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Do you think gay couples should be able to adopt children?

  • dwccrew
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote:
    dwccrew wrote:
    krazie45 wrote: By the way, all ya "good ol' boy" homophobes out there. Sad to say but you guys are a dying breed along with the racists, sexists, and the religious intolerant. My generation and those just before it have already started the shift that's only going to continue in succeeding generations. It's only a matter of time before you guys die off and such intolerance is no longer the majority belief in this country.
    And it can't come soon enough. Who would think that being tolerant of other people is a bad thing?
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote: Most heterosexual couples who adopt (not all) don't have the ability medically to have children. There are also homosexual persons that also don't have the ability to produce if they were straight. There are, however, many homosexual couples that could have children of their own if they were heterosexual and willingly choose the unnatural. If a gay person denies their ability to reproduce with the oppisite sex the natural way, would it be selfish of them to adopt a child? I think so myself. If a person decides to be homosexual that person gives up their reproductive ability to have a child of their own blood as a couple. Simple math to me.
    I don't think it is selfish at all. Let's think about it logically; a loving, well balanced home that can be provided by a homosexual couple (even if they could have their own children naturally) is a great option for children who are in the foster care system. If they want to adopt and provide a loving home for a child that is in need of a family, I think it is less selfish to change that child's life for the better by giving them a family rather than bringing a child of your own into the world.
    Al Capone wrote: Yep. The same way we continue to let arabs on our airplanes and they continue to try and blow them up.
    Political correctness will be the downfall of this country.
    I'm arab and I have never tried to blow up any plane I have ever gotten on. The Christmas Day bomber was arab? Hmmmmmm......... And damn that Timothy McVeigh. He was arab and muslim. How about Charles Whitman when he shot all those people in Texas because he is arab and muslim. Or Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold when they shot and killed students and faculty at Columbine High School.
    dwccrew wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote:
    FairwoodKing wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote: Most heterosexual couples who adopt (not all) don't have the ability medically to have children. There are also homosexual persons that also don't have the ability to produce if they were straight. There are, however, many homosexual couples that could have children of their own if they were heterosexual and willingly choose the unnatural. If a gay person denies their ability to reproduce with the oppisite sex the natural way, would it be selfish of them to adopt a child? I think so myself. If a person decides to be homosexual that person gives up their reproductive ability to have a child of their own blood as a couple. Simple math to me.
    You're totally wrong. Nobody chooses to be gay. What some gay people have a problem with is admitting it to themselves and to others and in dealing with it. I was thirty when I finally came out of the closet and it was the toughest thing I ever did in my life. But when I finally told someone, it felt like the weight of the world came off my shoulders.
    Nobody chooses to be gay?? Everyone has a choice and if you make a choice you have to be prepared to sacrifice something with any choice you make. I myself choose to dip Copenhagen and risk cancer or I could quit cold turkey and reduce that risk. Unfortunately I still dip and will my self to the consequences if I don't quit. One of a gay person's choice is to relinquish their reproductive abilities. A choice is a choice and only a person themselves can change that.
    When did you choose to be heterosexual, if I may ask?
    When I was born, the other option didn't exist for me.
    And that is the answer that almost every homosexual will ever give you. If you know any, ask them. I have several homosexual friends and they all have told me that they never chose to be gay, they always had been. As FairwoodKing stated, a homosexual may lie to themselves or try to mask their true identity in fear of others judgment, ultimately they have been gay their entire life and never made the choice to be gay, just as you didn't make the choice to be heterosexual.

