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Manhattan Buckeye

"That means he knows "all" about the game and what it takes to be a quality player. "

I don't need to be a quality player. I'm not scoring. I just need to screw up the game and watch the soccer weenies whine...or even get violent. The only punch I've ever taken was in a game with my roommate who was so frustrated with me kicking the ball away from him that he lost his composure. Not a big deal, I had a black eye for a few days, we had beers afterwards, it still doesn't detract from the fact that a good basketball team picks its score against any soccer squad that has never touched a basketball before. They might not even get past half-court.

gorocks99

Manhattan Buckeye;1135382 wrote:I've done it, pro players, no. But I'm no Rajon Rondo or Lebron James. I've played against all-state (Texas) soccer players, they'll beat me every time, but they aren't scoring 20 on me. Not when I'm sending the ball in the other direction every time I get a chance.

Again, this is based on experience. I've pissed off many fraternity brothers with this. Yeah, they'll beat us 3-0, maybe 4-0 on a good day, in basketball we pick our score. And as usual the soccer weenies chime in with their crap....you can DISRUPT the game. Do you even understand the meaning of the term disrupt?

Messi scores at least 8 goals in a game against NBA all-stars, book it. I'd be willing to bet the NBA all-stars would be down to 10 men within the first 10 minutes...try to disrupt but end up making dangerous challenges.

Manhattan Buckeye

If it is a dangerous challenge, Messi is gone, unless he's pulling a fake injury.

like_that

Manhattan Buckeye;1135382 wrote:I've done it, pro players, no. But I'm no Rajon Rondo or Lebron James. I've played against all-state (Texas) soccer players, they'll beat me every time, but they aren't scoring 20 on me. Not when I'm sending the ball in the other direction every time I get a chance.

Again, this is based on experience. I've pissed off many fraternity brothers with this. Yeah, they'll beat us 3-0, maybe 4-0 on a good day, in basketball we pick our score. And as usual the soccer weenies chime in with their crap....you can DISRUPT the game. Do you even understand the meaning of the term disrupt?

I wrestled. There have been numerous bball players who wanted to wrestle me, because they were delusional and thought they could take me down. Not one single bball player came close to taking me down, and no bball player will ever come close to taking me down or coming within 15 pts of me in a match (15 pt win= techfall which is a mercy rule).

In college I would play around and play bball. I guarded my friend who was an all state PG. I disrupted the game enough to piss him off.

Not one single NBA player would score a takedown on any world class wrestler, but based on your logic, since I was able to do it, a group of world class wrestlers would disrupt a NBA team of all stars.

Please just quit while you are ahead before you make yourself look more like an idiot.

Manhattan Buckeye

like_that;1135394 wrote:I wrestled. There have been numerous bball players who wanted to wrestle me, because they were delusional and thought they could take me down. Not one single bball player came close to taking me down, and no bball player will ever come close to taking me down or coming within 15 pts of me in a match (15 pt win= techfall which is a mercy rule).

In college I would play around and play bball. I guarded my friend who was an all state PG. I disrupted the game enough to piss him off.

Not one single NBA player would score a takedown on any world class wrestler, but based on your logic, since I was able to do it, a group of world class wrestlers would disrupt a NBA team of all stars.

Please just quit while you are ahead before you make yourself look more like an idiot.

I'm sorry, I missed the point where wrestling = soccer. Explain it to me. I'm an idiot. Are we discussing wrestling? Did I miss that memo?

like_that

Manhattan Buckeye;1135396 wrote:I'm sorry, I missed the point where wrestling = soccer. Explain it to me. I'm an idiot. Are we discussing wrestling? Did I miss that memo?

I see the correlation went over your head. Just because you "disrupted" the game with a fellow all state soccer player, doesn't mean NBA players could disrupt a soccer game against world class soccer players.

