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Salem needs a new coach.

  • Gardens35
    QuakerOats wrote:
    Gardens35 wrote: "....was also head coach at Akron StV-StM when LeBron James was in eighth grade."

    Okie-Dokie.
    No, not the name I have.
    No 'Oats, I was on a different track with that. It's on one of the applicants "bio's" that's printed in the article. :)
  • CardsFlyinHigh
    It seems black and white to me because I have knowledge on this issue. I have seen the full list of applicants released. I don't know who your referring to but as I look through the list, there is not a name that stands out outside of the ones mentioned in the newspaper, that would be the slam dunk choice you mentioned. I could be overlooking someone its possible, but from the list, i can not see anyone that would fit who youre referring to
  • CardsFlyinHigh
    The names mentioned in the paper were the applicants who appeared to have the best credentials. 20 somethings who are assistants looking for their first job were not listed.
  • ts1227
    C'mon Cards, you know the hierarchy of information credibility in small towns...

    1. Crap that someone completely made up
    2. Completely incorrect bar chatter (but it did probably come from a high ranking alcoholic, so it must be true! :))
    3. Media reports
    4. Firsthand information

    :P
  • sports_talk
    If they were smart they would go with an assistant that has been around and is now wanting their own team. Someone in their late 20's with a lot of energy and will start the program at the grade school level. An old timer will start at the top and they usually don't have the energy. IMO
  • IRISHBUCK
    A Fine line always when choosing a coach.Taking an assisistant from a strong background program would be desirable. I disagree with the age ,late 20's.Young folks in their 20's are still finding their way around not much stability or experience on handling tough situations with players,parents and administration.I agree a younger coach may have more energy and be involved more with program building from bottom up.Old Timers are what they are and traditionally fairley rigid so I agree Younger may be better but not to young
  • QuakerOats
    QuakerOats wrote: There may another person out there that applied, a name that I have not heard or seen elsewhere. If it is true we could be incredibly fortunate.
    Please disregard ........ apparently.
  • tribepronk41
    My top 3 candidates would be 1. Brian Clark, 2. Chad Spurgeon 3. Richard Hart....Who is this big Federal league coach that applied? Is it Baker from Fitch?
  • arnie palmer
    I would not want Rich Hart as my school's coach.
  • QuakerOats
    tribepronk41 wrote: Who is this big Federal league coach that applied? Is it Baker from Fitch?
    That is not the name that I/we had been referring to.
  • tribepronk41
    when will the decision be announced?
  • QuakerOats
    My guess is that this week and next week they go through the interview process etc. and then make their recommendation for the board to approve at their monthly meeting on the third Monday of the month. So pehaps we find out on May 17th ....... ??
  • sports_talk
    hardly a name mentioned. What in the hell is the big secret? :huh: I guess it really doen't matter. The last time Salem won was when??????? So can any of these bums turn it around. I say bring in Bobby Knight.
  • tribepronk41
    u saying the 2006 team wasn't successful?
  • GoPens
    sports_talk wrote: hardly a name mentioned. What in the hell is the big secret? :huh: I guess it really doen't matter. The last time Salem won was when??????? So can any of these bums turn it around. I say bring in Bobby Knight.
    2006 District Champions
  • IRISHBUCK
    Pretty much think sports talk was referring to the general state of the union of Salem basketball whwich I believe has been at best average or below for the last 10-15 yrs excluding the fine team they had in 2006.Don't live on one season live on consistancy
  • SQ_Crazies
    One thing Salem consistently has had is good athletes. And good ball players. But also, bad coaching. Brink was a great coach, he got a lot out of that team and they did have a nice amount of talent. But it's a false notion to think that '06 class was head and shoulders above many other classes. They were good, no doubt about it. But they were well coached the entire way through, just like in football.

    But it's not just at the top level, I'd love to see a coach come in and get the lower level programs on lock down. I graduated in '05 and I know that my class got screwed around by enough coaches in the lower levels that many of the best athletes were sitting in the bleachers by the time high school came around (especially in basketball). In fact, my senior year there wasn't a senior on the team. And there were some damn good basketball players in my class--some that certainly would have been playing had they stuck with it.
  • ts1227
    sports_talk wrote: hardly a name mentioned. What in the hell is the big secret? :huh:
    They probably haven't decided yet, and maybe for once people are waiting it out instead of starting stupid rumors.
  • IRISHBUCK
    SQ_Crazies wrote: One thing Salem consistently has had is good athletes. And good ball players. But also, bad coaching. Brink was a great coach, he got a lot out of that team and they did have a nice amount of talent. But it's a false notion to think that '06 class was head and shoulders above many other classes. They were good, no doubt about it. But they were well coached the entire way through, just like in football.

    But it's not just at the top level, I'd love to see a coach come in and get the lower level programs on lock down. I graduated in '05 and I know that my class got screwed around by enough coaches in the lower levels that many of the best athletes were sitting in the bleachers by the time high school came around (especially in basketball). In fact, my senior year there wasn't a senior on the team. And there were some damn good basketball players in my class--some that certainly would have been playing had they stuck with it.
    With those statements I believe it is even more important for Salem to choose wisely on this Coach.Clarke has ties to area,Spurgeon still will be upward mobile and deservedly so.The big picture is Clarke would provide stability and start the program going that is needed in Salem and really every program.Put good people in good places and good things happen.
    Good Luck to Salem in the hunt
  • SQ_Crazies
    I think Clark may bet the job, but I'm not at all sold on him.
  • futbol4ever
    SQ_Crazies wrote: One thing Salem consistently has had is good athletes. And good ball players.
    For D-II?? You must not get out much. It is because of delusional attitudes like this that I really pity whoever gets this job.
  • SQ_Crazies
    That is absolutely not a delusional attitude. Trust me.

    No better example than Salem football. Look at their recent history, when have they been good? When we have a good line. Our skill players are always among the best around, but we rarely seem to be able to put together the guys up front.
  • futbol4ever
    SQ_Crazies wrote: That is absolutely not a delusional attitude. Trust me.

    No better example than Salem football. Look at their recent history, when have they been good? When we have a good line. Our skill players are always among the best around, but we rarely seem to be able to put together the guys up front.
    How many of those skill players made a significant impact at the next level?
  • SQ_Crazies
    A decent amount of them. And there are MANY that attracted a lot of attention from the next level and decided to concentrate on academics or whatever else they were doing with their lives. And trust me when I say there were many really good athletes in the bleachers at every Salem sporting event.

    Winning in high school gets you exposure, especially the playoffs. Salem just made the playoffs for the first time this year. We don't have a great overall record, like I said, we usually don't have the beef it takes up front. There are many good athletes from a lot of schools who didn't get a chance at the next level because they never got exposure. I'm not saying Salem is a powerhouse, but the town always has a good amount of very athletic kids.
  • ts1227
    futbol4ever wrote: How many of those skill players made a significant impact at the next level?
    That's a pretty narrow, and stupid way to measure it.

    As SQ said, you can still be a good/decent athlete without being college caliber. They may not be filling out D1 rosters, but they usually aren't bums.

    Schools around the area only send very few to good schools per year combined. It's not like every school around is a Pro Factory. Some people/districts actually pay attention to education too, you know :)