    I never can figure out why some people don't get that homosexuals were born homosexual. It has been proven that it happens with animals (I highly doubt an animal would make a conscience choice to be gay), which leads me to believe it also can with humans.
  • DeyDurkie5
    dwccrew wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote:
    dwccrew wrote:
    krazie45 wrote: By the way, all ya "good ol' boy" homophobes out there. Sad to say but you guys are a dying breed along with the racists, sexists, and the religious intolerant. My generation and those just before it have already started the shift that's only going to continue in succeeding generations. It's only a matter of time before you guys die off and such intolerance is no longer the majority belief in this country.
    And it can't come soon enough. Who would think that being tolerant of other people is a bad thing?
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote: Most heterosexual couples who adopt (not all) don't have the ability medically to have children. There are also homosexual persons that also don't have the ability to produce if they were straight. There are, however, many homosexual couples that could have children of their own if they were heterosexual and willingly choose the unnatural. If a gay person denies their ability to reproduce with the oppisite sex the natural way, would it be selfish of them to adopt a child? I think so myself. If a person decides to be homosexual that person gives up their reproductive ability to have a child of their own blood as a couple. Simple math to me.
    I don't think it is selfish at all. Let's think about it logically; a loving, well balanced home that can be provided by a homosexual couple (even if they could have their own children naturally) is a great option for children who are in the foster care system. If they want to adopt and provide a loving home for a child that is in need of a family, I think it is less selfish to change that child's life for the better by giving them a family rather than bringing a child of your own into the world.
    Al Capone wrote: Yep. The same way we continue to let arabs on our airplanes and they continue to try and blow them up.
    Political correctness will be the downfall of this country.
    I'm arab and I have never tried to blow up any plane I have ever gotten on. The Christmas Day bomber was arab? Hmmmmmm......... And damn that Timothy McVeigh. He was arab and muslim. How about Charles Whitman when he shot all those people in Texas because he is arab and muslim. Or Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold when they shot and killed students and faculty at Columbine High School.
    dwccrew wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote:
    FairwoodKing wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote: Most heterosexual couples who adopt (not all) don't have the ability medically to have children. There are also homosexual persons that also don't have the ability to produce if they were straight. There are, however, many homosexual couples that could have children of their own if they were heterosexual and willingly choose the unnatural. If a gay person denies their ability to reproduce with the oppisite sex the natural way, would it be selfish of them to adopt a child? I think so myself. If a person decides to be homosexual that person gives up their reproductive ability to have a child of their own blood as a couple. Simple math to me.
    You're totally wrong. Nobody chooses to be gay. What some gay people have a problem with is admitting it to themselves and to others and in dealing with it. I was thirty when I finally came out of the closet and it was the toughest thing I ever did in my life. But when I finally told someone, it felt like the weight of the world came off my shoulders.
    Nobody chooses to be gay?? Everyone has a choice and if you make a choice you have to be prepared to sacrifice something with any choice you make. I myself choose to dip Copenhagen and risk cancer or I could quit cold turkey and reduce that risk. Unfortunately I still dip and will my self to the consequences if I don't quit. One of a gay person's choice is to relinquish their reproductive abilities. A choice is a choice and only a person themselves can change that.
    When did you choose to be heterosexual, if I may ask?
    When I was born, the other option didn't exist for me.
    And that is the answer that almost every homosexual will ever give you. If you know any, ask them. I have several homosexual friends and they all have told me that they never chose to be gay, they always had been. As FairwoodKing stated, a homosexual may lie to themselves or try to mask their true identity in fear of others judgment, ultimately they have been gay their entire life and never made the choice to be gay, just as you didn't make the choice to be heterosexual.

    I never can figure out why some people don't get that homosexuals were born homosexual. It has been proven that it happens with animals (I highly doubt an animal would make a conscience choice to be gay), which leads me to believe it also can with humans.

