Help from all the fitness dudes of the OC

• BR1986FB

  ccrunner609;1195193 wrote:I will not engage in arguments about exercise. I know what i know.

  Which is nothing. You also do know that when you STOP running, the "fat burning element" stops where it continues on, throughout the day, when running sprints?
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Running's Rewards And Risks: Running reduces the risks of heart disease and diabetes, helps maintain your weight and improves brain health. "There's very good science that running for even 30 minutes or so doubles the number of brain cells in certain portions of the brain related to memory," says Reynolds. "Running is wonderful for the health of your body." But the injury rate among runners, she cautions, is extremely high — with as many as 75 percent of runners getting one injury a year. "So running can be very hard on the body at the same time it's very good for the body," she says.
  
  Humans Were Made For Walking: Walking may be the single best exercise that exists on the planet, Reynolds says. It's low-impact and has a relatively low risk for injury. "Walking appears to be what the human body was built for," she explains. Even 15 minutes will reduce your risk for heart disease and diabetes.
• OneBuckeye

  

  ccrunner609;1195193 wrote:It is amazing how much people think they know. You do realize that if I were to walk 45 minutes at 4mph or run 20 minutes at 6mph....I would burn more calories in half the time? You do know that dont you? Also, walking is ineffective in making permanent physiological changes like stroke volume of the left ventricle, capillary bed density, mitochondrial formation, nerve fiber conduction. You do know that dont you?
  
  I will not engage in arguments about exercise. I know what i know.

  Activity	Calories burned
  Running 6 mph	274
  Walking 4 mph	316
  Total Calories Burned	589

  First. You are wrong about the calories. Second it isn't about calories it's about burning fat, and how long after the workout you are burning fat.
  
  http://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/cbc
• BR1986FB

  ccrunner609;1195200 wrote:Oh please, economical running on a soft surface and wearing proper shoes isnt going to "beat the hell" out of anyone. We arent talking about marathon training. We are talking about jogging around for 20-30 minutes to maximize fat burn and ramp up overall metabolism. Lets not confuse this thread with talking about running 40-50 miles a week.
  
  Now you talk about diet and carbs. What you do to refill the coffers after a workout isnt exclusive to "running". If you eat like shit after any workout you are going to see no improvement in muscle appearance.

  You're still going to be better off walking or running sprints and tightening up the diet.
• BR1986FB

  ccrunner609;1195202 wrote:you do realize that sprints are purely anaerobic dont you? That means you are burning fuel at the cellular level with the presence of oxygen. For cells to metabolize fats for energy you must be aerobic.

  So explain to me why distance runners look like emanciate Ethiopians while sprints look like muscular thoroughbread racehorses? The longer you stay in steady state cardio the MORE muscle you will burn off.
• BR1986FB

  ccrunner609;1195205 wrote:we can all sit around and post internet BS all day. that doesnt mean anything

  An neither does the voodoo bullsh#t you're trying to fill this guys head with. Not EVERYONE was made for distance running while everyone WAS made for walking.
• justincredible

  

  Just wanted to drop in and leave a reminder to keep the disagreement on walking/running civil.
• justincredible

  

  ccrunner609;1195207 wrote:walking causes you to spend way too much time doing the same thing that running can do in 1/3rd of the time/

  Walking has absolutely no negative impact to your joints. Running does.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  ccrunner609;1195205 wrote:we can all sit around and post internet BS all day. that doesnt mean anything

  What about what I posted is BS and you disagree with?
• BR1986FB

  justincredible;1195213 wrote:Walking has absolutely no negative impact to your joints. Running does.

  Exactly.
  
  Most people don't want to beat the Hell out of their body running. Can get better results by walking and lifting heavy. Believe me, as you get older and testosterone starts rapidly decreasing, you will want to fight to keep as much hard earned muscle as possible. Why eat up that hard earned muscle with steady state cardio (running)?
• BR1986FB

  Commander of Awesome;1195218 wrote:What about what I posted is BS and you disagree with?

  It's not wrong.
• like_that

  

  What if you mix it up though? I feel like you guys (BR/Buckeye) are referring to people who jog every day. I tend to get a 7 mile run in about 3 times a week. Other days I am doing insanity, or stair sprints.
  
  Thoughts?
• BR1986FB

  like_that;1195225 wrote:What if you mix it up though? I feel like you guys (BR/Buckeye) are referring to people who jog every day. I tend to get a 7 mile run in about 3 times a week. Other days I am doing insanity, or stair sprints.
  
  Thoughts?

  Guess it depends on what type of "look" you're going for.
• OneBuckeye

  

  like_that;1195225 wrote:What if you mix it up though? I feel like you guys (BR/Buckeye) are referring to people who jog every day. I tend to get a 7 mile run in about 3 times a week. Other days I am doing insanity, or stair sprints.
  
  Thoughts?

  Seems like a lot of working out to me. What are your goals?
• justincredible

  

  ccrunner609;1195228 wrote:and walking makes almost no physiological changes to the body. Burns a few calories and takes 45+ minutes a day to do that. I would rather jog for 20 minutes and burn more calories in less time. Like I said, we were talking about jogging a little to burn calories. We arent talking about marathon training,

  Using this calculator (http://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/cbc) I got the following results:
  
  As a 190lb man I would burn 302 calories jogging for 30 minutes.
  I would burn 222 calories walking for 30 minutes.
  
  If I up my walk to 45 minutes I burn 333 calories.
  
  I'd rather walk for 45 minutes than run for 30. And I'd burn more calories in the process. And I don't slowly kill my joints.
• like_that

  

  OneBuckeye;1195231 wrote:Seems like a lot of working out to me. What are your goals?

  6 times a week. No real goals, just maintain my weight in the mid to upper 70's.
• Glory Days

  

  justincredible;1195239 wrote:Using this calculator (http://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/cbc) I got the following results:
  
  As a 190lb man I would burn 302 calories jogging for 30 minutes.
  I would burn 222 calories walking for 30 minutes.
  
  If I up my walk to 45 minutes I burn 333 calories.
  
  I'd rather walk for 45 minutes than run for 30. And I'd burn more calories in the process. And I don't slowly kill my joints.

  thats all fine and dandy, until the zombie apocalypse when walking isnt fast enough anymore!
• Sonofanump

  OneBuckeye;1195231 wrote:Seems like a lot of working out to me. What are your goals?

  To look like BR1986.
• justincredible

  

  Glory Days;1195250 wrote:thats all fine and dandy, until the zombie apocalypse when walking isnt fast enough anymore!

  If it's a Walking Dead situation I'll be okay. If the zombies can run I'd just kill myself anyway.
• justincredible

  

  ccrunner609;1195256 wrote:Like I said, wear proper shoes and run on soft surfaces and running 30 minutes a day doesnt kill your joints. Your 45 minutes of walking doesnt ramp your Basal metabolic rate like a higher aerobic exercise like running. your 45 minutes of walking burns 45 minutes of calories and that is about it. my running increases my metabolic rate for hours afterward. I burn more calories sleeping at night by running then if I just walked.

  How about this. I'll walk for 30 minutes and then do 5 minutes of sprints.
• Sonofanump

  I personally hate running, but do it. Walking is rather boring. I'd rather bike or swim which are easier on the joints. What do you experts think about that?
• BR1986FB

  justincredible;1195258 wrote:How about this. I'll walk for 30 minutes and then do 5 minutes of sprints.

  And you'll burn more fat. The sprinting alone will trump the distance running.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  I swim up waterfalls.
• Sonofanump

  UR a salmon?
• ernest_t_bass

  

  I burn mega calories.