Trump vs. Hillary (NO OTHER OPTIONS)

• QuakerOats

  rocketalum;1818833 wrote:Unless Trump can flip some states that are currently blue by 5% or better, it may not matter. Clinton already at 272 when adding up all states in her favor by better than 5%...I know, rigged polls.
  
  She could lose Ohio, NC, and Florida and still pull out a 272 to 265 victory.
  
  http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_elections_electoral_college_map.html

  He'll need to get either NH to get to a tie, and then he wins, or really go 'bigly' and get PA. He is now within the margin of error there (which probably means he is tied or winning).
• jedbartlet02

  This entire election is going to come down to one number- Donald Trump is trailing among female voters by 14 points. If he loses among female voters by more than 5 he simply cannot win
• QuakerOats

  jedbartlet02;1819035 wrote:This entire election is going to come down to one number- Donald Trump is trailing among female voters by 14 points. If he loses among female voters by more than 5 he simply cannot win

  
  The gap is now down to -10 w women; but +9 among men; and Trump also leads among independents, and black turnout will be less for Clinton.
  
  It seems odd; all we heard from the left for the last few years was the Latino vote. We have heard nothing about that lately; its all about college-educated women. The media machine loves to drive their narrative.
• jedbartlet02

  QuakerOats;1819111 wrote:The gap is now down to -10 w women; but +9 among men; and Trump also leads among independents, and black turnout will be less for Clinton.
  
  It seems odd; all we heard from the left for the last few years was the Latino vote. We have heard nothing about that lately; its all about college-educated women. The media machine loves to drive their narrative.

  
  Fox News: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/26/fox-news-poll-clinton-leads-trump-by-three-points.html
  
  Clinton +27 among unmarried women, +10 among married women +18 Overall among women
  
  IBD/TIP : http://www.investors.com/politics/ibd-tipp-presidential-election-poll/
  
  Clinton +29 among unmarried women, +3 among married women + 15.5 overall among women
  
  ABC News : http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/slight-shifts-intention-aid-trump-amid-anxiety-candidates/story?id=43080562
  
  Clinton +16 overall among women
  
  LA Times/USC: http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/
  
  Clinton + 14 among women
• BoatShoes

  QuakerOats;1819111 wrote:The gap is now down to -10 w women; but +9 among men; and Trump also leads among independents, and black turnout will be less for Clinton.
  
  It seems odd; all we heard from the left for the last few years was the Latino vote. We have heard nothing about that lately; its all about college-educated women. The media machine loves to drive their narrative.

  Fascinating watching the same Romney style reasoning play out again.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Lol black vote will be very, very heavy towards Hillary. Black vote will typically be dem-leaning because dems throw out this imaginary propaganda that they "care" about black people.
  
  And also, black people hate Donald Trump. Really really hate him.
• QuakerOats

  http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/26/michael_moore_trump_victory_would_be_the_biggest_fk_you_recorded_in_human_history.html
  
  
  pretty powerful
• BoatShoes

  jedbartlet02;1819035 wrote:This entire election is going to come down to one number- Donald Trump is trailing among female voters by 14 points. If he loses among female voters by more than 5 he simply cannot win

  Tbis is part of why the dem messenging strategy is so uninspiring. They know it is all about pandering enough to female voters to cross the finish line. Being able to uild a united and amicable coalition to govern the country after you win however? Not so much.
• jedbartlet02

  SportsAndLady;1819126 wrote:Lol black vote will be very, very heavy towards Hillary. Black vote will typically be dem-leaning because dems throw out this imaginary propaganda that they "care" about black people.
  
  And also, black people hate Donald Trump. Really really hate him.

  reps
• BoatShoes

  SportsAndLady;1819126 wrote:Lol black vote will be very, very heavy towards Hillary. Black vote will typically be dem-leaning because dems throw out this imaginary propaganda that they "care" about black people.
  
  And also, black people hate Donald Trump. Really really hate him.

  Why do people say this like Black people aren't democrats? As if it is still mostly white dems? The democratic party is dominated by black folks who know what they are voting for. Might as say black people don't care about black people.
  
  Meanwhile, blacks have been an example of net winners from Obamacare and have been significantly harmed by states like Louisiana and Alabama not cooperating with Obamacare implementation.
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  BoatShoes;1819130 wrote:Why do people say this like Black people aren't democrats? As if it is still mostly white dems? The democratic party is dominated by black folks who know what they are voting for. Might as say black people don't care about black people.
  
  Meanwhile, blacks have been an example of net winners from Obamacare and have been significantly harmed by states like Louisiana and Alabama not cooperating with Obamacare implementation.

  duh.. cuz teh blackz r stoopid nd cant think fer themsulvez. They kneed two quit cryin about teh racism that doeznt exist nemore!
• BoatShoes

  QuakerOats;1818217 wrote:I've already stated I have no idea who will win.
  
  I see a path to 269 (which would do it) or 270, but that is in the face of the Media/Democrat Party/Clinton Machine triumvirate.

  How to nominate a completely trash candidate again. Step 1: Blame the librul media rather than the con media that lambasted normal republicans and fostered path for said trash candidate.
• like_that

  

  ZWICK 4 PREZ;1819134 wrote:duh.. cuz teh blackz r stoopid nd cant think fer themsulvez. They kneed two quit cryin about teh racism that doeznt exist nemore!

  Yup! They have definitely been prospering since voting for the Dems the last 50 years.
• gut

  BoatShoes;1819135 wrote:How to nominate a completely trash candidate again. Step 1: Blame the librul media rather than the con media that lambasted normal republicans and fostered path for said trash candidate.