    because people are ignorant and want to believe what they believe. They can't fathom that someone was born that way, just as they were born straight.
  • Bio-Hazzzzard
    dwccrew wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote:
    dwccrew wrote:
    krazie45 wrote: By the way, all ya "good ol' boy" homophobes out there. Sad to say but you guys are a dying breed along with the racists, sexists, and the religious intolerant. My generation and those just before it have already started the shift that's only going to continue in succeeding generations. It's only a matter of time before you guys die off and such intolerance is no longer the majority belief in this country.
    And it can't come soon enough. Who would think that being tolerant of other people is a bad thing?
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote: Most heterosexual couples who adopt (not all) don't have the ability medically to have children. There are also homosexual persons that also don't have the ability to produce if they were straight. There are, however, many homosexual couples that could have children of their own if they were heterosexual and willingly choose the unnatural. If a gay person denies their ability to reproduce with the oppisite sex the natural way, would it be selfish of them to adopt a child? I think so myself. If a person decides to be homosexual that person gives up their reproductive ability to have a child of their own blood as a couple. Simple math to me.
    I don't think it is selfish at all. Let's think about it logically; a loving, well balanced home that can be provided by a homosexual couple (even if they could have their own children naturally) is a great option for children who are in the foster care system. If they want to adopt and provide a loving home for a child that is in need of a family, I think it is less selfish to change that child's life for the better by giving them a family rather than bringing a child of your own into the world.
    Al Capone wrote: Yep. The same way we continue to let arabs on our airplanes and they continue to try and blow them up.
    Political correctness will be the downfall of this country.
    I'm arab and I have never tried to blow up any plane I have ever gotten on. The Christmas Day bomber was arab? Hmmmmmm......... And damn that Timothy McVeigh. He was arab and muslim. How about Charles Whitman when he shot all those people in Texas because he is arab and muslim. Or Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold when they shot and killed students and faculty at Columbine High School.
    dwccrew wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote:
    FairwoodKing wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote: Most heterosexual couples who adopt (not all) don't have the ability medically to have children. There are also homosexual persons that also don't have the ability to produce if they were straight. There are, however, many homosexual couples that could have children of their own if they were heterosexual and willingly choose the unnatural. If a gay person denies their ability to reproduce with the oppisite sex the natural way, would it be selfish of them to adopt a child? I think so myself. If a person decides to be homosexual that person gives up their reproductive ability to have a child of their own blood as a couple. Simple math to me.
    You're totally wrong. Nobody chooses to be gay. What some gay people have a problem with is admitting it to themselves and to others and in dealing with it. I was thirty when I finally came out of the closet and it was the toughest thing I ever did in my life. But when I finally told someone, it felt like the weight of the world came off my shoulders.
    Nobody chooses to be gay?? Everyone has a choice and if you make a choice you have to be prepared to sacrifice something with any choice you make. I myself choose to dip Copenhagen and risk cancer or I could quit cold turkey and reduce that risk. Unfortunately I still dip and will my self to the consequences if I don't quit. One of a gay person's choice is to relinquish their reproductive abilities. A choice is a choice and only a person themselves can change that.
    When did you choose to be heterosexual, if I may ask?
    When I was born, the other option didn't exist for me.
    And that is the answer that almost every homosexual will ever give you. If you know any, ask them. I have several homosexual friends and they all have told me that they never chose to be gay, they always had been. As FairwoodKing stated, a homosexual may lie to themselves or try to mask their true identity in fear of others judgment, ultimately they have been gay their entire life and never made the choice to be gay, just as you didn't make the choice to be heterosexual.

