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DeyDurkie5

their religion is what kills them.

Belly35

http://islamicpersecution.wordpress.com/2010/09/22/killing-christians-in-somalia-burning-bibles-in-pakistan-and-stealth-jihad/

dwccrew

believer;731843 wrote:Fair enough but for the record, I choose to use phrases like the "so-called religion of peace" to drive home a point. I never said I thought all Muslims are extremists. But until the more civil and level-headed Muslims (especially the clerics) gain control of their minority yet radical and extremely violent element, - my admitted bias aside - it's still reasonably fair to say that Islam itself is nowhere near being perceived as the self-professed religion of peace...at least in 2011.

I understand you use those phrases to make your point. I am just pointing out that it could offend muslims that do not condone the radical segment. I really think that if you ever get the opportunity, you should visit an Islamic center or mosque and learn about Islam and meet the people. I also encourage close-minded muslims to do the same with churches and synagoges. People fear what they don't understand. Fear leads to irrational behavior (stating this as a generality, not aimed towards you).

cbus4life

believer;731748 wrote:
I do. I just wish American liberals and Islamic extremists would respect mine.

Oh please, most regular liberals, rational folks, certainly respect your opinion. Just as most regular conservatives i know respect my liberal beliefs.

You're being ridiculous. American liberals certainly respect your beliefs, by and large. Yea, the extremists probably don't, but they're nuts, just like the extremists on the right probably don't respect my beliefs.

Most American conservatives i talk to respect my beliefs, just like most liberals i know, like myself, respect conservative beliefs. We can agree to disagree, definitely. But, i'm of the opinion that the regular folks on the right and the regular folks on the left aren't all that different, and the closer we get to realizing that, the better.

believer

cbus4life;732175 wrote:Oh please, most regular liberals, rational folks, certainly respect your opinion. Just as most regular conservatives i know respect my liberal beliefs.

You're being ridiculous. American liberals certainly respect your beliefs, by and large. Yea, the extremists probably don't, but they're nuts, just like the extremists on the right probably don't respect my beliefs.

Most American conservatives i talk to respect my beliefs, just like most liberals i know, like myself, respect conservative beliefs. We can agree to disagree, definitely. But, i'm of the opinion that the regular folks on the right and the regular folks on the left aren't all that different, and the closer we get to realizing that, the better.

I've been following politics since junior high school (late 60's/early 70's). I can honestly say I've never seen this country more polarized politically. In fact some would argue we haven't been this polarized since the Civil War. I work side-by-side with liberals with no issues but the moment politics is discussed, it gets very heated. There's a deep political divide in this country right now so I would have to disagree with you that we aren't all that much different.

dwccrew

cbus4life;732175 wrote:Oh please, most regular liberals, rational folks, certainly respect your opinion. Just as most regular conservatives i know respect my liberal beliefs.

You're being ridiculous. American liberals certainly respect your beliefs, by and large. Yea, the extremists probably don't, but they're nuts, just like the extremists on the right probably don't respect my beliefs.

Most American conservatives i talk to respect my beliefs, just like most liberals i know, like myself, respect conservative beliefs. We can agree to disagree, definitely. But, i'm of the opinion that the regular folks on the right and the regular folks on the left aren't all that different, and the closer we get to realizing that, the better.

believer;732181 wrote:I've been following politics since junior high school (late 60's/early 70's). I can honestly say I've never seen this country more polarized politically. In fact some would argue we haven't been this polarized since the Civil War. I work side-by-side with liberals with no issues but the moment politics is discussed, it gets very heated. There's a deep political divide in this country right now so I would have to disagree with you that we aren't all that much different.

Con_Alma

cbus4life;732175 wrote:Oh please, most regular liberals, rational folks, certainly respect your opinion. Just as most regular conservatives i know respect my liberal beliefs.

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I respect you, your ability to rationalize and have such beliefs but not the beliefs themselves. There's a difference.

Thread Bomber

jmog;731349 wrote:I have already tore you up once the last time you copy and pasted these verses fro your "I hate Christians" website. I will not go through one by one and tell you the actual context of each of these passages and once again explain what they mean. I hate repeating myself.

