Pac-10 set to ROFLSTOMP the Big XII?

• gorocks99

  

  http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1090747
  

  The Big 12 meetings are reaching their climax Thursday and Friday in Kansas City with the presidents and chancellors from the league coming together to discuss pressing issues, including sites for championships. (Look for the Big 12 title game in football to stay at Cowboys Stadium for the next three years.)
  
  But when it comes to possible realignment, the Big 12 meetings may be premature.
  
  Why?
  
  Because it appears the Pac-10, which has its meetings in San Francisco starting this weekend, is prepared to make a bold move and invite Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Colorado to join its league, according to multiple sources close to the situation.

• georgemc80

  a very aggressive and desperate move by the Pac 10. I think this just might push Texas (and aTm) to the Big 10
• sleeper

  

  Won't happen.
• ts1227

  

  Big 12 seems quite pissed/confused, calls off news conference. If they figure anything out, it'll happen tomorrow.
  
  Looks like the AD's are in disagreement in whether to keep the league together.
  
  http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5248220
• Red_Skin_Pride

  

  Well, the PAC10 will only get Colorado, maybe Tech at the most from the Big12. Oddly enough, Tech's wide open offense and lack of a stifling defense would fit well in the PAC10 most years. I can only hope it works, because it will create a domino effect IMO. a few teams leave for other conferences, the big boys (Texas, OU, Nebraska) are going to feel like the conference is going to collapse and will probably jump ship.
• sjmvsfscs08

  Well the Big XII doesn't divide revenue equally, so it's basically a conference owned by Texas. If I weren't Texas, I'd be looking to bolt from the Big XII too.
• Sykotyk

  

  If they got those six, they could easily split into two eight-team divisions.
  
  Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, Cal, UCLA, and USC
  Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State
  
  Then Nebraska/Missouri to the Big Ten. And Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, and Baylor could be relegated to the mid-majors, C-USA most likely.
  
  Sykotyk
• SQ_Crazies

  

  I really have no input, but why do you people end posts with their user names or have them as their signatures...just never made sense to me.
• Mohican00

  

  ^anyway....
  
  The amount of specific details and lack of outright denials from B12 officials leads me to believe that (1 is this a real offer from the Pac-10 and not some fabricated rumor from internet messageboardland, and more importantly (2 there is a very real chance that something is going to happen with the B12 this offseason. I still see no reason for Texas to go anywhere at this time as they've got the best hand in the B12:
  http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/In-conference-shuffling-only-a-few-can-afford-t?urn=ncaaf,243368#remaining-content
  
  For what it's worth, this may be nothing more than the formal extension Colorado has been waiting for to join the Pac-10 but otherwise I wouldn't be surprised if no one else bites.
• the_system

  georgemc80;378333 wrote:a very aggressive and desperate move by the Pac 10. I think this just might push Texas (and aTm) to the Big 10

  
  
  
  Texas isn't going to the Big 10. They would need to take aTm and TT with them to keep the state happy. TT isn't an AAU member, so they're out. Any move without all 3 schools involved would turn into a political sh!tfest in Texas and would likely be blocked.
  
  From some of the comments from the Big 12 AD's, it sounds like a merger with the Pac-10 is getting more and more likely. KU, KSU, and ISU would be mid majors. Missouri and Nebraska to the Big 10. Check out this comment on this article.
  
  "And what about Nebraska and the Big Ten? Nobody knows for sure.
  
  But two Husker scholarship athletes said recently their coaches have given them a heads-up about a move to the Big Ten being more than smoke. Also, a couple of recent NU job candidates said they were asked during interviews about their recruiting ties in Minneapolis, Chicago and Milwaukee."
  
  http://omaha.com/article/20100603/SPORTS/706039793#barfknecht-did-beebe-s-silence-answer-the-big-questions
• krambman

  

  sjmvsfscs08;378756 wrote:Well the Big XII doesn't divide revenue equally, so it's basically a conference owned by Texas. If I weren't Texas, I'd be looking to bolt from the Big XII too.

