George Zimmerman recreates the Trayvon Martin shooting

• Al Bundy

  ccrunner609;1215829 wrote:I am reporting this post.....you calling me a racist? I am not even close.

  He called you a Zimmerman, not a racist
• rmolin73

  

  ccrunner609;1215829 wrote:I am reporting this post.....you calling me a racist? I am not even close.

  Well good for you report away with your your sensitive ass. Post #87 should set you straight.
• hasbeen

  

  Big_Mirg_ZHS;1215818 wrote:Seriously it carries the same penalty as running a stop sign or speeding. Its not weak sauce it is a valid argument.

  Not exactly. Marijuana is far more likely to land you in jail. Running a stop sign or speeding will end up in you not have a license, in severe cases.
  
  And I'm pro-marijuana.
  

  Big_Mirg_ZHS;1215819 wrote:BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED IT TM was WHITE

  Question: Zimmerman had a history of violent behavior and shit like this, were they all black kids?
• Glory Days

  

  Big_Mirg_ZHS;1215781 wrote:Well i mean seriously what threat was trayvon and why did Z feel the need to follow him?? GZ just goes home like a normal person this doesnt happen.

  very naive to think criminals walk around with guns or crowbars looking to rob people or break into things even when they plan to commit those crimes.
• Speedofsand

  

  Here is the complete "VIOLENT CRIMINAL HISTORY" for GZ. He pushed a guy in a bar! (Allegedly)
  
  In 2005, George Zimmerman — 21 at the time — was at a bar near the University of Central Florida when a friend was arrested by state alcohol agents on suspicion of serving underage drinkers, according to an arrest report.
  
  
  Zimmerman was talking with his friend, became profane and pushed an agent who tried to escort him away, the report said. Authorities said he was arrested after a short struggle.
  Charged with resisting arrest without violence, he avoided conviction by entering a pretrial-diversion program, something common for first-time offenders.
  
  A month later, court records show, a woman filed a petition for an injunction against Zimmerman, citing domestic violence. It's unclear what led to the petition, but Zimmerman responded by filing a petition of his own the following day.
  
  Records show injunctions were later issued in both cases. Reached by email, the woman would not comment on her past with Zimmerman or his current situation.
  
  
  ...so his friend was getting harassed/roughed up by a couple of guys who were not uniformed cops. GZ defends his friend, just like any bro in a bar is going to do. When it became clear they were law enforcement, he stopped. IF he ever shoved the agent in the first place. I've read the report was 'enhanced' like cops often do.
  ...............................
  
  http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2012/4/2/Troia-Zimmerman-justice/
  
  Did Zimmerman racially profile Martin in judging him “suspicious”? Here the distinction between racial profiling and holistic profiling is relevant. Zimmerman’s friend Frank Taaffe said young black males had committed a string of recent robberies in the diverse neighborhood. If Martin fit the profile of these specific suspects, was unfamiliar in the neighborhood, and was acting strangely in Zimmerman’s mind by walking behind houses, Zimmerman’s judgment was appropriate.
  
  There are three eyewitnesses in the case; two corroborate Zimmerman’s account. One says he saw Zimmerman, below Martin, crying for help while Martin beat him. Austin Brown, a black teenager, says he saw Zimmerman on the ground “moaning and crying for help.” Brown’s mother has since said police pressured him into giving more information than he remembered, but he repeated the claim afterwards. She may simply be concerned that her son will suffer backlash like Joe Oliver, a black supporter of Zimmerman, who says he has a “target on my back.” A third eyewitness says it was too dark to tell who was who.
  
  Only non-eyewitnesses to the scuffle have corroborated Martin’s family’s account.
  
  
  
  Martin was repeatedly suspended from school, including for graffiti; was found with 12 pieces of women’s jewelry and a screwdriver in his backpack, a possible burglary tool; or that he might have punched a bus driver. The Martin family’s attorney said Trayvon’s past was “irrelevant,” yet has highlighted Zimmerman’s criminal history.
• Con_Alma

  Yep. He's violent but the question is did he break the law and can it be proved.
• rmolin73

  

  Lol speedofsand thats a lot of mights and possibles. The bottom line is this both of them weren't angels to try and make one sound worse than the other is moronic.
• mella

  hasbeen;1215942 wrote:Not exactly. Marijuana is far more likely to land you in jail. Running a stop sign or speeding will end up in you not have a license, in severe cases.

  Running a stop sign and speeding is worse than marijuana. Running a stop sign or speeding can kill someone. Smoking marijuana in your house won't kill anyone.
• Con_Alma

  mella;1216061 wrote:Running a stop sign and speeding is worse than marijuana. Running a stop sign or speeding can kill someone. Smoking marijuana in your house won't kill anyone.

  How does one being worse than the other matter? They are illegal.
• rmolin73

  

  ccrunner609;1215809 wrote:LOL, dont bring the weak sause in here.

  sauce*
• GOONx19

  

  ccrunner609;1216067 wrote:I am now dumber for reading posts like this

  True posts?
• mella

  I think the possible outcome of crimes makes them easy to define as one being worse than another. Both illegal, but the potential to kill makes running a stop sign a worse offense than smoking marijuana.
  