Fuck you you arrogant twat.

If you read what I posted, It was in response to belly's rant about :

That is in the Koran right? Day of worship of a peaceful religion…right?

Notice the Irony of his statement. It was posted to re butt his statement. But since you have re-self appointed yourself King of Theocracy, Maybe you could notice the context for what I posted....

Nahhh, that require open thinking and acknowledging an attack on your indoctrination in Christianity.

Your response supports the problem with religion in general. The difference is that Christians tend to be better educated and are smart enough not to read what is written literally.

In fact, these Radical Muslims are by far more noble than the likes of you. They are willing to die for what they believe in, You are only willing to post your diatribe on a serious business forum anonymously.

Go ahead and repeat yourself.

Go ahead and tear me up asshole, You will continue to support my notion. You just choose to attack with words, the less educated attack with all they know. Namely violence and murder.

I do not support violence over any king of religion, But I am smart enough to figure out how it happens. Uneducated people (and ignorant ones) feel it is necessary to kill for an all powerful being or entity.

Hell, everyone knows they can't defend themselves.

End rant.

Belly35

Thread Bomber;732221 wrote:Fuck you you arrogant twat.

If you read what I posted, It was in response to belly's rant about :

Notice the Irony of his statement. It was posted to re butt his statement. But since you have re-self appointed yourself King of Theocracy, Maybe you could notice the context for what I posted....

Nahhh, that require open thinking and acknowledging an attack on your indoctrination in Christianity.

Your response supports the problem with religion in general. The difference is that Christians tend to be better educated and are smart enough not to read what is written literally.

In fact, these Radical Muslims are by far more noble than the likes of you. They are willing to die for what they believe in, You are only willing to post your diatribe on a serious business forum anonymously.

Go ahead and repeat yourself.

Go ahead and tear me up asshole, You will continue to support my notion. You just choose to attack with words, the less educated attack with all they know. Namely violence and murder.

I do not support violence over any king of religion, But I am smart enough to figure out how it happens. Uneducated people (and ignorant ones) feel it is necessary to kill for an all powerful being or entity.

Hell, everyone knows they can't defend themselves.

End rant.

"You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting"

Belly35

When the vest does not blow this is what is heard and see.

Multiculturalism not working … or is Islamism the problem

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/04/04/captured-pakistani-bomber-14-vows-future-attacks/#

CenterBHSFan

In fact, these Radical Muslims are by far more noble than the likes of you. They are willing to die for what they believe in, You are only willing to post your diatribe on a serious business forum anonymously.

Uhh....

BigAppleBuckeye

Belly35;732346 wrote:When the vest does not blow this is what is heard and see.

Multiculturalism not working … or is Islamism the problem

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/04/04/captured-pakistani-bomber-14-vows-future-attacks/#

You do understand that this is an extremist, right? I bore trying to reason with you Belly, but I will try again: shall all Christians be judged against the hate-mongering Westboro Baptist Church? Of course not. Do yourself a favor, walk away from the computer, and start working on your racist ways.

Thread Bomber

CenterBHSFan;732352 wrote:Uhh....

Awww... C'mon Center, You can do better than that.

CenterBHSFan

BigAppleBuckeye;732357 wrote:You do understand that this is an extremist, right? I bore trying to reason with you Belly, but I will try again: shall all Christians be judged against the hate-mongering Westboro Baptist Church? Of course not. Do yourself a favor, walk away from the computer, and start working on your racist ways.

Do you really think he's racist? Or prejudice? Big enough difference to use the right word, IMO.

CenterBHSFan

Thread Bomber;732361 wrote:Awww... C'mon Center, You can do better than that.

I know, but I'm just being extremely lazy right now. I just got done posting a small(er) diatribe over in the poli forum, so I've got nothing else for ya!

Heretic

CenterBHSFan;732352 wrote:Uhh....

