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Pitbulls are for poor stupid people

  • WebFire
    bigkahuna;1176518 wrote:Notice in that report that pitt bulls also have the highest % of the population? lol.

    Edit: Forgot to mention that I guess LJ was wrong.
    Highest of those listed, yes. But only about 5% of the total dog population, yet the highest deaths by a high margin.
  • LJ
    Sorry, this is my last post. More from the AVMA, you know, the experts.
    To Whom It May Concern:
    Attached, as requested, please find a copy of the report titled “ Breeds of dogs involved
    in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998” and published in the
    September 15, 2000 issue of the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association.
    In your review of this report, please be cognizant of the following:
    • This study was NOT conducted by the American Veterinary Medical Association,
    but by individual investigators from the Centers for Disease Control and
    Prevention, the Humane Society of the United States, and the American
    Veterinary Medical Association. The report underwent the standard review
    process required for publication of scientific reports published in the Journal of the
    AVMA.
    • In contrast to what has been reported in the news media, the data contained
    within this report CANNOT be used to infer any breed-specific risk for dog
    bite fatalities (e.g., neither pit bull-type dogs nor Rottweilers can be said to be
    more “dangerous” than any other breed based on the contents of this report). To
    obtain such risk information it would be necessary to know the numbers of each
    breed currently residing in the United States. Such information is not available.
    • Data in this report indicate that the number of dogs of a given breed associated
    with fatal human attacks varies over time, further suggesting that such data should
    not be used to support the inherent “dangerousness” of any particular breed.
    More than 25 breeds have been involved in fatal human attacks over the 20-year
    period summarized in this report.
    • Fatal attacks represent a small proportion of dog bite injuries to humans and,
    therefore, should not be the primary factor driving public policy concerning
    dangerous dogs.
    • Strategies that can be used in an effort to prevent dog bites include enforcement
    of generic, non-breed-specific dangerous dog laws, with an emphasis on
    chronically irresponsible owners; enforcement of animal control ordinances such
    as leash laws; prohibition of dog fighting; encouraging neutering; and schoolbased
    and adult education programs that teach pet selection strategies, pet care
    and responsibility, and bite prevention.
    Good day. Gonna take my fixed, well behaved, amstaff for a walk. Hopefully she only eats 4 children this time.
  • isadore
    What a load of self serving horse crap. They remind me of studies by the Wine Council finding that drinking wine will fight heart disease and the studies by the Coffee Council finding how coffee will extend your life. In stats they present show the danger and they refuse to admit it. They show that Pit bulls are by far the number one killers. You have to add the next three types of dogs together to match them.
    　
    http://www.avma.org/advocacy/state/issues/javma_000915_fatalattacks.pdf
    And the stats since them reflect that fact. It is bull (and I don’t mean the dog) to say there is no pattern. It is consistent through the years they exam and continuing up to the present.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States
    The AVMA makes money off these dogs and are sweeping this deadly plague under the carpet.
  • sportchampps
    Isadore do your stats take into account dogs that had bad owners and were not properly trained. Of course they do. Show me some stats that show a professionally trained pit bull with educated caring owners are any more likly to bite then any other dog that is trained and taken care of. You can't that's why a lot of cities have recently taken pits off of the vicious dogs list. Look at ohio house bill 79/55 if says no breed should be con sired viscous only dogs that commit acts are.
  • sportchampps
    The dogs that are committing these acts are untrained and have irresponsible owners that doesn't prove that every single pit bull is a horrible dog. Look at the number of murders committed by race. Does that mean since more African Americans commit murder we should consider all African American viscous humans. You have to look at the dogs on an individual basis just like you judge humans on an individual basis.
  • vball10set
    LJ;1176549 wrote:If you want to try to be an ass and try to correct people, maybe I should point out that "Pit Bull" is a single very specific breed and "bullys" or "bull terriers" is the TYPE of dog that you all are arguing against. Notice I keep referring to them as "bullys"? There is a reason for that.
    No thanks, one ass on this thread is enough, and I corrected the word from "pitt" to "pit" (was I wrong?). Also, when you say this is your "last post in this thread", please mean it. It's these sarcastic posts by you (a mod) that weaken justin's attempt to get this site back on track...basement or no basement.
  • isadore
    sportchampps;1176968 wrote:Isadore do your stats take into account dogs that had bad owners and were not properly trained. Of course they do. Show me some stats that show a professionally trained pit bull with educated caring owners are any more likly to bite then any other dog that is trained and taken care of. You can't that's why a lot of cities have recently taken pits off of the vicious dogs list. Look at ohio house bill 79/55 if says no breed should be con sired viscous only dogs that commit acts are.
    No what I looked at was not the vote but the article in the Lima News about the baby in a swing torn apart by a Pit Bull after those idiots repealed that law. Gosh i guess all the other dogs out there have been professionally trained and have educated, caring owners. That must be why they don't kill like Pits. Is there any law requiring all this special preparation for pit owners, No there isn't. And since there isn't why should we let these killers among us.
  • bigkahuna
    isadore;1176979 wrote:No what I looked at was not the vote but the article in the Lima News about the baby in a swing torn apart by a Pit Bull after those idiots repealed that law. Gosh i guess all the other dogs out there have been professionally trained and have educated, caring owners. That must be why they don't kill like Pits. Is there any law requiring all this special preparation for pit owners, No there isn't. And since there isn't why should we let these killers among us.
    I read a story about a pomeranian killing a 6 month old baby laying on the couch. WATCH OUT for those poms!