No one is arguing who the better athletes are, but you are completely delusional. Do you realize Chad Johnson tried out for one of the worst MLS teams in the league (MLS is not even close to being on par with the best leagues), and he looked like a complete fool playing in their PRACTOCE SQUAD scrimmage, despite the fact he is more athetically gifted than all those guys combined.

If you want to keep preaching your bs, go ahead, but you are just further making yourself look like a delusional idiot.

Now cue you responding with a "where did I say anything about NFL players?"

Automatik

Manhattan Buckeye;1135396 wrote:I'm sorry, I missed the point where wrestling = soccer. Explain it to me. I'm an idiot. Are we discussing wrestling? Did I miss that memo?

It's about as logical as your soccer/bball comparison.

I feel dumber for taking part in this conversation.

Zoltan

Manhattan Buckeye;1135382 wrote:I've done it, pro players, no. But I'm no Rajon Rondo or Lebron James. I've played against all-state (Texas) soccer players, they'll beat me every time, but they aren't scoring 20 on me. Not when I'm sending the ball in the other direction every time I get a chance.

Again, this is based on experience. I've pissed off many fraternity brothers with this. Yeah, they'll beat us 3-0, maybe 4-0 on a good day, in basketball we pick our score. And as usual the soccer weenies chime in with their crap....you can DISRUPT the game. Do you even understand the meaning of the term disrupt?

Winning 3-0, 4-0 in soccer is naming your score. That is a blowout, and I am sure watching the game play out when the pro’s have all the possession, and NBA players run themselves dead chasing the ball would make 4-0 look even more humiliating. Also it would be much more than 4-0.</SPAN>

Saying you have Lebron James type guys playing soccer sounds good and well, but unless he is playing goalie it will not happen. Soccer players are built like “weenies,” or distance runners for a reason. You cannot carry that much muscle and keep running for 90+ minutes. A more explosion based sport with structured breaks in the action such as basketball? Yes. High level soccer? Not so much. </SPAN>

Manhattan Buckeye

Automatik;1135401 wrote:It's about as logical as your soccer/bball comparison.

I feel dumber for taking part in this conversation.

The comparison is the argument. Why do you feel dumber? You realize you are making my point, say something bad about soccer and the weenies clam up. How about making an argument? Is that difficult?

If I said LeBron James would be a world class shot-putter because he's a great basketball player there would be many arguments explaining why that is a poor comparison (I'd make a great one). That hasn't happened on this thread, or any other threads when people make arguments (again, you can agree, or disagree) about the skills, or non-skills (in my case) regarding soccer. The only answer so far is ad hominem attacks and nothing addressing the topic at hand. Can a soccer player disrupt a basketball game? No, and hell no.

like_that

Manhattan Buckeye;1135403 wrote:The comparison is the argument. Why do you feel dumber? You realize you are making my point, say something bad about soccer and the weenies clam up. How about making an argument? Is that difficult?

If I said LeBron James would be a world class shot-putter because he's a great basketball player there would be many arguments explaining why that is a poor comparison (I'd make a great one). That hasn't happened on this thread, or any other threads when people make arguments (again, you can agree, or disagree) about the skills, or non-skills (in my case) regarding soccer. The only answer so far is ad hominem attacks and nothing addressing the topic at hand. Can a soccer player disrupt a basketball game? No, and hell no.

Link?

Manhattan Buckeye

Zoltan;1135402 wrote:Winning 3-0, 4-0 in soccer is naming your score. That is a blowout, and I am sure watching the game play out when the pro’s have all the possession, and NBA players run themselves dead chasing the ball would make 4-0 look even more humiliating. Also it would be much more than 4-0.

Saying you have Lebron James type guys playing soccer sounds good and well, but unless he is playing goalie it will not happen. Soccer players are built like “weenies,” or distance runners for a reason. You cannot carry that much muscle and keep running for 90+ minutes. A more explosion based sport with structured breaks in the action such as basketball? Yes. High level soccer? Not so much.

Thank you. That is at least an argument.