Yeah...I wouldn't go that far. There's no nobility in dying for some religion. That's more stupidity on the same level as dying of a heart attack because you spent too much time posting on a forum while stuffing pizza down your throat with a quiet desperation. Except in the latter case, you're not using said religion to take out others.

BigAppleBuckeye

CenterBHSFan;732362 wrote:Do you really think he's racist? Or prejudice? Big enough difference to use the right word, IMO.

Fair point Center, I guess prejudice, or even intolerant, would have been a better choice here.

Thread Bomber

I think he's a cool ol MoFo!

Belly35

Thread Bomber;732368 wrote:I think he's a cool ol MoFo!

LOL Good one ...

Belly35

Obama envoy: Islam is the Solution not the Problem

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/04/obama_envoy_islam_is_the_solut.html

CenterBHSFan

Belly, per your article:

"I am of the opinion that one of the strongest tools that you can use to counter radicalization and violent extremism is Islam itself, because Islam rejects violent extremism," Hussain said during a speech in Kabul.

I disagree with the writer of the article and agree with the above quote. Insofar as Islamists are going to have to be the ones to change their extremists. The COIN strategy is a good tool, but the change will have to come from the body of the organization itself. Hard/wishful thinking in some areas, I know. But, much like the Catholic church has morphed with time, so will Islam. Hopefully.

I Wear Pants

CenterBHSFan;734230 wrote:Belly, per your article:

I disagree with the writer of the article and agree with the above quote. Insofar as Islamists are going to have to be the ones to change their extremists. The COIN strategy is a good tool, but the change will have to come from the body of the organization itself. Hard/wishful thinking in some areas, I know. But, much like the Catholic church has morphed with time, so will Islam. Hopefully.

Center, that's a pretty rational view. Which is why I'm sure many will dismiss it here because Islam is eviilllll and wants to punch freedom in the face.

Just look at the younger people within the Muslim faith and all the change. From simple things like wearing western clothing and listening to some western music to more important things like women's rights (that one still has a very long way to go). Things are changing but to expect it to be overnight is insane.

jmog

I Wear Pants;731506 wrote:Yeah. I mean, if I call a dude in a bar who's just hanging out otherwise a bunch of names and say bad things about his wife and then he stabs me to death. Yes he did wrong but I definitely caused it. Should he have done it? Nope, but we all understand why he did.

Problem is he goes to jail for murder, and rightly so. He doesn't "get off" because you started it with insults.

jmog

Pick6;731692 wrote:not at all. I'm a Christian, but Im obviously a little more open minded than a lot of you. And for the record, muslims believe in Jesus.

Not true, Muslims believe Jesus of Nazareth was a prophet from God (Allah) they do NOT believe IN Jesus, there is a huge difference. Believing IN Jesus is insinuating that one believes Jesus was the Son of God, the Jewish Messiah. Muslims do NOT believe this and count it as heresy.

jmog

Thread Bomber;732221 wrote:Fuck you you arrogant twat.

If you read what I posted, It was in response to belly's rant about :

Notice the Irony of his statement. It was posted to re butt his statement. But since you have re-self appointed yourself King of Theocracy, Maybe you could notice the context for what I posted....

Nahhh, that require open thinking and acknowledging an attack on your indoctrination in Christianity.

Your response supports the problem with religion in general. The difference is that Christians tend to be better educated and are smart enough not to read what is written literally.

In fact, these Radical Muslims are by far more noble than the likes of you. They are willing to die for what they believe in, You are only willing to post your diatribe on a serious business forum anonymously.

Go ahead and repeat yourself.

Go ahead and tear me up asshole, You will continue to support my notion. You just choose to attack with words, the less educated attack with all they know. Namely violence and murder.

I do not support violence over any king of religion, But I am smart enough to figure out how it happens. Uneducated people (and ignorant ones) feel it is necessary to kill for an all powerful being or entity.

Hell, everyone knows they can't defend themselves.

End rant.

I literally lol'd at that one, did you just call the radical Muslims more noble, but dumber than me because they will kill for what they believe?

Its noble to die for what you believe, but insane to kill for what you believe. Huge difference...

That's priceless, you once again have lost the argument.