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  • thedynasty1998
    http://ohiocasb.org/about/data

    I'm one that thinks teachers make too much money, and when I get into an argument with one, I always refer to this.
  • se-alum
    Teachers make damn good money for the amount of time they work.
  • Fab1b
    It depends on who asks me and what their motives are.
  • LJ
    thedynasty1998 wrote: http://ohiocasb.org/about/data

    I'm one that thinks teachers make too much money, and when I get into an argument with one, I always refer to this.
    Where are the OSU employees?
  • Glory Days
    LJ wrote: Well see, that is what makes up part of the difference between the public sector and the private sector.
    You dont say? gosh. not only is the salary public, but just about everything else is too. where is the incentive to get people to work in the public sector? i know it isnt in the pay.
    se-alum wrote: Teachers make damn good money for the amount of time they work.
    really? what schools? i know some teachers that might want to relocate. just because a teacher is in school from about 8-4 everyday doesnt mean they are done working then. most are still working late into the night grading papers and test or doing lesson plans.
  • justincredible
    Damn, just found out the AD/Varsity football coach at my old HS is making $91k/year. Granted, he's been there for 33 years, but damn.
  • LJ
    Glory Days wrote:
    LJ wrote: Well see, that is what makes up part of the difference between the public sector and the private sector.
    You dont say? gosh. not only is the salary public, but just about everything else is too. where is the incentive to get people to work in the public sector? i know it isnt in the pay.
    mainly it's work/personal life balance. Much shorter hours and more vacation time with Fed service. More job security too.
  • thedynasty1998
    Stay in the school system and you are going to make some good money. That's the thing I found interesting, the HS AD's and coaches.

    Haven't found one for the OSU employees. Always would be interested in City Employees.
  • thedynasty1998
    Glory Days wrote:
    LJ wrote: Well see, that is what makes up part of the difference between the public sector and the private sector.
    You dont say? gosh. not only is the salary public, but just about everything else is too. where is the incentive to get people to work in the public sector? i know it isnt in the pay.
    se-alum wrote: Teachers make damn good money for the amount of time they work.
    really? what schools? i know some teachers that might want to relocate. just because a teacher is in school from about 8-4 everyday doesnt mean they are done working then. most are still working late into the night grading papers and test or doing lesson plans.
    Most jobs are not necessarily done when they clock out. Plus, when you get the entire summer off, it's pretty damn good pay. That's not mentioning benefits.
  • LJ
    thedynasty1998 wrote: Stay in the school system and you are going to make some good money. That's the thing I found interesting, the HS AD's and coaches.

    Haven't found one for the OSU employees. Always would be interested in City Employees.
    That's the one I couldn't get to work.
  • Glory Days
    LJ wrote:
    Glory Days wrote:
    LJ wrote: Well see, that is what makes up part of the difference between the public sector and the private sector.
    You dont say? gosh. not only is the salary public, but just about everything else is too. where is the incentive to get people to work in the public sector? i know it isnt in the pay.
    mainly it's work/personal life balance. Much shorter hours and more vacation time with Fed service. More job security too.
    haha then i must be getting into the wrong public job.
  • LJ
    Glory Days wrote:
    LJ wrote:
    Glory Days wrote:
    LJ wrote: Well see, that is what makes up part of the difference between the public sector and the private sector.
    You dont say? gosh. not only is the salary public, but just about everything else is too. where is the incentive to get people to work in the public sector? i know it isnt in the pay.
    mainly it's work/personal life balance. Much shorter hours and more vacation time with Fed service. More job security too.
    haha then i must be getting into the wrong public job.
    What public job is that?
  • gut
    thedynasty1998 wrote:Plus, when you get the entire summer off, it's pretty damn good pay. That's not mentioning benefits.
    Great benefits and retirement.

