have gotten in to the honors program, but i still wanted to play lacrosse and would have had to walk on at osu but would have had a spot for sure at denison (a top 10 DIII lacrosse school) so i decided to go to denison, where i am a biology major, chemistry minor and taking my MCAT this spring. saying an ohio state pre med degree looks better than d3 degrees is just ignorant...yes im sure it looks better than OWU, Capital, etc, but not a conn college, weslyean (conn), denison, kenyon degree, etc..
• sleeper

  

  UA5straightin2008;501372 wrote:being pre med and wanting to go to ohio state for med school, i consulted my neighbor who is on the board of medical school admissions at ohio state. my decision came down to denison and ohio state. he said to the admissions people that a honors degree from ohio state would look equivalent to a denison degree...so that a denison degree would look better than a regular ohio state degree to them. now i could have gotten in to the honors program, but i still wanted to play lacrosse and would have had to walk on at osu but would have had a spot for sure at denison (a top 10 DIII lacrosse school) so i decided to go to denison, where i am a biology major, chemistry minor and taking my MCAT this spring. saying an ohio state pre med degree looks better than d3 degrees is just ignorant...yes im sure it looks better than OWU, Capital, etc, but not a conn college, weslyean (conn), denison, kenyon degree, etc..

  
  You've been lied too, let me know if you need a job at Mcdonalds, I know some of my friends that went to Denison who work there.