    I never can figure out why some people don't get that homosexuals were born homosexual. It has been proven that it happens with animals (I highly doubt an animal would make a conscience choice to be gay), which leads me to believe it also can with humans.
    Ok you got me there but it doesn't take away from the fact that gay's can have children of their own blood. I don't hate homosexuals I just don't agree with it.
  • dwccrew
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote:
    dwccrew wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote:
    dwccrew wrote:
    krazie45 wrote: By the way, all ya "good ol' boy" homophobes out there. Sad to say but you guys are a dying breed along with the racists, sexists, and the religious intolerant. My generation and those just before it have already started the shift that's only going to continue in succeeding generations. It's only a matter of time before you guys die off and such intolerance is no longer the majority belief in this country.
    And it can't come soon enough. Who would think that being tolerant of other people is a bad thing?
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote: Most heterosexual couples who adopt (not all) don't have the ability medically to have children. There are also homosexual persons that also don't have the ability to produce if they were straight. There are, however, many homosexual couples that could have children of their own if they were heterosexual and willingly choose the unnatural. If a gay person denies their ability to reproduce with the oppisite sex the natural way, would it be selfish of them to adopt a child? I think so myself. If a person decides to be homosexual that person gives up their reproductive ability to have a child of their own blood as a couple. Simple math to me.
    I don't think it is selfish at all. Let's think about it logically; a loving, well balanced home that can be provided by a homosexual couple (even if they could have their own children naturally) is a great option for children who are in the foster care system. If they want to adopt and provide a loving home for a child that is in need of a family, I think it is less selfish to change that child's life for the better by giving them a family rather than bringing a child of your own into the world.
    Al Capone wrote: Yep. The same way we continue to let arabs on our airplanes and they continue to try and blow them up.
    Political correctness will be the downfall of this country.
    I'm arab and I have never tried to blow up any plane I have ever gotten on. The Christmas Day bomber was arab? Hmmmmmm......... And damn that Timothy McVeigh. He was arab and muslim. How about Charles Whitman when he shot all those people in Texas because he is arab and muslim. Or Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold when they shot and killed students and faculty at Columbine High School.
    dwccrew wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote:
    FairwoodKing wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote: Most heterosexual couples who adopt (not all) don't have the ability medically to have children. There are also homosexual persons that also don't have the ability to produce if they were straight. There are, however, many homosexual couples that could have children of their own if they were heterosexual and willingly choose the unnatural. If a gay person denies their ability to reproduce with the oppisite sex the natural way, would it be selfish of them to adopt a child? I think so myself. If a person decides to be homosexual that person gives up their reproductive ability to have a child of their own blood as a couple. Simple math to me.
    You're totally wrong. Nobody chooses to be gay. What some gay people have a problem with is admitting it to themselves and to others and in dealing with it. I was thirty when I finally came out of the closet and it was the toughest thing I ever did in my life. But when I finally told someone, it felt like the weight of the world came off my shoulders.
    Nobody chooses to be gay?? Everyone has a choice and if you make a choice you have to be prepared to sacrifice something with any choice you make. I myself choose to dip Copenhagen and risk cancer or I could quit cold turkey and reduce that risk. Unfortunately I still dip and will my self to the consequences if I don't quit. One of a gay person's choice is to relinquish their reproductive abilities. A choice is a choice and only a person themselves can change that.
    When did you choose to be heterosexual, if I may ask?
    When I was born, the other option didn't exist for me.
    And that is the answer that almost every homosexual will ever give you. If you know any, ask them. I have several homosexual friends and they all have told me that they never chose to be gay, they always had been. As FairwoodKing stated, a homosexual may lie to themselves or try to mask their true identity in fear of others judgment, ultimately they have been gay their entire life and never made the choice to be gay, just as you didn't make the choice to be heterosexual.

    I never can figure out why some people don't get that homosexuals were born homosexual. It has been proven that it happens with animals (I highly doubt an animal would make a conscience choice to be gay), which leads me to believe it also can with humans.
    Ok you got me there but it doesn't take away from the fact that gay's can have children of their own blood. I don't hate homosexuals I just don't agree with it.
    And I respect the fact that you don't agree with their lifestyle; however, although some homosexual couples can have children of their own bloed, what is wrong with them adopting children that NEED a loving home, especially if they can provide one? I am sure there is heterosexual couples that adopt, even if they can have children of their own blood, because they feel it is important to give the already thousands of children that have no families, a family. I think it is very noble for both types of couples to do this.

    Why not give a child that is already born a family that will love and take care of them?
  • Pick6
    Didnt read the whole thread, so I dont know if this has been hit on or not but......