I don't agree with all of it, particularly the 90 minute part. From what I've seen with soccer they have a break at the 45 minute mark, and often they walk or stand around, it isn't a 90 minute half-marathon.

gorocks99

A world-class soccer player could disrupt a basketball game, but would get run over (relatively) in a game against world-class basketball players.

A world-class basketball player could disrupt a soccer game, but would get run over (relatively) in a game against world-class soccer players.

The skill sets and tools to succeed are different enough in the sports that pure athleticism wouldn't be enough for either crossover team to avoid getting rolled.

Manhattan Buckeye

like_that;1135405 wrote:Link?

I don't need a link, I know the rules. You have to cross the half-court in 10 seconds, you have a 5 second rule while handling the ball while the defense is engaged, another 5 seconds while not dribbling. You have to move or pass the ball. There are lines you must, or cannot cross. If one makes a fouling move, after 5 you are removed from the contest, and in certain situations the person you fouled is entitled to a free throw. If you throw the ball out of bounds, it goes directly to the opposition's possession, if you can't stop them you have to foul (see earlier).

If no one has ever played basketball before, they cannot disrupt the game. They'll lose by whatever score the experienced team chooses.

Manhattan Buckeye

"A world-class soccer player could disrupt a basketball game, but would get run over (relatively) in a game against world-class basketball players."

By doing what?

Automatik

Manhattan Buckeye;1135403 wrote:The comparison is the argument. Why do you feel dumber? You realize you are making my point, say something bad about soccer and the weenies clam up. How about making an argument? Is that difficult?

If I said LeBron James would be a world class shot-putter because he's a great basketball player there would be many arguments explaining why that is a poor comparison (I'd make a great one). That hasn't happened on this thread, or any other threads when people make arguments (again, you can agree, or disagree) about the skills, or non-skills (in my case) regarding soccer. The only answer so far is ad hominem attacks and nothing addressing the topic at hand. Can a soccer player disrupt a basketball game? No, and hell no.

lol who is clammed up?

Who gives a fuck if you can "disrupt" a came. You're still getting waxed and looking like an idiot to boot.

NBA players would look like absolute fools. They would barely touch the ball. Against a top Euro team it would be comparable to the Harlem Globetrotters vs the Washington Generals. They would name their score, just like the bball team would on the court.

Stupid argument.

OSH

gorocks99;1135408 wrote:A world-class soccer player could disrupt a basketball game, but would get run over (relatively) in a game against world-class basketball players.

A world-class basketball player could disrupt a soccer game, but would get run over (relatively) in a game against world-class soccer players.

The skill sets and tools to succeed are different enough in the sports that pure athleticism wouldn't be enough for either crossover team to avoid getting rolled.

Good post. Reps.

It's not hard to "disrupt" but that's not being competitive NOR is it "competing" on the same level.

Manhattan Buckeye

Automatik;1135411 wrote:lol who is clammed up?

Who gives a **** if you can "disrupt" a came. You're still getting waxed and looking like an idiot to boot.

NBA players would look like absolute fools. They would barely touch the ball. Against a top Euro team it would be comparable to the Harlem Globetrotters vs the Washington Generals. They would name their score, just like the bball team would on the court.

Stupid argument.

If 4-0 is considered waxing, that's one helluva sport.

Automatik

Manhattan Buckeye;1135413 wrote:If 4-0 is considered waxing, that's one helluva sport.

To each his own.

For the record, I like hoops and soccer pretty equally. You seem to not know shit about the game and its obviously not your thing, hence why you would bring about this retarded debate.

OSH

No doubt about it, top players...the world-class players in each sport are phenomenal athletes. They could potentially cross over into other sports and succeed -- or at least "disrupt" if that's what we are going for.

I am a sub-par basketball player. I won A-league intramural championships (that is plural) in college. These intramural championships consisted of several college basketball players in it as well -- my team won and we had one former college basketball player. Other teams had three. What's that tell me? This soccer guy can "disrupt" a game enough to win intramural championships! Woohoo!