    Considering most higher paying jobs have little to no pension or 401k, I'd like to see an NPV to see how it stacks up. Teachers (and most govt workers, for that matter) make up a fair amount of ground on the back-end in retirement.
  • Glory Days
    thedynasty1998 wrote:
    Glory Days wrote:
    LJ wrote: Well see, that is what makes up part of the difference between the public sector and the private sector.
    You dont say? gosh. not only is the salary public, but just about everything else is too. where is the incentive to get people to work in the public sector? i know it isnt in the pay.
    se-alum wrote: Teachers make damn good money for the amount of time they work.
    really? what schools? i know some teachers that might want to relocate. just because a teacher is in school from about 8-4 everyday doesnt mean they are done working then. most are still working late into the night grading papers and test or doing lesson plans.
    Most jobs are not necessarily done when they clock out. Plus, when you get the entire summer off, it's pretty damn good pay. That's not mentioning benefits.
    Maybe again its just the teachers i know that are forced to find work over the summer unless they have someone else to support them. Several i know are laid off every summer and dont know if they will be hired again by the school until several days before it starts.
  • Glory Days
    LJ wrote:
    Glory Days wrote:
    LJ wrote:
    Glory Days wrote:
    LJ wrote: Well see, that is what makes up part of the difference between the public sector and the private sector.
    You dont say? gosh. not only is the salary public, but just about everything else is too. where is the incentive to get people to work in the public sector? i know it isnt in the pay.
    mainly it's work/personal life balance. Much shorter hours and more vacation time with Fed service. More job security too.
    haha then i must be getting into the wrong public job.
    What public job is that?
    haha law enforcement. changing shifts and working holidays. vacation time is hit and miss, some places are good, other arent. its definitely not something you do for the pay, but i dont mind.
  • queencitybuckeye
    Glory Days wrote: what about your business clients? since people feel they are entitled to know what government workers make, shouldnt a client be entitled to know what his service provider makes? that way he doesnt think he is being overcharged for a service if he knows the service provider is paying their employees too high? just a thought.
    The marketplace protects my clients. If they feel that they're paying too much for what I provide, they are free to take their business to the competition.
  • se-alum
    Glory Days wrote:really? what schools? i know some teachers that might want to relocate. just because a teacher is in school from about 8-4 everyday doesnt mean they are done working then. most are still working late into the night grading papers and test or doing lesson plans.
    My #'s may be a little off, but not much. Schools have to have 180 school days per year I believe, so add another 5 or so for teachers. Even if they were there for 8hrs, which many are not, that is 1480 work hours a year. Say they are making $36,000/yr after a few years of teaching. That's about $24 per hour of work. They have planning periods in which most grading can be done. Also, many people work after their workday is over, unfortunately I don't have that option due to security purposes. 3 months off, plenty of sick days, personal days, christmas break, spring break, snow days. Sorry, but you won't convince me that teachers don't get paid well!

    Feel free to adjust some of my #'s if they are off.
  • FatHobbit
    I have only shared my salary with my parents.

    My mom and I both make about the same amount, but she likes to brag when she gets a raise. Basically whenever one of us gets a raise, they make more, until the other one gets a raise. We're a little competitive so it just gives us something extra to tease eachother about.

    My dad was not a big fan of me going to college. To him it was a big waste of time and money and he thought I would be better off getting a full time job. I like to tell him just so he can see how wrong he was. I'm not sure if that makes me an asshole or not. :)
  • FatHobbit
    se-alum wrote: That's about $24 per hour of work.
    Is that really a lot of money for the time it takes to get the degree and the stress? I wouldn't mind being a teacher, but I don't think I could handle all the mouthy little brats and their parents.
  • se-alum
    Is that really a lot of money for the time it takes to get the degree and the stress? I wouldn't mind being a teacher, but I don't think I could handle all the mouthy little brats and their parents.
    I don't think it's bad. Those #'s are based on the rural school district where I went to school. Projected out to a full work year it's about 50K/year. I should clarify, I don't consider teachers salaries to be good based on a full year of work, but it's good for the amount that they actually work.
  • thedynasty1998
    For a bachelors degree, $24 an hour starting off is pretty good. Not to mention all the other perks.

    I really don't get how anyone in their right mind could say teachers are underpaid.

    I know someone who teaches 3rd graders and in his 4th year is making $47,0000.
  • FatHobbit
    thedynasty1998 wrote: For a bachelors degree, $24 an hour starting off is pretty good. Not to mention all the other perks.
    Don't you need a masters to be a teacher? Or at least you have to get a masters within a certain amount of time after you start?
  • se-alum
    Masters within' 5 years I believe.
  • j_crazy
    I have a bachelors and I make ~$29 per hour worked. I don't get perks (unless you include 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off rotation and the occasional LSU/Saints Tickets, but those aren't in the job description:))
  • thedynasty1998
    Many school districts will pay for part of the tuition to get a masters.