  And this has nothing to do with GZ being a piece of crap. He may or may not have broken the law. A jury will decide that.
• mella

  ccrunner609;1216067 wrote:I am now dumber for reading posts like this

  Boy, I better sign off now that I have made a possible racists dumber. Good night.
• rmolin73

  

  ccrunner609;1216067 wrote:I am now dumber for reading posts like this

  Not possible
• Speedofsand

  

  rmolin73;1216060 wrote:Lol speedofsand thats a lot of mights and possibles. The bottom line is this both of them weren't angels to try and make one sound worse than the other is moronic.

  what mights and possibles? Anyone saying GZ has a "violent criminal history" is full of shit. He was arrested once, by someone you wouldn't know was a cop until it was too late. He had pre trial intervention for first offenders and thats it. No conviction.
  
  Martin, aka No Limit Nigga, was a wannabe thug just as much as GZ was a wannabe cop.
• rmolin73

  

  Speedofsand;1216089 wrote:what mights and possibles? Anyone saying GZ has a "violent criminal history" is full of ****. He was arrested once, by someone you wouldn't know was a cop until it was too late. He had pre trial intervention for first offenders and thats it. No conviction.
  
  Martin, aka No Limit Nigga, was a wannabe thug just as much as GZ was a wannabe cop.

  Where have I disputed any of the above? What I keep saying and it appears to be falling on deaf ears or in this case blind readers. Is to paint either one worse or better is moronic. Keep up the good work. Read your own posts for the possibles and maybes.
• Speedofsand

  

  They are facts. Maybe its possible that you can't provide an example of what you meant.
• rmolin73

  

  Speedofsand;1216092 wrote:They are facts. Maybe its possible that you can't provide an example of what you meant.

  When did mights and possibles become facts? Post #120 your own words. I'm done I don't know who's worse you or the gymnasium major.
• hasbeen

  

  mella;1216061 wrote:Running a stop sign and speeding is worse than marijuana. Running a stop sign or speeding can kill someone. Smoking marijuana in your house won't kill anyone.

  
  I was talking about the law. Don't try to change your stance.
• Speedofsand

  

  rmolin73;1216096 wrote:When did mights and possibles become facts? Post #120 your own words. I'm done I don't know who's worse you or the gymnasium major.

  only one paragraph of that is my own words. Get back to me after you've read everything in the Orlando Sentinel about this case. Don't LOL thats alot of possibles and maybes without backing it up.
  I see the Orlando news everyday. Joe Oliver is an honest educated man, used to be a ch 9 news reporter. He is a friend of GZ, and was threatened for being fair minded and not marching with Al & Jesse.
• rmolin73

  

  Speedofsand;1216119 wrote:only one paragraph of that is my own words. Get back to me after you've read everything in the Orlando Sentinel about this case. Don't LOL thats alot of possibles and maybes without backing it up.
  I see the Orlando news everyday. Joe Oliver is an honest educated man, used to be a ch 9 news reporter. He is a friend of GZ, and was threatened for being fair minded and not marching with Al & Jesse.

  SMH you're losing yourself in your own words. You posted the following about Martin after your diatribe regarding Zimmermans arrest record which you downplayed.
  
  "Martin was repeatedly suspended from school, including for graffiti; was found with 12 pieces of women’s jewelry and a screwdriver in his backpack, a possible burglary tool; or that he might have punched a bus driver. The Martin family’s attorney said Trayvon’s past was “irrelevant,” yet has highlighted Zimmerman’s criminal history."
  
  So there are a few mights and possibles in your posts. When did mights and possibles become facts? Once again show me where I am defending anyone? All I'm saying is those such as ccrunner and yourself are coming off sounding like morons. By trying to paint TM as the villain who's actions led to his death. I'll wait for the courts to decide Zimmermans fate not the media or his friends. Because they've never been wrong or biased before lol. Keep up the good work though.
• Speedofsand

  

  LOL so by posting a link and a paragraph from the link, you say I come off as a moron. LMAO. The article was being politically correct saying 'possible' burglary tool and 'might' have punched a bus driver.
  His own family member tweeted about TM punching a bus driver. Its a fact he had stolen jewelry. Its a fact he was suspended from school repeatedly and changed schools from one year to the next. Its a fact if he had not been suspended he would have been in Miami and not Sanford, so his actions did lead to his death. The courts have already released plenty of evidence, two media attorneys were at the latest bond hearing, some of the media know how to get the facts. I've seen enough to know GZ should walk. At the first bond hearing when O'Mara pwned the state by putting them on the stand and proving they can't prove who the aggressor was.
  Innocent until proven guilty.
• rmolin73

  

  So Zimmermans actions didn't? Keep burying yourself.
• Speedofsand

  

  rmolin73;1216171 wrote:So Zimmermans actions didn't? Keep burying yourself.

  You said the link was my own words. You keep dodging the point. Keep ignoring the facts and burying your own self. There is plenty of evidence already out there. Some of GZ's actions contributed to TM's death. That's all 'coulda woulda shoulda' hindsight by the biased Martin supporters, which you keep making yourself look like. No way the state proves he went out to kill anyone.
• rmolin73

  

  A link? Maybe we'll call it a cut and paste job. Everything that you stated regarding TM's actions that led to his death emphatically but yet in regards to Zimmermans actions its coulda, woulda, shoulda? Come on dude you have to be better than that but maybe not. I have never stated that Zimmerman didn't kill Martin in self defense have I? I support neither one no matter how you may hope that I do. Unlike you and your boy cc I can be impartial. If both of them had not thought that they were bad asses we wouldn't be having this conversation. Refute that!