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Why you play DIII Sports.....

  • trep14
    lhslep134;499761 wrote:And why does a pre-med degree from OSU look better than some shitty private d3 school? Because OSU is one of the best public schools in the country and there's a god damn reason that those people at d3 schools couldn't get in. And if you got in and didn't go here, you made a bad decision.

    If you want to prove me wrong, find numbers of graduate school admittants with similar scores and GPA from a small school and a top 55 school.


    I'm not talking about your (to the older guys) OSU, I'm not talking about your dad's (for the younger crowd) OSU where it took a pulse to get in, I'm talking about right now, now that OSU is an actual legitimate school with extremely tough admissions requirements.

    If place of degree doesn't matter, then why are some places harder to get into than others? There's no answer that doesn't require place of degree mattering.

    Haha ok, whatever. I went to one of those shitty private D3 schools and I got into medical school. I would be willing to guarantee that there are people who went to OSU who had similar GPA's and MCAT scores to me that didn't get in. School name plays a very small role in the admissions process for med schools. Unless you went to an Ivy league or comparable school, the benefits you get from having a "name school" on your application are minimal compared to your letters of rec, research, and community involvement. There are a ton of factors that are involved in getting into medical school. The name of the school you did your undergrad at is about as minimal as you can get.
  • Al Bundy
    lhslep134;499761 wrote: I'm talking about right now, now that OSU is an actual legitimate school with extremely tough admissions requirements.

    Here are your "extremely tough admission requirements" for the Fisher College of Business.

    http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/06profiles/ohiostate1.htm
  • sleeper
    lhslep134;499759 wrote:Sleeper's right, you guys are all jealous hacks.

    Haters gon hate bro. Just get yours, let everyone else wallow in mediocrity. It's the blind leading the blind, Ohio State grads will just have to show them the way.
  • darbypitcher22
    I played Division III baseball and chose that school because I liked the small town atmosphere and a a campus where everyone knows you. I know my professors (well, most of them) on a first name basis, and they're willing to do almost anything to help me. Plus, I wanted a chance to continue my career in a competitive environment (my 1st 2 years here we were one step away from the NCAA tournament) and have a chance to play eventually. I'm willing to bet theres a lot more people playing at DIII schools out there that take it more seriously than some of you jokers seem to think. I wouldn't spend up to 40 hours a week coaching, making recruiting calls, etc. on top of a full course load if I didn't take it seriously
  • Tiernan
    Why is this thread on the CFB forum in the first place?
  • georgemc80
    sleeper;499426 wrote:No its not. LOL

    People are so delusional when they go to a mediocre at best school and try to justify it with lines like this. BGSU is a bottom feeder school, welcome to reality.

    I have no idea presently how any school ranks in any field...simply because I am old and have no need for that information. Which is why I said at the time. Do not correct me again...unless you have have fully read my post. I didn't even go to BGSU but in 1989 they along with Muskingum had one of the top education departments in the country. This is not just conjecture. But then again I know what you are and I understand that you are masturbating at this opportunity to be a troll.
  • lhslep134
    Al Bundy;499778 wrote:Here are your "extremely tough admission requirements" for the Fisher College of Business.

    http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/06profiles/ohiostate1.htm

    Congrats, that's from 2006.

    A lot has changed in the past 4 years.

    If you look at the bottom, it says median ACT is 25 and SAT is 1190. Those scores won't get you anywhere close to being admitted into OSU now, let alone Fisher.

    Nice FAIL dumbass.
  • lhslep134
    trep14;499773 wrote:Haha ok, whatever. I went to one of those shitty private D3 schools and I got into medical school. I would be willing to guarantee that there are people who went to OSU who had similar GPA's and MCAT scores to me that didn't get in. School name plays a very small role in the admissions process for med schools. Unless you went to an Ivy league or comparable school, the benefits you get from having a "name school" on your application are minimal compared to your letters of rec, research, and community involvement. There are a ton of factors that are involved in getting into medical school. The name of the school you did your undergrad at is about as minimal as you can get.

    I'm talking about if it comes down to identical transcripts between you and someone from a big name school with IDENTICAL transcripts. GPA, MCAT, and similarly enough extra curriculars and volunteering.
  • lhslep134
    darbypitcher22;499937 wrote:I played Division III baseball and chose that school because I liked the small town atmosphere and a a campus where everyone knows you. I know my professors (well, most of them) on a first name basis, and they're willing to do almost anything to help me. Plus, I wanted a chance to continue my career in a competitive environment (my 1st 2 years here we were one step away from the NCAA tournament) and have a chance to play eventually. I'm willing to bet theres a lot more people playing at DIII schools out there that take it more seriously than some of you jokers seem to think. I wouldn't spend up to 40 hours a week coaching, making recruiting calls, etc. on top of a full course load if I didn't take it seriously


    I understand that, but my club golf team was 6 strokes short of qualifying for the national championship, so was your D3 varsity sport any less/more competitive than my club sport? Probably not.

    Darby, if you're that good, you could have just come and pitched on the club team at OSU which is probably better than a majority of D3 schools.
  • WebFire
    darbypitcher22;499937 wrote:I played Division III baseball and chose that school because I liked the small town atmosphere and a a campus where everyone knows you. I know my professors (well, most of them) on a first name basis, and they're willing to do almost anything to help me. Plus, I wanted a chance to continue my career in a competitive environment (my 1st 2 years here we were one step away from the NCAA tournament) and have a chance to play eventually. I'm willing to bet theres a lot more people playing at DIII schools out there that take it more seriously than some of you jokers seem to think. I wouldn't spend up to 40 hours a week coaching, making recruiting calls, etc. on top of a full course load if I didn't take it seriously

    I think baseball is different though. I can see baseball being taken more seriously at a D3 school than football.
  • thedynasty1998
    WebFire;499978 wrote:I think baseball is different though. I can see baseball being taken more seriously at a D3 school than football.