  
  This is the main reason why Nebraska is seriously considering the Big Ten. I've been saying all along that when the Big Ten expands to 16 and starts the ball rolling, that the Big XII would be done and that most schools would look west to join the Pac-10. If the Big Ten does go to a 16 team league then 12 team leagues won't be as viable and everyone else will be moving in the same direction. With the Big XII losing two of it's schools it's far more likely that they would split up than end up adding six new teams. And the Pac-10 needs to be aggressive, because if the Big XII doesn't merge with them, then it will be difficult for them to get to 16 and look legitimate by adding teams out west.
• jordo212000

  

  according to ESPN insider, Nebraska could potentially bolt this year and begin playing a Big 10 schedule this year. The author thought this was a move put out by the Big 10 to put the wheels in motion. Nebraska's departure would hurt the conference and probably cause the Exodus to start. (He thinks it is an effort to get Texas to commit)
  
  The Dispatch also was able to secure a few emails from E. Gordon Gee talking about adding Texas to the conference. Texas Tech and A&M may need to invited to get Texas to join
• ts1227

  

  From those emails, it looks like Gee is telling Delany to hurry the fuck up as well, before other conferences start making moves and mess up their plans.
  
  Glad to see someone is telling Delany that.
• the_system

  jordo212000;379111 wrote:according to ESPN insider, Nebraska could potentially bolt this year and begin playing a Big 10 schedule this year. The author thought this was a move put out by the Big 10 to put the wheels in motion. Nebraska's departure would hurt the conference and probably cause the Exodus to start. (He thinks it is an effort to get Texas to commit)
  
  The Dispatch also was able to secure a few emails from E. Gordon Gee talking about adding Texas to the conference. Texas Tech and A&M may need to invited to get Texas to join

  I mentioned it above about Texas not joining because of Texas Tech. The state of Texas wants all state schools in the same conference. The 'Tech' problem as Gordon Gee mentioned, is that Tech isn't an AAU member.
• jordo212000

  

  the_system;379193 wrote:The 'Tech' problem as Gordon Gee mentioned, is that Tech isn't an AAU member.

  
  True... but hasn't that myth already been dispelled. (i.e. the Big 10 doesn't care about the AAU/academic stuff as much as the public thinks it does)?
• ts1227

  

  The Big Ten may be coming to the reality that to expand like they want to, they may have to stop pretending like anyone gives two shits about the AAU
• the_system

  ts1227;379205 wrote:The Big Ten may be coming to the reality that to expand like they want to, they may have to stop pretending like anyone gives two shits about the AAU

  Every school in the Big 10 is an AAU member. The only conference in the country that has all of their schools as members. Most are at 1/2 or less. The amount of AAU grant money for member schools is ridiculous. Since the voting by member schools will be done by people much higher up than the coaches and ADs, believe me, they give more than two shits about the AAU status. The only school mentioned in the long list of 'potentials' is Notre Dame. Their academics are top notch though and I think they would be an exception. Texas Tech? Not so much.
• ts1227

  

  Also, back on line with the thread title, one of the ESPN guys was talking that this PAC-10 thing may have more legs to it than everyone thinks if the two the Big Ten are after (Nebraska, Missouri) refuse to commit to the Big 12.
• the_system

  ts1227;379256 wrote:Also, back on line with the thread title, one of the ESPN guys was talking that this PAC-10 thing may have more legs to it than everyone thinks if the two the Big Ten are after (Nebraska, Missouri) refuse to commit to the Big 12.

  It also sounds like the BigXII commissioner set a time limit for those who aren't on board for the BigXII in his statement after the meetings today. Missouri already said they weren't going to commit and would take an option if it was better for the school. Not sure where Nebraska stood.
• Mohican00

  

  the_system;379193 wrote:I mentioned it above about Texas not joining because of Texas Tech. The state of Texas wants all state schools in the same conference. The 'Tech' problem as Gordon Gee mentioned, is that Tech isn't an AAU member.

  
  "Tech problem" hahaha, what a kick in the nuts for tt
• jordo212000

  

  I think at the end of the day, Texas Tech will not be a hurdle at all. If Texas wants the Big 10 and the Big 10 wants Texas (seems as they do) it will happen.
  
