Palmer Fest
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sleeper
Look at the salaries. Journalism is the one of the smallest. A lot of those are probably sales positions because that's all a journalism degree is good for.fish82;1158698 wrote:The new graduate unemployment rate for Journalism majors is lower than 11 of 15 commonly measured categories, according to a recent study by Georgetown. Just sayin.
http://www9.georgetown.edu/grad/gppi/hpi/cew/pdfs/Unemployment.Final.pdf -
Pick6
You're*sleeper;1158700 wrote:
You can admit your wrong any day now.
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fish82
You're absolutely right. It's way better to be sitting on your ass eating Cheetos on Mom's couch fapping to your diploma than making 32K and working in your chosen field. :rolleyes:sleeper;1158703 wrote:Look at the salaries. Journalism is the one of the smallest. A lot of those are probably sales positions because that's all a journalism degree is good for. -
sleeper
If Sales is in the journalism field, then I agree.fish82;1158723 wrote:You're absolutely right. It's way better to be sitting on your ass eating Cheetos on Mom's couch fapping to your diploma than making 32K and working in your chosen field. :rolleyes: -
sleeper
Plus I don't trust the study either(2009 numbers, its 2012 and doesn't include underemployed either, just employed vs. unemployed), but I do appreciate the effort in finding said study.
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fish82
Do you ever get tired of just pulling stuff out of your ass? Is there an ointment that eases the pain?sleeper;1158725 wrote:If Sales is in the journalism field, then I agree.
Then find one to refute it. I'll wait.sleeper;1158726 wrote:Plus I don't trust the study either(2009 numbers, its 2012 and doesn't include underemployed either, just employed vs. unemployed), but I do appreciate the effort in finding said study. -
sleeper
To show what? 31k is barely above minimum wage. Must be a great college investment. :rolleyes:
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sleeper
If you are happy with 31k a year, all the best. What a joke.
Graduate with 50k+ in debt to make 31k per year selling stuff over the phone. -
wkfan
As soon as you can prove me wrong, I will.sleeper;1158700 wrote:It's because they don't exist. Schools aren't posting the information, and those that do are probably lying about the data.
We do have access to their recent freshman class academic profiles. If you'd like to make the stretch that those with lower grads are more likely to receive a job after graduation than those with higher grades, I'd love to see your evidence. Otherwise, common sense will dictate that OSU is churning out more employed students at a far greater rate than OU.
Here is my evidence, I'd love to see yours:
http://undergrad.osu.edu/admissions/quick-facts.html
http://www.ohio.edu/admissions/fresh.cfm
You can admit your wrong any day now.
#sleeperwins
As of now, you have failed.
You can say that what you stated is your opinion...go ahead, it really won't hurt too much. -
sleeper
I can't wait to go to lunch today. I'm going to tell all my co-workers who make more than I do that Journalism is a quality degree. We have approximately 100 employees at this office and I guarantee none of them have a journalism degree.
Why would they? It's a joke of a degree. -
sleeper
I just did. Unless you are implying that those with worse grades are going to be more successful than those with better grades. I find that hard to believe and common sense dictates my position, not yours.wkfan;1158735 wrote:As soon as you can prove me wrong, I will.
As of now, you have failed.
You can say that what you stated is your opinion...go ahead, it really won't hurt too much. -
FatHobbit
high school grades...sleeper;1158738 wrote:I just did. Unless you are implying that those with worse grades are going to be more successful than those with better grades. I find that hard to believe and common sense dictates my position, not yours. -
wkfan
Let's see...current federal minimum wage is $7.25 per hour. Multiply that by 2,080 hours (40 hours per week * 52 weeks in a year ) yields a yearly salary of $15,080. $31K is almost twice that....hardly 'barely above minimum wage'.sleeper;1158732 wrote:To show what? 31k is barely above minimum wage. Must be a great college investment. :rolleyes:
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sleeper
ACT scores and SAT scores?FatHobbit;1158739 wrote:high school grades...
Ever heard of garbage in, garbage out? -
sleeper
LOL Yeah good point. I probably should have done the math. So it's about double minimum wage. So awesome! Sign me up. :rolleyes:wkfan;1158741 wrote:Let's see...current federal minimum wage is $7.25 per hour. Multiply that by 2,080 hours (40 hours per week * 52 weeks in a year ) yields a yearly salary of $15,080. $31K is almost twice that....hardly 'barely above minimum wage'.
