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  • sleeper
    Gosh a ruddies; otrap be posting novels again.
  • O-Trap
    sleeper;1216722 wrote:Gosh a ruddies; otrap be posting novels again.
    tl;dr
  • mcburg93
    GoChiefs;1216721 wrote:Lol. So now you want infractions given for whenever someone points out to someone that they are being an idiot? Is that how nit picky you want us to be with the rules? THAT'S going to bring people to this site???

    Damn man, nobody said anything about giving you a ban or an infraction. As much as you bring it up, is that what you're TRYING to do? Will a basement ban give you inter_webz cred or something???
    I really dont want banned or anything. I just wanted to be able to have a convo but got attacked. I am pretty sure that calling someone an idiot for an idiotic thread was one of justins rules when he started the new rules enforcement. Im kinda glad another mod showed up to calm things down. According to this rule you calling me an idiot is against the rules. remember you are held to a higher standard. These rules apply to ALL forums (except The Basement):No personal attacks or unwarranted name-calling. Just because someone has a different opinion doesn't mean they're an idiot.



  • GoChiefs
    Is this where I get to use the "I'm drunk, I must have started a little early tonight?"

    You knew when you started this thread nobody was going to talk to you about it because of your past bitching, which was my original post. That wasn't an attack. You started with the attacks. Bottom line, quit your bitching, post like a normal fucking poster, and let justin worry about how the rules are enforced. If he didn't think the mods were doing what was asked of them, he would do something about it. Thats up to him, not you. If you dont like this site, you don't have to post here. You DO have a choice. Nobody makes you login.
  • O-Trap
    Can we just drop this? You two obviously don't agree with each other, but can we let this cool off for about 24 hours before coming back to it?
  • mcburg93
    Have a good evening and I am done
  • Curly J
    O-Trap;1216731 wrote:Can we just drop this? You two obviously don't agree with each other, but can we let this cool off for about 24 hours before coming back to it?
    I bid 12 hours. Who will go for 8 ???
  • O-Trap
    Any warnings and infractions that have needed doled out have been done so. Now can everyone just chill the f*** out?
  • bigdaddy2003
    I'm a little slow when it comes to the lingo. What does tl;dr mean?
  • GoChiefs
    bigdaddy2003;1216751 wrote:I'm a little slow when it comes to the lingo. What does tl;dr mean?

    Too long, didn't read.
  • bigdaddy2003
    GoChiefs;1216752 wrote:Too long, didn't read.
    Ah yes. Thanks
  • Curly J
    O-Trap;1216749 wrote:Any warnings and infractions that have needed doled out have been done so. Now can everyone just chill the f*** out?

    Aw F*ck!!!

    Oh well back at it.
  • 1_beast
    mcburg93;1216483 wrote:Some of the rules for the forum seems to be not followed very well and some not enforced very well. I know Justin wants to make the forum more enjoyable or readable for new members, but to do that the rules needs enforced a little more imo. I still see the personal attacks and people derailing threads. Yet I really dont see to much enforcing of the rules. I know its rough for some mods cause you get to be friends with people on here. It needs to be done if you want people to contribute and not be scared off. I know some of the bantering in threads are good for threads.

    I usually keep my rants and thread crapping to the basement. I follow the rules pretty well only having one warning. I do see people complaining about warnings and basement bans. From what I have read on here IMO more people should have been banned to the basement. I put this here instead of the basement hoping to get something other then the usual GFY and op is an idiot. I am curious what people think the site could do to get posters to quit the thread derailing and personal attacks to the basement.
    depends on who you are...i got infracted for swearing.....2 posts later a circle jerk pivot man was swearing like a sailor and it was overlooked......the downfall of the site will be the circle jerk, dick suckers that stroke each other on a daily basis.
  • 1_beast
    mcburg93;1216483 wrote:Some of the rules for the forum seems to be not followed very well and some not enforced very well. I know Justin wants to make the forum more enjoyable or readable for new members, but to do that the rules needs enforced a little more imo. I still see the personal attacks and people derailing threads. Yet I really dont see to much enforcing of the rules. I know its rough for some mods cause you get to be friends with people on here. It needs to be done if you want people to contribute and not be scared off. I know some of the bantering in threads are good for threads.

    I usually keep my rants and thread crapping to the basement. I follow the rules pretty well only having one warning. I do see people complaining about warnings and basement bans. From what I have read on here IMO more people should have been banned to the basement. I put this here instead of the basement hoping to get something other then the usual GFY and op is an idiot. I am curious what people think the site could do to get posters to quit the thread derailing and personal attacks to the basement.
    YOU ARE EXACTLY CORRECT...and it is because you aren't "one of the guys'

    hasbeen;1216546 wrote:a legit question? as i posted above, it's the same damn bitching you've been doing all year. as go chiefs said, noone cares about what you think because you post a new thread every day.
    fact of the matter is, the site is better. is it perfect? but it's the god damn internet, not suppose to be perfect.
    I was warned for swearing IN SERIOUS BUSINESS...yet you use The Lord's Name in Vain.....and it is ok
    password;1216557 wrote:WTF does my race have to do with this thread? You are insinuating that people of color are the problem on here, rmolin and myself do not appreciate your racist comments and would hope that you can refrain from anymore comments about our skin color.
    rmolin aint a douchebag,,,,call Jesse Jackson if YOU are gonna try to play the race card
    mcburg93;1216580 wrote:As I said originally this thread proves how people are on this site. Would rather attack the op/me instead of adding to the thread or asking me why I start these dumb threads and could i stop. I enjoyed bickering with you all and thanks for proving my point.