  There are 11 teams currently. I could see a Big 10 add Texas, A&M, and Nebraska
• darbypitcher22

  

  if there are going to be additions, I like Texas, Nebraska, and Mizzou to the Big Ten. Those 3 teams and those three only
• 3reppom

  

  Anybody wanting to pluck Texas from the Big 12 has to make it worth their while in a big, big way. They control that conference and get the lions share of the TV revenue from all the Big 12 contracts. If the Big 10 or anyone else wants to add Texas they are going to pay out the ass for the privilege. Keep in mind that Texas isn't among the schools that are constantly bitching about the distribution of money within the conference. They don't like the current contract, there is a universal agreement that the Big 12 contract sucks, but there is no incentive for them to do anything about it. The PAC 10 will invite those six schools to join the conference, but the only way any of them joins is if Texas does.
• the_system

  3reppom;379523 wrote:Anybody wanting to pluck Texas from the Big 12 has to make it worth their while in a big, big way. They control that conference and get the lions share of the TV revenue from all the Big 12 contracts. If the Big 10 or anyone else wants to add Texas they are going to pay out the ass for the privilege. Keep in mind that Texas isn't among the schools that are constantly bitching about the distribution of money within the conference. They don't like the current contract, there is a universal agreement that the Big 12 contract sucks, but there is no incentive for them to do anything about it. The PAC 10 will invite those six schools to join the conference, but the only way any of them joins is if Texas does.

  
  Spot on.
  
  Most fans of big ten teams want Texas in, but I would be careful what you wish for. Does Texas bring in the most money? You bet. They also don't want to share it with anyone. There is a reason there is no Big 12 network....yet at this moment Texas is working on creating a Longhorn Sports Network. I read an article earlier explaining how Texas could still have some sort of sports network, AND draw an equal share of the BTN pie.
  
  Texas will also plan on running the Big 10 eventually. They've managed to get the B12 offices moved to Dallas, conference championship game permanently moved to Dallas, and chair the conference in just a short time. They came from the only conference in history that was basically shut down for being cheating bastards (SWC had like 7 schools on probation).
  
  Nebraska then-coach, now AD Tom Osborne, always cautioned allowing the SWC teams in as the power would shift to the state of Texas and he was right. They took one of the best rivalries in football, pissed on it, took it away, and made it their own (OU/Neb).
  
  Nebraska holds the future in their hands in my opinion. If they leave the B12 is done. Others will bail to the Pac-10. Apparently Missouri and Nebraska are on the clock. But I think they're on the clock because they want a B12 network and Texas doesn't....so they're wanting an answer on that before they commit to staying. The Texas AD comes off as an arrogant prick with some of his comments but it doesn't surprise me either.
  
  Here's a good point of view from a Sooners paper.
  http://www.newsok.com/is-nebraska-on-the-clock/article/3466077
• the_system

  Well, it looks like the sh!t will hit the fan soon enough. This leak just came out revealing details about the teams that wouldn't commit to the big 12 in the meetings last week. No surprise it's Missouri, Nebraska and Colorado. Now it sounds like the teams have 2 weeks to stay or go.
  
  
  "In a huge development, two sources close to the situation said Nebraska has been given a deadline of less than two weeks to decide its course in the Big 12."
  
  "Two sources said Missouri is eagerly hoping for an invitation from the Big Ten, while Nebraska appears to be on the fence about whether to hold out for a possible Big Ten invitation or move back to the table with the nine schools who are determined to keep the Big 12 alive."
  
  And, on queue, the state of Texas brings out their massive egos. (them referring to blocking colorado, who has been in the works trying to get into the Pac-10 for quite a while, in favor of Baylor so they can keep their Texas schools together.)
  
  "If you're going to have an exported commodity involved in this, do you think we're going to allow a school from outside the state of Texas to replace one of our schools in the Big 12 South? I don't think so. We're already at work on this," said a high-ranking member of the Texas Legislature who asked not to be identified."
  
  
  I'd venture to say that the Big 10 needs to act now if they want Nebraska. If Nebraska doesn't have something concrete from the Big 10 in two weeks, they will be forced to sign something saying they are staying in the Big 12.
  
  http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1091406