    It is not all about the "gay couple". Sure maybe they will provide the child with a better home and care. However, is it right for the child to grow up and be harassed because his adoption parents are for the most part, socially unaccepted.
  • eersandbeers
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote:

    Ok you got me there but it doesn't take away from the fact that gay's can have children of their own blood. I don't hate homosexuals I just don't agree with it.


    There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. The problem begins when you want to start enacting discriminatory policies because you don't agree with something.

    Pick6 wrote:

    It is not all about the "gay couple". Sure maybe they will provide the child with a better home and care. However, is it right for the child to grow up and be harassed because his adoption parents are for the most part, socially unaccepted.
    One of the most nonsensical arguments I've seen in this topic.
  • dwccrew
    Pick6 wrote: Didnt read the whole thread, so I dont know if this has been hit on or not but......

    It is not all about the "gay couple". Sure maybe they will provide the child with a better home and care. However, is it right for the child to grow up and be harassed because his adoption parents are for the most part, socially unaccepted.
    Yeah, you may want to read through the thread, because many people made the same argument you have.

    They'll get no more harassment than a muslim child, a child from a multi-racial family or a single parent family. This is a weak argument with a very invalid point.
  • Bio-Hazzzzard
    I have no doubt in my mind that a gay couple can provide a very good home for a child, however I stand my ground and absolutely do not believe in it.
  • Strapping Young Lad
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote: Most heterosexual couples who adopt (not all) don't have the ability medically to have children. There are also homosexual persons that also don't have the ability to produce if they were straight. There are, however, many homosexual couples that could have children of their own if they were heterosexual and willingly choose the unnatural. If a gay person denies their ability to reproduce with the oppisite sex the natural way, would it be selfish of them to adopt a child? I think so myself. If a person decides to be homosexual that person gives up their reproductive ability to have a child of their own blood as a couple. Simple math to me.

  • dwccrew
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote: I have no doubt in my mind that a gay couple can provide a very good home for a child, however I stand my ground and absolutely do not believe in it.
    Absolutley your right to do, we can agree to disagree. I only ask that you admit that a gay couple could raise a child just as well as a straight couple. I realize based on your moral beliefs you disagree with it, but that doesn't change the fact that gay couples are just as capable as a staight couple, true?
  • Pick6
    dwccrew wrote:
    Pick6 wrote: Didnt read the whole thread, so I dont know if this has been hit on or not but......

    It is not all about the "gay couple". Sure maybe they will provide the child with a better home and care. However, is it right for the child to grow up and be harassed because his adoption parents are for the most part, socially unaccepted.
    Yeah, you may want to read through the thread, because many people made the same argument you have.

    They'll get no more harassment than a muslim child, a child from a multi-racial family or a single parent family. This is a weak argument with a very invalid point.
    strongly disagree.
  • eersandbeers
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote: I have no doubt in my mind that a gay couple can provide a very good home for a child, however I stand my ground and absolutely do not believe in it.

    Nobody has said you don't have a right to disagree with homosexuality.

    We are talking about your support for blatant discrimination because you don't agree with homosexuality. They are two different things.
  • dwccrew
    Pick6 wrote:
    dwccrew wrote:
    Pick6 wrote: Didnt read the whole thread, so I dont know if this has been hit on or not but......

    It is not all about the "gay couple". Sure maybe they will provide the child with a better home and care. However, is it right for the child to grow up and be harassed because his adoption parents are for the most part, socially unaccepted.
    Yeah, you may want to read through the thread, because many people made the same argument you have.

    They'll get no more harassment than a muslim child, a child from a multi-racial family or a single parent family. This is a weak argument with a very invalid point.
    strongly disagree.
    That's fine, you can disagree with me. I'm not asking you to agree with me. I do believe that it is naive to think that a child from a homosexual home is any more harassed than a child from a muslim or any other home that I described.
  • Bio-Hazzzzard
    eersandbeers wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote: I have no doubt in my mind that a gay couple can provide a very good home for a child, however I stand my ground and absolutely do not believe in it.

    Nobody has said you don't have a right to disagree with homosexuality.

