What's worse...

• LJ

  

  Yeah, $77,000 fine for being directly responsible for a person's death is stupid. Should be more like $770,000
  
  and I don't get the "I guess Notre Dame values a young man's life at only $77,000"
  
  That is the amount that OSHA fined ND.
• justincredible

  

  LJ;713003 wrote: and I don't get the "I guess Notre Dame values a young man's life at only $77,000"
  
  That is the amount that OSHA fined ND.

  
  You dont get trolling?
• LJ

  

  justincredible;713025 wrote:You dont get trolling?

  
  the art of trolling includes using factual information. Either that was pure stupidity, or I give the attempt a -5/10
• bases_loaded

  

  It amazes me how sleeper is still able to do it. Props to sleeper!
• GoChiefs

  

  sleeper;712987 wrote:$77,000
  
  I guess Notre Dame values a young man's life at only $77,000. What a freakin' joke.

  
  Hell, what we call a straddle buggy (the driver drives it over a bundle of steel and picks up the load of steel from underneath) hit a woman and killed her a couple of years ago. In those, the driver is sitting so high, he can't see what's directly around him at the wheels. Well, the driver had told them that the cameras around the buggy weren't working, the horn didn't work, and the reverse beeper wasn't working for a few weeks, and they never made the repairs. After OSHA completed their investigation, they fined them a whopping $1,000.
• Heretic

  

  LJ;713030 wrote:the art of trolling includes using factual information. Either that was pure stupidity, or I give the attempt a -5/10

  
  -5/10? Man, he's movin' on up. Best score in months!
• sleeper

  

  LJ;713030 wrote:the art of trolling includes using factual information. Either that was pure stupidity, or I give the attempt a -5/10

  
  Actually the art of trolling uses factual information in a distorted way. I'm well aware that Notre Dame doesn't value the kid at $77,000.
  
  Either way its still a freakin' joke. Maybe $700 million would result in a negligent coach being prevented from ever harming another innocent 20-year. It's sad when even a school that represents Catholicism can't even stand up to the almighty dollar.
• sleeper

  

  karen lotz;709507 wrote:I know. Hell they fine people $77,000 if they are found grossly negligent on the death of a innocent 20-year old

  
  Fixed.
• sleeper

  

  GoChiefs;713066 wrote:Hell, what we call a straddle buggy (the driver drives it over a bundle of steel and picks up the load of steel from underneath) hit a woman and killed her a couple of years ago. In those, the driver is sitting so high, he can't see what's directly around him at the wheels. Well, the driver had told them that the cameras around the buggy weren't working, the horn didn't work, and the reverse beeper wasn't working for a few weeks, and they never made the repairs. After OSHA completed their investigation, they fined them a whopping $1,000.

  
  +1
• O-Trap

  

  sleeper;713091 wrote:It's sad when even a school that represents Catholicism can't even stand up to the almighty dollar.

  I was just WAITING for the barb at Catholicism. You never disappoint, sleeper.
• j_crazy

  

  kelly also forced that kid from cinci st. x to drink himself to death while on spring break.
  
  
  
  seriously, give me a break.
• sleeper

  

  j_crazy;713226 wrote:kelly also forced that kid from cinci st. x to drink himself to death while on spring break.
  
  
  
  seriously, give me a break.

  Did Kelly tell that kid to drink on spring break?
  
  No, but Kelly did tell that kid to go up in HEAVY WINDS on a old rackety lift. Wow, have a heart man, he was TWENTY YEARS OLD.
• WebFire

  Nothing from sleeper surprises me. What an ignorant topic.
• karen lotz

  

  sleeper;713096 wrote:Fixed.

  
  
  Hey dicknose, OSHA fined Notre Dame with the maximum penalty allowed under state law and also found 4 other violations. I don't know how you still don't comprehend that this ruling had nothing to do with Notre Dame. They are doing their own investigation which is ongoing.
• rydawg5

  I actually agree with sleeper on this one...
  
  It's kind of like what happened a couple weeks ago. This "self motivator" guy is being charged with 3 homicides because he and a bunch of other people were in this sauna and he told no one to leave that they'd be okay. Well, 3 people left in body bags.. he is on trial for 3 counts of murder. (Everyone stayed voluntarily too) But because he was a man of power and respect, people put their trust in him, much like this poor kid put his life in the hands of the coach who ordered him on the tower in unreasonable conditions.
  
  Obviously, both guys feel terrible and directly responsible for the results...but since one is viewed as a quack, he is charged, and the other was just negligent I guess. (no crime in negligence..........)
• Thread Bomber

  

  Forget a couple emails..... 250,000.00 in unpaid leave.
  
  
  Kill a kid .....77,000.00 in OSSHA fine.......priceless.
• karen lotz

  

  Thread Bomber;713835 wrote:Forget a couple emails..... 250,000.00 in unpaid leave.
  
  
  Kill a kid .....77,000.00 in OSSHA fine.......priceless.

  
  1. No one killed the kid.
  2. The fine is the maximum allowed under state law.
  3. Notre Dame has its own investigation ongoing.
  4. They will end up paying the family probably ten times what Tressel was fined. It won't be made public so at least you and sleeper will have something to complain about.
• LJ

  

  karen lotz;713843 wrote:1. No one killed the kid.
  .

  
  Notre Dame was found to be directly responsible for his death.
• karen lotz

  

  LJ;713848 wrote:Notre Dame was found to be directly responsible for his death.

  
  Really? Thanks for the newsflash Dan Rather.
• LJ

  

  karen lotz;713850 wrote:Really?

  
  Did you not read the release????????
• karen lotz

  

  No not at all. Thanks for sharing that with me.
• LJ

  

  It was a knowing violation that directly attributed to the death.
  
  Meaning, that someone was supposed to not let them go up there, and in doing so, caused the death of the worker.
• karen lotz

  

  Kelly and Notre Dame killed Declan Sullivan as much as Tressel and Ohio State paralyzed Tyson Gentry.
• karen lotz

  

  LJ;713857 wrote:It was a knowing violation that directly attributed to the death.
  
  Meaning, that someone was supposed to not let them go up there, and in doing so, caused the death of the worker.

  
  Really? Man you really have the scoop on this one. Tell me more.
• LJ

  

  karen lotz;713861 wrote:Really? Man you really have the scoop on this one. Tell me more.

  
  You're an idiot. Are you just in denial of what the fucking regulators on workplace safety have determined through their thorough investigation? You just believe that no one was supposed to stop him and that here merely went up there on his own and unsafe work conditions did not cause his death?