    Good luck on getting people to come here when crap like this happens.
    EXACTLY!!! This is a sinking ship due to lack of respect and control
    GoChiefs;1216594 wrote:It would probably be taken a little more serious if it had been started by someone other than you. Your constant whining has run it's course, and I don't think anyone cares about your little rants anymore. Bitching about the mods has become your 'niche' on this website. Therefor, nobody will take you seriously. That's your fault. Not the mods.

    And to further prove my point...





    Great job guessing!

    Why you single out WCAL Football talk......Thats bullshit
    hasbeen;1216621 wrote:Another puppet master. Lame act is lame.
    pot meet kettle
    like_that;1216623 wrote:For ****s sake mcburg, make up your mind. You either bitch and moan about the mods/rules or you bitch and moan about other people QQing.

    WOW...LMFAO Talk about crying....I'll just leave this alone, good luck in your good ol boy contest, just remember....BEAST BEAT YOUR ASS!!!! So QQ some more runner up
    mcburg93;1216640 wrote:These rules apply to ALL forums (except The Basement):
    1. No personal attacks or unwarranted name-calling. Just because someone has a different opinion doesn't mean they're an idiot.
    2. Do not continually harass other members (this includes moderators).
    3. Do not aggressively troll a thread with the sole purpose of derailing it.
    4. Do not reveal anyone's identity.
    5. No swearing in thread titles.
    6. Do not post NSFW pictures (half naked women, etc) in threads without a NSFW tag in the title.
    7. No pornography or gore.
    by some of the previous posts I will help you all remember the rules

    only applies to the folks that are not in the "club"
    THE4RINGZ;1216673 wrote:I believe the OP has a seemingly valid point. For example: I recieved an infraction for using the word bitch in a post on the HS forum, yet nearly every other thread gets derailed these days. So, is there some criteria defining what violations of the stated rules recieve infractions or warnings, and which ones don't? I realize it is a subjective decision made by a particular moderator, but consistency needs to be the key.

    Was my use of the word bitch more detrimental to this site than the same handful of posters turning every thread into a pissing match?
    Nailed it
    GoChiefs;1216676 wrote:Swearing in the High School forums is pretty cut and dry. There is no subjective decisions needed to be made by any moderator.

    Whatever...watch closer.
    THE4RINGZ;1216678 wrote:No it isn't please provide a list of acceptable swear words in that forum because it seems rather murky with what is and isn't allowed.
    yup

    THE4RINGZ;1216690 wrote:Bitch is no more out of bounds than ass, hell, or damn. And I used it in the sense of "quit bitching" I was not calling someone a bitch.

    Answer my question...how is that more detrimental than every ****ing thread turning into a sixth grade girls drama fest? Think big picture and the future of this site.
    If you are in the circle jerk...you're safe.
  • like_that
    1_beast;1216761 wrote:YOU ARE EXACTLY CORRECT...and it is because you aren't "one of the guys'



















    WOW...LMFAO Talk about crying....I'll just leave this alone, good luck in your good ol boy contest, just remember....BEAST BEAT YOUR ASS!!!! So QQ some more runner up



    only applies to the folks that are not in the "club"



    Nailed it





    If you are in the circle jerk...you're safe.
    My post obviously went over your head too. The point isn't about Mcburg QQing, the point is he contradicts himself. One minute he bitches about the rules, the next minute he is calling someone out for QQing about the rules. I shouldn't be surprised this concept would be tough for people like you to comprehend.

    Anyway, please proceed QQing about how you aren't "one of the guys." It is quite comical. Are you going to drunkenly post at 5 on a Monday morning again to QQ? I can't wait for another one of your PM's trying to buddy up with me. /sarcasm
  • Raw Dawgin' it
    Who are the "in crowd users?" Just curious.
  • hasbeen
    1_beast;1216761 wrote:

    I was warned for swearing IN SERIOUS BUSINESS...yet you use The Lord's Name in Vain.....and it is ok


    pot meet kettle

    If you were warned for swearing in serious business, somebody fucked up.

    And I have an act?
  • sleeper
    Everyone on this site has an act. Even Con_Alma. Con_Alma's job is to tell us how to live our lives the appropriate way; o-trap's job is to write novels that no one but himself reads. LJ is Google, etc.Play your part or Go Find Yourself.
  • fan_from_texas
    I appreciate the insight on the thread here, as getting your guys' views helps us figure out how tightly to moderate things.