That means my success in basketball trumps your "success" in soccer. That means my experience is greater. That means you lose.

Oh, I'd definitely like to see you participate in a soccer game where you "only play 45 minutes then get a break." That would be real fun to watch. It isn't a "90-minute marathon," you are right there...but in no other sport (football, basketball, baseball, etc.) where we are talking about this competing against others will they need more endurance than a soccer game. Average distance ran over the 90 minutes is anywhere between 5-8+ miles depending on position.

Manhattan Buckeye

I bring it up because soccer fans have such thin skins. Wikipedia Diego Maradona (obviously you know who he is). I respect his accomplishments, for what it is but in his heyday he looked like the singer for a Whitesnake tribute band. These aren't the world's best athletes, compared to the US NBA and NFL. And there is a reason for that.

Manhattan Buckeye

'I am a sub-par basketball player. I won A-league intramural championships (that is plural) in college. These intramural championships consisted of several college basketball players in it as well -- my team won and we had one former college basketball player. Other teams had three. What's that tell me? This soccer guy can "disrupt" a game enough to win intramural championships! Woohoo!"

How did you disrupt the game? Did you just keep throwing the ball out of bounds?

Belly35

So one team is called the Pissy and the other team Boner :laugh:

Automatik

You bring it up because you like to act like you know what you are talking about, yet fail miserably.

I agree though, regarding the best athletes, when you combine, size, power, speed, and pure athleticism, they are found in the NBA.

OSH

Manhattan Buckeye;1135418 wrote:I bring it up because soccer fans have such thin skins. Wikipedia Diego Maradona (obviously you know who he is). I respect his accomplishments, for what it is but in his heyday he looked like the singer for a Whitesnake tribute band. These aren't the world's best athletes, compared to the US NBA and NFL. And there is a reason for that.

Who says they have to be "world's best athletes?" That is a stupid argument.

No one cares if they are! World's best athletes probably aren't even in the NBA or NFL -- those offensive and defensive linemen sure do look like grand athletes...

But, professional soccer players definitely have more endurance than many other professional athletes, they have incredible lower body strength (we aren't looking at how much they can max here), they are fit and toned, and they compete in a grueling sport that has high demands on the human body.

Soccer fans may have thin skins...some. But it's pretty easy to get football fans riled up by bringing up "soccer." It's lousy. People cannot just let others enjoy sports they like. They always feel the need to knock one sport or another. It's stupid. I am a fan of just about every sport (minus hockey and golf). I have played many sports (soccer, baseball, basketball, and I wrestled). I enjoy those sports that I haven't played other than pickup games (football and volleyball). It's not that hard to enjoy several sports without degrading the accomplishments that some athletes have -- especially when one has NO CLUE what they are talking about.

Manhattan Buckeye;1135420 wrote:'I am a sub-par basketball player. I won A-league intramural championships (that is plural) in college. These intramural championships consisted of several college basketball players in it as well -- my team won and we had one former college basketball player. Other teams had three. What's that tell me? This soccer guy can "disrupt" a game enough to win intramural championships! Woohoo!"

How did you disrupt the game? Did you just keep throwing the ball out of bounds?

I "disrupted" the game enough to win intramural championships. You are the one who said soccer players couldn't hack it on the hardwood -- and this was against college basketball players.

Manhattan Buckeye

"I "disrupted" the game enough to win intramural championships. You are the one who said soccer players couldn't hack it on the hardwood -- and this was against college basketball players."

How? If you legitimately beat college basketball players you have played basketball before, and are pretty good. No soccer player in the world that hasn't touched a basketball in their life would even know what to do in said situation.

Soccer. Never touched a ball in my life....see it, kick it.

They come back, see it, kick it.

They come back, see it, kick it.

They come back, see it kick it. Etc.

I don't have to kick to score, I can kick it anywhere I want.

Basketball doesn't work like that. Rules dictate what you can or cannot do.

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