    We are talking about your support for blatant discrimination because you don't agree with homosexuality. They are two different things.
    Blatant discrimination? My aunt is gay and I love her like any other in the family. I have a friend that is gay and have no problem with him. I show no discimination because I don't agree with it.
  • eersandbeers
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote:
    eersandbeers wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote: I have no doubt in my mind that a gay couple can provide a very good home for a child, however I stand my ground and absolutely do not believe in it.

    Nobody has said you don't have a right to disagree with homosexuality.

    We are talking about your support for blatant discrimination because you don't agree with homosexuality. They are two different things.
    Blatant discrimination? My aunt is gay and I love her like any other in the family. I have a friend that is gay and have no problem with him. I show no discimination because I don't agree with it.

    Not supporting the right of gays to adopt children or marry like straights is discrimination based on sexual preference.
  • Bio-Hazzzzard
    dwccrew wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote: I have no doubt in my mind that a gay couple can provide a very good home for a child, however I stand my ground and absolutely do not believe in it.
    Absolutley your right to do, we can agree to disagree. I only ask that you admit that a gay couple could raise a child just as well as a straight couple. I realize based on your moral beliefs you disagree with it, but that doesn't change the fact that gay couples are just as capable as a staight couple, true?

    A human being is a human being gay or straight. Yes a gay couple can raise a child and are fully capable of raising a child. I believe a child needs both sexes in their life.
  • Bio-Hazzzzard
    eersandbeers wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote:
    eersandbeers wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote: I have no doubt in my mind that a gay couple can provide a very good home for a child, however I stand my ground and absolutely do not believe in it.

    Nobody has said you don't have a right to disagree with homosexuality.

    We are talking about your support for blatant discrimination because you don't agree with homosexuality. They are two different things.
    Blatant discrimination? My aunt is gay and I love her like any other in the family. I have a friend that is gay and have no problem with him. I show no discimination because I don't agree with it.

    Not supporting the right of gays to adopt children or marry like straights is discrimination based on sexual preference.
    Do you support the right of my christian faith?
  • I Wear Pants
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote:
    eersandbeers wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote:
    eersandbeers wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote: I have no doubt in my mind that a gay couple can provide a very good home for a child, however I stand my ground and absolutely do not believe in it.

    Nobody has said you don't have a right to disagree with homosexuality.

    We are talking about your support for blatant discrimination because you don't agree with homosexuality. They are two different things.
    Blatant discrimination? My aunt is gay and I love her like any other in the family. I have a friend that is gay and have no problem with him. I show no discimination because I don't agree with it.

    Not supporting the right of gays to adopt children or marry like straights is discrimination based on sexual preference.
    Do you support the right of my christian faith?
    Not if you think that faith means taking away the rights of others.
  • eersandbeers
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote:
    Do you support the right of my christian faith?
    [/quote]


    You need to expand your question. Am I Christian or do I support Christianity in general? No. Do I support removing your access to certain rights that others possess? No.
  • Strapping Young Lad
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote:
    dwccrew wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote: I have no doubt in my mind that a gay couple can provide a very good home for a child, however I stand my ground and absolutely do not believe in it.
    Absolutley your right to do, we can agree to disagree. I only ask that you admit that a gay couple could raise a child just as well as a straight couple. I realize based on your moral beliefs you disagree with it, but that doesn't change the fact that gay couples are just as capable as a staight couple, true?

    A human being is a human being gay or straight. Yes a gay couple can raise a child and are fully capable of raising a child. I believe a child needs both sexes in their life.

    If a child needs both sexes, should we take a child from a single mother and give it away to a couple????
  • Bio-Hazzzzard
    I Wear Pants wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote:
    eersandbeers wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote:
    eersandbeers wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote: I have no doubt in my mind that a gay couple can provide a very good home for a child, however I stand my ground and absolutely do not believe in it.

