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  • Heretic
    Dr Winston O'Boogie;1816951 wrote:You are so easily led. Whatever topic right wing radio/tv brings up on any particular day, we can count on you deciding it is an issue within 24 hours. Today it is voter fraud just because Trump has introduced it into the dialogue (with no basis in truth mind you). Any guesses on what your marching orders will be tomrrow?

    Maybe:
    - Common Core being serving to indoctrinate our children into the homosexual communist lifestyle
    - Gun grabbers
    - UN/New World Order
    - War on Christianity
    - Sharia law in our courtrooms

    I see you fell for the "Obama eliminates the pledge of allegiance" one, so I suppose any are reasonable.
    He'll just be claiming that Trump killed Hillary in tonight's debate, regardless of whether public opinion or reality agrees with him or not. That's QQ in a nutshell: Lives in his own world with its own rules and it's up to us to figure out what sort of moon logic fuckery he's using as the basis for his statements this time.
  • QuakerOats
    Dr Winston O'Boogie;1816951 wrote:You are so easily led. Whatever topic right wing radio/tv brings up on any particular day, we can count on you deciding it is an issue within 24 hours. Today it is voter fraud just because Trump has introduced it into the dialogue (with no basis in truth mind you). Any guesses on what your marching orders will be tomrrow?


    It has little to do with Trump saying it; it has everything to do with the videos of the groups paid by the democrat party who are caught explaining how they do it. The democrats don't just commit voter fraud; they buy it. Please, keep defending them ............talk about a banana republic.
  • QuakerOats
    ptown_trojans_1;1816937 wrote:Are you fucking kidding me?
    Post your fucking evidence. Show me elections being rigged and exactly how it impacted. Show me an official source where the Government said fraud changed and impacted an election. Don't post your fucking right wing bullshit sites. Post actual fucking numbers and evidence to back up your bullshit claims. Otherwise, shut the fuck up on this topic. It is insane and just makes you sound like a complete idiot.

    Even Kasich is not with your dumbass logic. "“Look, to say that elections are rigged and all these votes are stolen – that’s like saying we never landed on the moon, frankly,” Kasich told “CBS This Morning.” “That’s how silly it is.”
    http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/blogs/2016/10/19/john-kasich-slams-donald-trump-rigged-election-talk/92403490/

    Post your evidence from legit, official sources. Otherwise, you are just spewing absolute bullshit like normal.

    We have posted the videos of how the operatives commit the fraud. We have posted the videos of the operatives inciting violence. We have posted the videos of how the democrat party funds the groups who commit these crimes. You don't like it apparently, it doesn't comport with your sheltered views; it might upset the apple cart and your gravy train if it comes out of how corrupt the system is and how disgustingly corrupt Washington DC is. TOO FUCKING BAD.

    You care more about a video of Trump talking about picking up babes, than about the democrats funding election fraud and inciting violence. You are such a tool. You don't deserve a republic.
  • ptown_trojans_1
    QuakerOats;1816964 wrote:We have posted the videos of how the operatives commit the fraud. We have posted the videos of the operatives inciting violence. We have posted the videos of how the democrat party funds the groups who commit these crimes. You don't like it apparently, it doesn't comport with your sheltered views; it might upset the apple cart and your gravy train if it comes out of how corrupt the system is and how disgustingly corrupt Washington DC is. TOO FUCKING BAD.

    You care more about a video of Trump talking about picking up babes, than about the democrats funding election fraud and inciting violence. You are such a tool. You don't deserve a republic.
    Those videos show absolutely jack shit. There is no actual hard evidence those led to widespread actual voter fraud. What you are talking about does not exist. You are just taking videos and extrapolating that this leads to widespread voter fraud, when in fact there is no actual evidence of the fact. You are talking bullshit, total bullshit. There is no widespread voter fraud, none. It is complete and total bullshit. You are just grasping now and accepting all the talking points by the Trump team. Even Kasich is not buying your bullshit.

    You are looking like the tool that is more to believe conspiracies than in reality.

    I usually base my opinion on fact, not bullshit claims.

    Again, show me actual evidence where voter fraud impacted an election. Show me the court case and the actual election where it occurred. Was it a House race, Senate? When and where? Were charges brought up, were people arrested? If it is as widespread as you say it is, then there would be court cases, overturned election results, from actual government sources. You know, actual facts instead of bullshit videos.
    If you cannot provide that proof to back up the claim that there is actual voter fraud, then shut the fuck up about it.

    What Trump is arguing without actual proof is a threat to the whole system of democracy. For such a claim, you better have the evidence to back that up. Right now, there is none, and it is complete bullshit.
  • QuakerOats
    You are literally unbelievable.

    The videos are plain to see and understand.

    The democrats fund it.

    If the criminal activities had/have no bearing on election results, why would the democrats fund such criminal activity?

    Please, get in the game.
  • QuakerOats
    PS --- Mr. Foval and Mr. Creamer, the leading operatives, have just resigned or been 'fired'.
  • ptown_trojans_1
    QuakerOats;1816974 wrote:You are literally unbelievable.

    The videos are plain to see and understand.

    The democrats fund it.

    If the criminal activities had/have no bearing on election results, why would the democrats fund such criminal activity?

    Please, get in the game.
    Post the court cases and the election results and proof it had an impact. Prove it.

    Again: "“Look, to say that elections are rigged and all these votes are stolen – that’s like saying we never landed on the moon, frankly,” Kasich told “CBS This Morning.” “That’s how silly it is.”
    http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news...talk/92403490/
  • CenterBHSFan
    QuakerOats;1816975 wrote:PS --- Mr. Foval and Mr. Creamer, the leading operatives, have just resigned or been 'fired'.
    Well... that certainly doesn't look good.
  • bases_loaded
    CenterBHSFan;1816977 wrote:Well... that certainly doesn't look good.
    Swept under the rug...no big deal.


    Ptown, how many times can a dead guy vote before it's voter fraud?
  • majorspark
    QuakerOats;1816975 wrote:PS --- Mr. Foval and Mr. Creamer, the leading operatives, have just resigned or been 'fired'.
    Mr Creamer visited the White House 342 times since 2009 with 47 personal meetings with Obama. I'm sure what went on in those videos was never discussed though.

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/18/exposed-dem-operative-who-oversaw-trump-rally-agitators-visited-white-house-342-times/
  • QuakerOats
    ptown_trojans_1;1816976 wrote:Post the court cases and the election results and proof it had an impact. Prove it.

    Again: "“Look, to say that elections are rigged and all these votes are stolen – that’s like saying we never landed on the moon, frankly,” Kasich told “CBS This Morning.” “That’s how silly it is.”
    http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news...talk/92403490/

    Please respond to the criminality purchased by the democrat party, time and time again.

    Please defend the illegal operations of the democrat party with respect to vote fraud and violence instigation.

    Please defend handing the power of the presidency to THE MOST corrupt, serial lying, money-launderer in political history.

    Only a tool, a moron, or someone complicit to criminal activity could support Clinton for president.
  • rocketalum
    QuakerOats;1816982 wrote:
    Only a tool, a moron, or someone complicit to criminal activity could support Clinton for president.
    Not calling out QO, this just made a perfect example of what will be the lasting effect of this election. What little remnants of civil political discourse was left have been nuked and the ashes set on fire. No longer can we just say "I think your ideas are wrong" without also attacking the person behind them. Now it's Liberals are tools, morons, and complicit in criminal activity and Conservatives are Nazi xenophobe racist sexist monsters. Even in 2008 McCain stopped a women in her tracks who was going on about Obama being a Muslim and said something along the lines of I disagree with him but he is a fine family man. No way in hell that happens this year or any election after.

    The rhetoric driven "Well at least my guy isn't the other guy" style of this campaign will become the political norm.
  • like_that
    rocketalum;1816986 wrote:Not calling out QO, this just made a perfect example of what will be the lasting effect of this election. What little remnants of civil political discourse was left have been nuked and the ashes set on fire. No longer can we just say "I think your ideas are wrong" without also attacking the person behind them. Now it's Liberals are tools, morons, and complicit in criminal activity and Conservatives are Nazi xenophobe racist sexist monsters. Even in 2008 McCain stopped a women in her tracks who was going on about Obama being a Muslim and said something along the lines of I disagree with him but he is a fine family man. No way in hell that happens this year or any election after.

    The rhetoric driven "Well at least my guy isn't the other guy" style of this campaign will become the political norm.
    We were well on our way to this before this election. The writing has been on the wall since 2000.
  • sleeper
    Trump LOL
  • superman
    ptown_trojans_1;1816937 wrote:Are you fucking kidding me?
    Post your fucking evidence. Show me elections being rigged and exactly how it impacted. Show me an official source where the Government said fraud changed and impacted an election. Don't post your fucking right wing bullshit sites. Post actual fucking numbers and evidence to back up your bullshit claims. Otherwise, shut the fuck up on this topic. It is insane and just makes you sound like a complete idiot.