    Also, thanks for not answering my question about how many victims in your stats were children left unattended with the animal vs. being attended to. How many pit bulls attacked a child while the child was watching tv or eating dinner with their parents?
  • isadore
    bigkahuna;1176985 wrote:I read a story about a pomeranian killing a 6 month old baby laying on the couch. WATCH OUT for those poms!

    Also, thanks for not answering my question about how many victims in your stats were children left unattended with the animal vs. being attended to. How many pit bulls attacked a child while the child was watching tv or eating dinner with their parents?
    Just once excuse after another for these killers. Somebody looked the other way and that is why the dog was able to kill, the boy made a face at the dog and he caused the dog to kill, the kid was just looking to delicious and the dog could not control himself. When you look down the lists, Pitts being the killers is the rule rather than the exception.
  • Glory Days
    sportchampps;1176968 wrote:Isadore do your stats take into account dogs that had bad owners and were not properly trained. Of course they do. Show me some stats that show a professionally trained pit bull with educated caring owners are any more likly to bite then any other dog that is trained and taken care of. You can't that's why a lot of cities have recently taken pits off of the vicious dogs list. Look at ohio house bill 79/55 if says no breed should be con sired viscous only dogs that commit acts are.
    so every other dog other than pit bulls recieved professional training and have good owners?
  • WebFire
    bigkahuna;1176985 wrote:I read a story about a pomeranian killing a 6 month old baby laying on the couch. WATCH OUT for those poms!
    I read that ONE article too. Bet you can't even find one more.
    bigkahuna;1176985 wrote:Also, thanks for not answering my question about how many victims in your stats were children left unattended with the animal vs. being attended to. How many pit bulls attacked a child while the child was watching tv or eating dinner with their parents?
    Don't need to answer it. I don't know why you are focused on unattended children when more than double the deaths were ADULTS! Adults don't sit in baby swings unattended. So do you still blame their parents?
  • sportchampps
    No but other dogs that are not trained and have bad owners can kill just as well. You hear about more pit bulls killing people bc they are an attractive breed for neglectful owners. In the Wikipedia article is adore posted there were also fatal dog attacks by labs Rottweilers German Shepherds Doberman pinschers great Danes Huskys Mastiff collies Schaunzers Boxers Bulldogs chows Jack Russell Sheepdogs Blue heeler Weimarner. That list includes dogs of all sizes and types. Any dog can kill without a good upbringing. Dogs are like humans the way they are raised will have a lot to do with their actions in the future.

    Since most murders are committed by African Americans should we just ban them from society as well.
  • gerb131
    Piss off my pit bull awesome.
  • dwccrew
    sportchampps;1177077 wrote: Since most murders are committed by African Americans should we just ban them from society as well.

    That's because their owners let them run loose.
  • bigkahuna
    WebFire;1177023 wrote: Don't need to answer it. I don't know why you are focused on unattended children when more than double the deaths were ADULTS! Adults don't sit in baby swings unattended. So do you still blame their parents?

    The articles that he kept posting he refers to in his posts say "baby killers" That's why I keep asking about it.
    dwccrew;1177092 wrote:That's because their owners let them run loose.
    Reps.
  • isadore
    All you have to do is look at the statistics. It is not a matter of perception but of fact. Pitt Bull numbers overwhelm those of any other type of dog for killing humans. The numbers for any other species pales before the Pitts. It takes the totals of the next three highest dogs to match the deadly pits.
    But the excuses continue. If they only had received special training, if their owners had only been saintly, if they had only been spayed or neutered. Blah , blah, blah, they are killers.
  • dwccrew
    isadore;1177110 wrote:All you have to do is look at the statistics. It is not a matter of perception but of fact. Pitt Bull numbers overwhelm those of any other type of dog for killing humans. The numbers for any other species pales before the Pitts. It takes the totals of the next three highest dogs to match the deadly pits.
    But the excuses continue. If they only had received special training, if their owners had only been saintly, if they had only been spayed or neutered. Blah , blah, blah, they are killers.
    I agree. Pit bulls and black people are the worst.
  • WebFire
    sportchampps;1177077 wrote:You hear about more pit bulls killing people bc they are an attractive breed for neglectful owners.
    That's because they are a mean and aggressive breed, and those neglectful owners want to appear to be tough. There is a reason you don't see these "tough" guys with little ankle biters.
  • DeyDurkie5
    Pitbulls work at mcdonalds. They take orders. They love white women. Fried chicken and watermeon are some of the pitbulls most favorite food. Pitbulls hate white men.
  • vball10set
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  • Glory Days
    http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/05/pit_bulls_no_longer_deemed_vic.html
    In Ohio over the last seven years, 80 percent of the 57 dogs that killed or seriously injured people were pit bulls, according to media reports compiled by Animal People newspaper editor Merritt Clifton.
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  • WebFire
    That's all fine and good. But there are so many breeds where a bad owner does not equal death and mauling.
  • vball10set
    WebFire;1178879 wrote:That's all fine and good. But there are so many breeds where a bad owner does not equal death and mauling.
    :thumbup:
  • Glory Days
    WebFire;1178879 wrote:That's all fine and good. But there are so many breeds where a bad owner does not equal death and mauling.
    :thumbup: