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  • bases_loaded
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  • SportsAndLady
    Pence's gay counseling comment got way overblown by the left-wing media. That being said, Mike Pence is a religious nutjob with a vendetta against gays. But to be fair, he's the Governor of Indiana...you kinda have to have those qualities.
  • SportsAndLady
    I'm not a Trump guy, but this media bashing on Trump's "Russia" comments are laughable. How much money did they receive by the Clinton Foundation to take a CLEARLY sarcastic, joking comment on Russia and these emails and turn it into a serious "espionage" accusation? lol I mean come on
  • iclfan2
    Bill Clinton fell asleep during Hillary's speech last night because she is a very boring speaker. Overall, the Dem convention had a lot more drama than the RNC, which I am surprised about. Way more boos and empty seats at DNC, and protests/ arrests.
  • Spock
    HC has spent over $100 million in the last month on attack adds, Trump hasnt really done anything. DT has something up his sleeve.

    The first debate is going to be awesome
  • Fab4Runner
    SportsAndLady;1804945 wrote:Pence's gay counseling comment got way overblown by the left-wing media. That being said, Mike Pence is a religious nutjob with a vendetta against gays. But to be fair, he's the Governor of Indiana...you kinda have to have those qualities.
    He has about a 40% approval rating in Indiana, so even his own state doesn't like his insane anti-gay crusade.
  • gut
    Spock;1804950 wrote:HC has spent over $100 million in the last month on attack adds, Trump hasnt really done anything. DT has something up his sleeve.
    But Trump will probably raise 1/4th what Hillary will....and somehow I don't think he's reaching deep into his pocket to fund his campaign (and not just because I don't he's worth anywhere near $10B).

    Trump loses a close election in which Hillary outspends him 4-to-1 and he'll happily declare victory and privately laugh how he really didn't even want to be POTUS.
  • like_that
    SportsAndLady;1804947 wrote:I'm not a Trump guy, but this media bashing on Trump's "Russia" comments are laughable. How much money did they receive by the Clinton Foundation to take a CLEARLY sarcastic, joking comment on Russia and these emails and turn it into a serious "espionage" accusation? lol I mean come on
    lol exactly. Pure deflection. Also Hillary shouldn't be concerned if Russia has those emails. They were about wedding planning and yoga after all.
  • like_that
    Spock;1804950 wrote:HC has spent over $100 million in the last month on attack adds, Trump hasnt really done anything. DT has something up his sleeve.

    The first debate is going to be awesome
    Trump is pretty predictable at this point, so I doubt he has anything up his sleeve.

    Wiki leaks, however....
  • like_that
    iclfan2;1804949 wrote:Bill Clinton fell asleep during Hillary's speech last night because she is a very boring speaker. Overall, the Dem convention had a lot more drama than the RNC, which I am surprised about. Way more boos and empty seats at DNC, and protests/ arrests.
    Apparently the DNC hired people from Craigslist to fill empty seats from the Bernie protestors.

    I doubt Bill was sleeping though.
  • CenterBHSFan
    "The most qualified person to ever run for President of the US" has to hire from Craigslist to fill seats lol!

    She might have the job listings on her resume, but does that really mean she's qualified? Does job performance has anything to do with it?

    Unfortunately, yes. Too many people want the novelty of the first woman POTUS, too many people are deeply entrenched into the democrat ideology and too many people dislike Trump.
    Add all of that up and ... yeah...
  • Automatik
    like_that;1804957 wrote:Apparently the DNC hired people from Craigslist to fill empty seats from the Bernie protestors.

    I doubt Bill was sleeping though.
    You actually believe that? I recall something similar going on during the RNC.
  • bases_loaded
    Automatik;1804959 wrote:You actually believe that? I recall something similar going on during the RNC.
    I think you are confusing that with this.
    http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/22/emails-dnc-created-fake-craigslist-job-post-smearing-trump-organization/
  • Terry_Tate
  • iclfan2
    like_that;1804957 wrote: I doubt Bill was sleeping though.
    Ha, he may not have been sleeping but it's pretty funny that it appears he was.