    Even Kasich is not with your dumbass logic. "“Look, to say that elections are rigged and all these votes are stolen – that’s like saying we never landed on the moon, frankly,” Kasich told “CBS This Morning.” “That’s how silly it is.”
    http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/blogs/2016/10/19/john-kasich-slams-donald-trump-rigged-election-talk/92403490/

    Post your evidence from legit, official sources. Otherwise, you are just spewing absolute bullshit like normal.
    And this kids is what happens you prove a liberal wrong.
  • like_that
    ptown_trojans_1;1816972 wrote:Those videos show absolutely jack shit. There is no actual hard evidence those led to widespread actual voter fraud. What you are talking about does not exist. You are just taking videos and extrapolating that this leads to widespread voter fraud, when in fact there is no actual evidence of the fact. You are talking bullshit, total bullshit. There is no widespread voter fraud, none. It is complete and total bullshit. You are just grasping now and accepting all the talking points by the Trump team. Even Kasich is not buying your bullshit.

    You are looking like the tool that is more to believe conspiracies than in reality.

    I usually base my opinion on fact, not bullshit claims.

    Again, show me actual evidence where voter fraud impacted an election. Show me the court case and the actual election where it occurred. Was it a House race, Senate? When and where? Were charges brought up, were people arrested? If it is as widespread as you say it is, then there would be court cases, overturned election results, from actual government sources. You know, actual facts instead of bullshit videos.
    If you cannot provide that proof to back up the claim that there is actual voter fraud, then shut the fuck up about it.

    What Trump is arguing without actual proof is a threat to the whole system of democracy. For such a claim, you better have the evidence to back that up. Right now, there is none, and it is complete bullshit.
    I am not a fan of QO's style and don't agree with him a lot (as someone who doesn't lean left), but if you don't think those videos are pretty damn revealing then you pretty much have proven my point. You are a partisan coward.
  • sleeper
    Voter fraud or not, Donald Trump is going to lose because he's a trash candidate.

    8 years of HRC incoming. Thanks GOP!
  • BoatShoes
    rocketalum;1816986 wrote:Not calling out QO, this just made a perfect example of what will be the lasting effect of this election. What little remnants of civil political discourse was left have been nuked and the ashes set on fire. No longer can we just say "I think your ideas are wrong" without also attacking the person behind them. Now it's Liberals are tools, morons, and complicit in criminal activity and Conservatives are Nazi xenophobe racist sexist monsters. Even in 2008 McCain stopped a women in her tracks who was going on about Obama being a Muslim and said something along the lines of I disagree with him but he is a fine family man. No way in hell that happens this year or any election after.

    The rhetoric driven "Well at least my guy isn't the other guy" style of this campaign will become the political norm.
    Thomas Jefferson called John Adams a hermaphrodite and he called Thomas Jefferson a godless heathen. Then, when Adams won they passed the Alien and Sedition Acts to try and criminalize dissent.
  • majorspark
    O-Trap;1816286 wrote:To be fair, the only reason the agitation is so effective is that they can always count on a Trump supporter at the rally to get violent. In a couple of the examples cited, all a person had to do was wear a certain T-shirt, and that was enough to get the confrontation going.


    True but at a any large political rally radicals are going to be present. When agitators are seeking a confrontation in these large gatherings the propensity to find violence is likely especially when instructed to instigate it.

    What is being propagated in the video is the DNC and the Hillary campaign are orchestrating these confrontations via surrogates giving them plausible deniability. That is the issue. History is rife with this type of political activity. In this case it can be witnessed with our own eyes. It is inexcusable.

    There is no doubt Trump's rhetoric fuels the narrative. He could diffuse some of this with a little political discernment. We all know political correctness is out of hand. Trump lacks the temperance to convey this balance to his followers. What we lack is a leader that can effectively educate rather than bait their followers.
  • like_that
    SCOTUS isn't supposed to represent the people. That's Congress' job. SCOTUS is to interpret the constitution.
  • majorspark
    Trump swung and missed on late term abortion.
  • Spock
    HC basically wants amnesty
  • Spock
    Bigly!!!!!
  • Spock
    She couldn't wait to blame Russia
  • Crimson streak
    Those damn Russians [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] she's so fucking dumb


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