    As far as I can tell from reading the mod forum, there's no conspiracy to screw certain users or treat people differently. The rules have some grey area. We don't see every post on the site, so it's helpful when posts are reported. We take a look at them, we talk them over in the mod forum, we try to reach a consensus on how to treat the post, and then we act. It's difficult for numerous moderators to coordinate all actions perfectly, so there are going to be inconsistencies in how some things are moderated. That isn't because anyone is biased (as far as I can tell from the comments in the mod forum); it's because it's unrealistic to expect every single person on the OC to view every potential rules infraction in exactly the same way.

    The trick we've been dealing with is that not all insults/namecalling are the same. We don't want to moderate everything to death and stifle innocent humor. E.g., there's a fine line between trolling and a meme (here's to you, "first"). The fact that some mods see it one way and other mods see it another isn't indicative of bias; it shows that we're human and reasonably disagree. Obviously, it would be best if every moderator and every user agreed exactly on every item, but that's a bit unrealistic to expect.

    Like I've said before, the inconsistencies in moderation more likely arise from borderline incompetence, not from malice or bias.
  • Raw Dawgin' it
    fan_from_texas;1216834 wrote:I appreciate the insight on the thread here, as getting your guys' views helps us figure out how tightly to moderate things.

    As far as I can tell from reading the mod forum, there's no conspiracy to screw certain users or treat people differently. The rules have some grey area. We don't see every post on the site, so it's helpful when posts are reported. We take a look at them, we talk them over in the mod forum, we try to reach a consensus on how to treat the post, and then we act. It's difficult for numerous moderators to coordinate all actions perfectly, so there are going to be inconsistencies in how some things are moderated. That isn't because anyone is biased (as far as I can tell from the comments in the mod forum); it's because it's unrealistic to expect every single person on the OC to view every potential rules infraction in exactly the same way.

    The trick we've been dealing with is that not all insults/namecalling are the same. We don't want to moderate everything to death and stifle innocent humor. E.g., there's a fine line between trolling and a meme (here's to you, "first"). The fact that some mods see it one way and other mods see it another isn't indicative of bias; it shows that we're human and reasonably disagree. Obviously, it would be best if every moderator and every user agreed exactly on every item, but that's a bit unrealistic to expect.

    Like I've said before, the inconsistencies in moderation more likely arise from borderline incompetence, not from malice or bias.
    This thread should be merged with this one http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?35138-Rules-enforcement&p=1216821#post1216821
  • DeadliestWarrior34
    Raw Dawgin' it;1216770 wrote:Who are the "in crowd users?" Just curious.

    All posters except for those who post in HS football apparently.
  • j_crazy
    fan_from_texas;1216834 wrote:I appreciate the insight on the thread here, as getting your guys' views helps us figure out how tightly to moderate things.

    As far as I can tell from reading the mod forum, there's no conspiracy to screw certain users or treat people differently. The rules have some grey area. We don't see every post on the site, so it's helpful when posts are reported. We take a look at them, we talk them over in the mod forum, we try to reach a consensus on how to treat the post, and then we act. It's difficult for numerous moderators to coordinate all actions perfectly, so there are going to be inconsistencies in how some things are moderated. That isn't because anyone is biased (as far as I can tell from the comments in the mod forum); it's because it's unrealistic to expect every single person on the OC to view every potential rules infraction in exactly the same way.

    The trick we've been dealing with is that not all insults/namecalling are the same. We don't want to moderate everything to death and stifle innocent humor. E.g., there's a fine line between trolling and a meme (here's to you, "first"). The fact that some mods see it one way and other mods see it another isn't indicative of bias; it shows that we're human and reasonably disagree. Obviously, it would be best if every moderator and every user agreed exactly on every item, but that's a bit unrealistic to expect.

    Like I've said before, the inconsistencies in moderation more likely arise from borderline incompetence, not from malice or bias.

    This is where I have a problem, if you're a mod Justin trusts you to judge the users. Act on your gut and fuck the mod forum for consensus. Maybe a gray area post here or there, but act and if someone bitches (and the post warrants it)have everyone look and judge. People would chill out on the bullshit if you did that.
  • DeadliestWarrior34
    O-Trap;1216731 wrote:Can we just drop this? You two obviously don't agree with each other, but can we let this cool off for about 24 hours before coming back to it?
  • Heretic
    DeadliestWarrior34;1216874 wrote:All posters except for those who post in HS football apparently.
    "Out" crowd: Wayne County Mafia, Steubenville.

    "In" crowd: Everyone else.

    Hope this helps.
  • Raw Dawgin' it
    DeadliestWarrior34;1216874 wrote:All posters except for those who post in HS football apparently.
    Users claim there is an "in crowd" I'm curious to know which posters think are part of it, it'd be an interesting list.