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  • Automatik
    No it was another CL joke that was circulating. Can't remember what exactly.
  • like_that
    Automatik;1804959 wrote:You actually believe that? I recall something similar going on during the RNC.
    Probably not true, but it wouldn't shock me. People do get paid to protest and the convention had a lot of empty seats that they were trying to hide.
  • QuakerOats
    Q2 GDP just came out ......another anemic report of just 1.2%. The assault on the economy continues unabated by the radical regime in the WH, and Hillary will do more of the same. In fact she would raise taxes that will further damage the economy and The People (see link below). Additionally the dems gutted their platform to eliminate the planks they had on energy policy just 4 years ago; now it is all-in on wind and solar, and to hell with everything else, including fracking which has literally lowered oil/nat gas costs by half. There is not one redeeming quality about her or the radical left turn that the dem party has chosen. Hard to believe.

    http://www.atr.org/full-list-hillary-s-planned-tax-hikes
  • sleeper
    iclfan2;1804949 wrote:Bill Clinton fell asleep during Hillary's speech last night because she is a very boring speaker. Overall, the Dem convention had a lot more drama than the RNC, which I am surprised about. Way more boos and empty seats at DNC, and protests/ arrests.
    Considering the DNC hacking just revealed they rigged the election for Hillary, it's no surprise people are pissed off.
  • sleeper
    Spock;1804950 wrote:HC has spent over $100 million in the last month on attack adds, Trump hasnt really done anything. DT has something up his sleeve.

    The first debate is going to be awesome
    Trump is going to clean house in the debates. I don't know how much sway debates at this point will have in the GE but I can't see how Hillary is going to be competitive.

    If there's one thing I can praise Trump on, it's his ability to drag his opponent in the mud and beat the heck out of them. Only 3 debates though and it wouldn't surprise me at all if HRC cancels at least one of them.
  • sleeper
    gut;1804953 wrote:But Trump will probably raise 1/4th what Hillary will....and somehow I don't think he's reaching deep into his pocket to fund his campaign (and not just because I don't he's worth anywhere near $10B).

    Trump loses a close election in which Hillary outspends him 4-to-1 and he'll happily declare victory and privately laugh how he really didn't even want to be POTUS.
    Last time I checked, Trump has barely spent any of his own money and the money he has put into the campaign is in the form of a loan.

    If you look at cost per vote, Trump will break and hold the record on this forever.
  • gut
    sleeper;1804968 wrote:Last time I checked, Trump has barely spent any of his own money and the money he has put into the campaign is in the form of a loan.

    If you look at cost per vote, Trump will break and hold the record on this forever.
    I saw somewhere that the amount of free pub he's received could be worth as much as $2B. He's all over the news - doesn't need to run ads.

    Guy knows how to get the press. Most candidates don't like to do many interviews or pressers because their message has to be so carefully refined and controlled. Trump loves it, doesn't worry about what he says or how he's perceived....and he gets all the invites he wants because it's good for ratings.
  • gut
    But watch what will happen. Trump could be neck-and-neck in the polls and get slaughtered on election night because his ground game and "get out the vote" is almost non-existent.

    I think that is what makes you question just how much Trump really wants to be POTUS.
  • QuakerOats
    gut;1804970 wrote:But watch what will happen. Trump could be neck-and-neck in the polls and get slaughtered on election night because his ground game and "get out the vote" is almost non-existent.
    Record numbers turned out in the primary.

    My fear is the record amount of fraud that will occur in Dade county, Broward county, Cuyahoga county, and Franklin county in order to steal Ohio and Florida for Hillary to win the election.
  • O-Trap
    gut;1804969 wrote:I saw somewhere that the amount of free pub he's received could be worth as much as $2B. He's all over the news - doesn't need to run ads.

    Guy knows how to get the press. Most candidates don't like to do many interviews or pressers because their message has to be so carefully refined and controlled. Trump loves it, doesn't worry about what he says or how he's perceived....and he gets all the invites he wants because it's good for ratings.
    If nothing else, this is evidence that marketing is more important than actual substance in elections.

    Political acumen doesn't win elections. Marketing wins elections.