    No, football would be taken much more seriously, because it's a real sport.

    As for the topic at hand, it wasn't about choosing a small liberal arts school compared to a big state school, it was about playing sports at the D3 level. Personally, I don't understand why people go to small liberal arts schools just for schooling, but people have personal preferences.

    As for a D3 college athlete applying to a grad school program, don't underestimate the significance of being a college athlete on those applications. It is looked highly upon and playing a college sport teaches much more than some class can.
  • Pick6
    Found an article about this on the front page of Yahoo: http://finance.yahoo.com/college-education/article/110841/for-accountants-and-engineers-school-name-plays-bigger-role?mod=edu-collegeprep
  • thedynasty1998
    BTW, I'm not arguing that a liberal arts degree is better than one from OSU, because I don't believe it to be so. But I don't think you are at a big disadvantage going to a liberal arts school.
  • WebFire
    thedynasty1998;499991 wrote:No, football would be taken much more seriously, because it's a real sport.
    Ok, I'll ignore the dumbass comment and clarify what I mean. Baseball doesn't require near the work and attention that football does. You can go to college and play baseball a lot easier than you can football. Football requires much more work and dedication.

    I think that's why you see more kids quit D3 football than you do baseball.
  • thedynasty1998
    WebFire;500063 wrote:Ok, I'll ignore the dumbass comment and clarify what I mean. Baseball doesn't require near the work and attention that football does. You can go to college and play baseball a lot easier than you can football. Football requires much more work and dedication.

    I think that's why you see more kids quit D3 football than you do baseball.
    And that's exactly why I would say football is the "more serious" sport.
  • WebFire
    That isn't what you said though.
  • thedynasty1998
    WebFire;500141 wrote:That isn't what you said though.

    I know, but I wasn't sure what you were trying to say.
  • Tiernan
    OK if you all are going to insist this thread continue here on CFB, here's my two cents worth (which I know Webbie is just dying to hear). DIII football is very competitive in the Upper Midwest (Dakotas - Ohio) and requires a huge commitment on the player's part. The rest of the nation could care less about DIII football and its primarily attended by player's families on nice warm autumn days in Sept & Oct as a Sat diversion to Muffy's polo match. The only DIII sport that attracts legitimate big time talent is lacrosse. DIII lacrosse is actually higher caliber than most DII and many starters on DIII teams could play at the DI level.
  • sleeper
    georgemc80;499949 wrote:I have no idea presently how any school ranks in any field...simply because I am old and have no need for that information. Which is why I said at the time. Do not correct me again...unless you have have fully read my post. I didn't even go to BGSU but in 1989 they along with Muskingum had one of the top education departments in the country. This is not just conjecture. But then again I know what you are and I understand that you are masturbating at this opportunity to be a troll.
    Sorry, but I'm not buying BGSU ever being anything more than a mediocre at best school. Top in the country? Are you serious? I mean better than any of the Ivy leagues, Big Ten, Pac-10 schools? ANY OF THEM?

    Delusional.
  • sleeper
    lhslep134;499970 wrote:Congrats, that's from 2006.

    A lot has changed in the past 4 years.

    If you look at the bottom, it says median ACT is 25 and SAT is 1190. Those scores won't get you anywhere close to being admitted into OSU now, let alone Fisher.

    Nice FAIL dumbass.

    Exactly. The Ohio State of then is way different than the Ohio State of now. An ACT of 25 would get you sent to BGSU, but that's okay I guess because they have a top 10 in the country education department.
  • georgemc80
    Just how many people do you think go to Ivy League schools to get a secondary teaching degree?


    Now as far as admission standards for OSU, thankfully they are much more competitive than 20 years ago...I am sure they rival Texas...and I know that if you don't get in as a freshman, the admission standards are way lower for a transfer student after a year....so your elite standards are only in place for freshmen.
  • darbypitcher22
    WebFire;500063 wrote:Ok, I'll ignore the dumbass comment and clarify what I mean. Baseball doesn't require near the work and attention that football does. You can go to college and play baseball a lot easier than you can football. .

    I beg to differ
  • lhslep134

    Wait, place of degree matters?!

    Holy shit, didn't I just say that?

    Thanks pick6 for the article, I appreciate it.
  • karen lotz
    You also said a 25 on ACT and 1190 on SAT won't get you anywhere close to being admitted. The middle 50% of incoming freshmen from 2009 has ACT scores between 25-30 and SAT scores between 1120-1340. This comes straight from OSU's webpage. This would mean about 25% of students have worse scores than what you said.
  • trep14
    lhslep134;499971 wrote:I'm talking about if it comes down to identical transcripts between you and someone from a big name school with IDENTICAL transcripts. GPA, MCAT, and similarly enough extra curriculars and volunteering.


    Ok I can agree with that..everything else being equal, school name will come into play. But its very unlikely to find two candidates with virtually identical applications. In terms of getting into med school, you are not going to close any doors by attending a DIII college and doing well, just like you will not close doors by attending a state school or an ivy school and doing well.