    Nobody has said you don't have a right to disagree with homosexuality.

    We are talking about your support for blatant discrimination because you don't agree with homosexuality. They are two different things.
    Blatant discrimination? My aunt is gay and I love her like any other in the family. I have a friend that is gay and have no problem with him. I show no discimination because I don't agree with it.

    Not supporting the right of gays to adopt children or marry like straights is discrimination based on sexual preference.
    Do you support the right of my christian faith?
    Not if you think that faith means taking away the rights of others.
    I believe in the Bible which to what I have been taught clearly states as homosexuality as a sin. But it also teaches to love everyone no matter their fault. Do I hate NO...Do I disagree yes
  • mexappeal12
    Fairwoodking... i'd like to say thank you for representing for the gays out there. Some of this conversation scares me so much. My brother is gay and he is the most important person in the world to me. He is thoughtful and caring and did not "choose" to be gay. I think it is very easy for people who don't have an immediate family member that is gay to judge people that are different so harshly. I hope that those that feel that being gay is so wrong dont have gay children... how would handle that situation? Would you tell them they are making the wrong choice and pray that God will heal them of their sickness? There are soooo many things that children get made fun of and honestly it is right of passage in some sense. I was constantly chastised and harassed for being the only hispanic girl in my predominantly Caucasian school..it taught me how to deal with problems. Most of the ppl that i know that never went through any kind of hardship are ill-equipped for life .. every kid gets made fun of something by someone.... Furthermore, I am pretty sure Jesus would take a gay with open arms and give them a hug... Jesus was a man of tolerance and love... not judgment and hate
  • Bio-Hazzzzard
    Strapping Young Lad wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote:
    dwccrew wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote: I have no doubt in my mind that a gay couple can provide a very good home for a child, however I stand my ground and absolutely do not believe in it.
    Absolutley your right to do, we can agree to disagree. I only ask that you admit that a gay couple could raise a child just as well as a straight couple. I realize based on your moral beliefs you disagree with it, but that doesn't change the fact that gay couples are just as capable as a staight couple, true?

    A human being is a human being gay or straight. Yes a gay couple can raise a child and are fully capable of raising a child. I believe a child needs both sexes in their life.

    If a child needs both sexes, should we take a child from a single mother and give it away to a couple????
    Listen here. My mom was a mean person and was not around for most of my childhood. I hated my mom for that to the point that I didn't care if she died when I was a child/teen. I have a tough time as does my brother dealing with our wives because we never had the mother figure in our lives. My mother and I get along great now once she admitted her mistakes to my brother and I and now she is the mother we wanted 20 years later. Yes you need both.
  • FairwoodKing
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote:
    I Wear Pants wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote:
    eersandbeers wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote:
    eersandbeers wrote:
    Bio-Hazzzzard wrote: I have no doubt in my mind that a gay couple can provide a very good home for a child, however I stand my ground and absolutely do not believe in it.

    Nobody has said you don't have a right to disagree with homosexuality.

    We are talking about your support for blatant discrimination because you don't agree with homosexuality. They are two different things.
    Blatant discrimination? My aunt is gay and I love her like any other in the family. I have a friend that is gay and have no problem with him. I show no discimination because I don't agree with it.

    Not supporting the right of gays to adopt children or marry like straights is discrimination based on sexual preference.
    Do you support the right of my christian faith?
    Not if you think that faith means taking away the rights of others.
    I believe in the Bible which to what I have been taught clearly states as homosexuality as a sin. But it also teaches to love everyone no matter their fault. Do I hate NO...Do I disagree yes
    The Bible is a book of bullshit. I am gay because my cock gets hard around men, not around women. Nothing in the Bible is going to change that.
  • september63
    While i support gay marriage and gay rights. The gay adoption thing is different. I completely agree they should be permitted to adopt. There are so many children in foster homes that would benefit from a better home environment. Depending on the age though, kids are kids. Being the child of 2 men during ones HS years could be a tough road to follow?