  I'm not sure conservative media was promoting Trump, at all. Fox and Megyn Kelly tried to knock him out in the first debate. Trump has actually gotten considerably more air time on CNN, MSNBC, etc...with Fox coming in dead last, with about half the coverage of the next closest (that blurb I saw was probably 4-5 months ago, though).
  
  Trump has been a clown show, and gotten coverage because of it....proving the old adage there's no such thing as bad press.
• Heretic

  

  BoatShoes;1819135 wrote:How to nominate a completely trash candidate again. Step 1: Blame the librul media rather than the con media that lambasted normal republicans and fostered path for said trash candidate.

  That's the QQ philosophy. NOTHING is ever (OR has ever been OR will ever be) the fault of Republicans. It's either all on the Ds or all on this huge, massively corrupt system that conspires against those good, hard working, salt of the earth Rs who are just trying to make the world a better place. He's this perfect combination of completely delusional and hysterically whiny.
• jedbartlet02

  gut;1819142 wrote:I'm not sure conservative media was promoting Trump, at all. Fox and Megyn Kelly tried to knock him out in the first debate. Trump has actually gotten considerably more air time on CNN, MSNBC, etc...with Fox coming in dead last, with about half the coverage of the next closest (that blurb I saw was probably 4-5 months ago, though).
  
  Trump has been a clown show, and gotten coverage because of it....proving the old adage there's no such thing as bad press.

  Good point sir!
• QuakerOats

  Heretic;1819144 wrote:That's the QQ philosophy. NOTHING is ever (OR has ever been OR will ever be) the fault of Republicans. It's either all on the Ds or all on this huge, massively corrupt system that conspires against those good, hard working, salt of the earth Rs who are just trying to make the world a better place. He's this perfect combination of completely delusional and hysterically whiny.

  
  If only your blatherings were true; how easy life would be.
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  like_that;1819137 wrote:Yup! They have definitely been prospering since voting for the Dems the last 50 years.

  yeah blacks are definitely worse off now than 50 years ago! you're very smart!
• sleeper

  

  like_that;1819137 wrote:Yup! They have definitely been prospering since voting for the Dems the last 50 years.

  Blacks are only doing poorly because of white people holding them back.
  
  If whites would let blacks have equality in this country, they'd be doing much better like the African countries.
• sleeper

  

  I can find the video; but it was a white guy interviewing an SJW about a myriad of topics and one the discussions devolved into something like this:
  
  SJW: Blacks are subject to unfair treatment in the legal system.
  Guy: You mean the greatest system in the world right?
  SJW: No, we certainly do not have the greatest system in the world
  Guy: Name one better.
  SJW: Well certainly some of the European countries like Finland and Sweden have a superior system.
  Guy: So the only countries that have a better system are countries with more whites?
  
  The interview was absolutely savage and cringe worthy for the SJW.
• Heretic

  

  QuakerOats;1819154 wrote:If only your blatherings were true; how easy life would be.

  And if only you had dignity, this board would be less humorous to read.
• like_that

  

  ZWICK 4 PREZ;1819156 wrote:yeah blacks are definitely worse off now than 50 years ago! you're very smart!

  Never said that, but they sure as hell are not doing well now. That's like complimenting the browns for improving on a 3 win season with a 4 win season.
  
  Their unemployment numbers are terrible, they commit the majority of this country's crimes, their median income is awful, roughly 33% of their families have two parent households, etc.
  
  
  All this and they still have been voting for the Dems for the last 50 years. The same Dems who fill them with bullshit promises and give them just a little so they keep coming back to vote for them. But please tell me more how in this day and age where SJWs run amok, that white conservative males are still holding down black people.
• like_that

  

  sleeper;1819157 wrote:Blacks are only doing poorly because of white people holding them back.
  
  If whites would let blacks have equality in this country, they'd be doing much better like the African countries.

  Not white people, it's only white conservative males. DC's history of white conservative GOP mayors and council members have single handily pushed out black people into high poverty/crime areas such as anacostia and PG county.
• QuakerOats

  jedbartlet02;1819116 wrote:Fox News: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/26/fox-news-poll-clinton-leads-trump-by-three-points.html
  
  Clinton +27 among unmarried women, +10 among married women +18 Overall among women
  
  IBD/TIP : http://www.investors.com/politics/ibd-tipp-presidential-election-poll/
  
  Clinton +29 among unmarried women, +3 among married women + 15.5 overall among women
  
  ABC News : http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/slight-shifts-intention-aid-trump-amid-anxiety-candidates/story?id=43080562
  
  Clinton +16 overall among women
  
  LA Times/USC: http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/
  
  Clinton + 14 among women

  
  http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/
  
  Female -11.9
  Male +14.0
  
  http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch_oct27
  
  Female -10
  Male +9
  
  http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2016/10/26/fox-news-poll-october-26-2016/
  
  Female -10
  Male +5
  
  Independents (the largest voting block) Trump +13
• QuakerOats

  Heretic;1819144 wrote:That's the QQ philosophy. NOTHING is ever (OR has ever been OR will ever be) the fault of Republicans. It's either all on the Ds or all on this huge, massively corrupt system that conspires against those good, hard working, salt of the earth Rs who are just trying to make the world a better place. He's this perfect combination of completely delusional and hysterically whiny.

  
  I've never stated that Republicans were never to blame. Apparently your obsession(s) has clouded your comprehension.
  
  Good luck.