You fail again! -
wkfan
Whatever helps you 'sleep' at night.sleeper;1158738 wrote:I just did. Unless you are implying that those with worse grades are going to be more successful than those with better grades. I find that hard to believe and common sense dictates my position, not yours.
(get it...it's a pun on your user name. your username is 'sleeper'.....I said 'sleep' at night.....oh, forget it. it's too much for you to wrap your head around.) -
sleeper
:thumbup:wkfan;1158745 wrote:Whatever helps you 'sleep' at night.
(get it...it's a pun on your user name. your username is 'sleeper'.....I said 'sleep' at night.....oh, forget it. it's too much for you to wrap your head around.) -
sleeper
By all means, go to OU. I don't mind having college educated servers when I go out to eat; and I'd much rather talk to someone who can write a paper at a retail store.
The world needs ditch diggers too, and no better school to pump those out than OU. -
FatHobbit
Can't argue with that science. You can apply a cliche. It must be true.sleeper;1158743 wrote:ACT scores and SAT scores?
Ever heard of garbage in, garbage out? -
sleeper
So a school who's median student has an ACT score between 21-26 is better than a school who's median student has a score between 26-30.FatHobbit;1158757 wrote:Can't argue with that science. You can apply a cliche. It must be true.
Gotcha. :rolleyes: -
FatHobbit
You have no proof. You have assumptions.sleeper;1158758 wrote:So a school who's median student has an ACT score between 21-26 is better than a school who's median student has a score between 26-30.
Gotcha. :rolleyes: -
fish82
Yeah...everyone graduates with 50K in debt. :rolleyes:sleeper;1158734 wrote:If you are happy with 31k a year, all the best. What a joke.
Graduate with 50k+ in debt to make 31k per year selling stuff over the phone.
FYI...the average base/commission pay for entry level inside sales reps is about 48K...assuming of course that you can provide one shred of evidence to back your uninformed opinion that that's where journalism majors end up.
Quick broski.....declare victory!!!
#sleeperwins!!!!!!!
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sleeper
I don't need to prove common sense. Are you making the statement that those with lower ACT scores and lower SAT scores, in the aggregate, do better than those with higher ACT and SAT scores?FatHobbit;1158760 wrote:You have no proof. You have assumptions.
If so, I lol at you and you can GTFO. -
sleeper
Why waste the effort? I can post every study in the world, it won't get through to a broken mind like yours who thinks journalism is a valuable degree or that sales is a desirable position or that OU is a school that anyone with a brain attends.fish82;1158761 wrote:Yeah...everyone graduates with 50K in debt. :rolleyes:
FYI...the average base/commission pay for entry level inside sales reps is about 48K...assuming of course that you can provide one shred of evidence to back your uninformed opinion that that's where journalism majors end up.
Quick broski.....declare victory!!!
#sleeperwins!!!!!!!
:rolleyes:
All I can do is sit here and laugh at the ignorance that is displayed time and time again by those who think the above. Small minds are incapable of anything other than small acheivements; and there's not much smaller than graduating from OU with a journalism degree. -
FatHobbit
You're argument was that there are far more OU grads that are unemployed or underemployed.sleeper;1158762 wrote:I don't need to prove common sense. Are you making the statement that those with lower ACT scores and lower SAT scores, in the aggregate, do better than those with higher ACT and SAT scores?
This was your "proof".sleeper;1158642 wrote:I'd be willing to bet, adjusted for school size of course, that far more OU grads are unemployed or underemployed than OSU grads, it wouldn't even be close. OU is one of the worst schools in the country; almost on the the SEC schools level outside of Vandy.
Originally Posted by OSU
- Ranked in top 10% of high school class: 55%
- Ranked in top 25% of high school class: 89%
- SAT Critical Reading and Math score range (middle 50%): 1170–1320
- ACT score range (middle 50%): 26–30
I.e. you have no proof. Originally Posted by OU[LEFT]To give you an idea of the level of our incoming students, here is themiddle 50 percent range for students admitted to the Fall 2010 freshman class:[/LEFT]
- Top 16-46% of their graduating high school class.
- The average composite ACT score range was 21-26.
- The average combined SAT score range was 980-1220 (math and critical reading).
- The average high school grade point average was 3.4 (on a 4.0 scale).