Republican Play - Offs

• sleeper

  

  Carson is just so fucking boring. He looks like he's falling asleep up there.
• Spock

  

  Trump cant speak of foreign affairs and spent no time on the economy giving us anything but slamming Carly. He is losing tonight
• Tiernan

  Good for you Jeb...step up.
• Tiernan

  I think Trump did fairly well considering the spotlight and focus constantly on him.
• Tiernan

  Scoring on my punch card right now is...
  
  Trump - 139
  Bush - 137
  Fiorino - -136
  Rubio - 136
  Kasich - 135
  Carson - 134
  Christi - 133
  Huckabee - 130
  Paul - 125
  Cruz - 120
  Walker - 120
• Tiernan

  OK Trump just came off as a paranoid conspiracy theorist on the vaccine issue. Lost points there Donny.
• gut

  Trump is a branding genius, but otherwise he's probably one of the dumber people on stage. The more he talks, the more people will realize he's just a dumbass troll with no filter.
• Wolves of Babylon

  After that debate I'm afraid to go outside because I may be attacked by a Islamic Nazi Terrorist.
  
  
  
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• wkfan

  I hate the format of these 'debates'.
  
  "Mr. X, please comment on the comment made my Mr. Y about you."
  
  Don't set up a cat-fight......just ask them to tell us what they would do about the economy, Iran, immigration, etc etc etc.
  
  THAT is what I want to hear from them to decide who I will back.
• Tiernan

  CNN wanted a cat fight last night - it was set up to get Trump to blow his top on somebody. I thought he was gonna take the bait a couple times but for the most part kept it under control.
• Apple

  

  I think that CNN definitely wanted a cat fight… they virtually came out and said that was their plan. Even the radio ads for the debate made it sound like it was going to be free-for-all.
  
  And what better place for the liberal media to have candidates break Reagan's eleventh commandment, ("Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican"), than at the Reagan Presidential Library?!?!?! Gotta believe there were many libs loving seeing that.
• gut

  Tiernan;1751360 wrote:CNN wanted a cat fight last night - it was set up to get Trump to blow his top on somebody. I thought he was gonna take the bait a couple times but for the most part kept it under control.

  But the Repubs, including Fox, badly want Trump to be a non-factor on his way out.
  
  Other than his entertainment value, the Left and Right are probably equally concerned about him - he's bad for the establishment and it's lapdog media because he keeps upsetting the carefully controlled messaging.
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  gut;1751386 wrote:But the Repubs, including Fox, badly want Trump to be a non-factor on his way out.
  
  Other than his entertainment value, the Left and Right are probably equally concerned about him - he's bad for the establishment and it's lapdog media because he keeps upsetting the carefully controlled messaging.

  I'd guess most of the left see Trump as the only candidate in the GOP who isnt batshit crazy and worried about gays and planned parenthood.
• sleeper

  

  Trump isn't going anywhere. He's going to be very difficult to beat. Best chance is for him to continue raining down dumb comment and dumb comment; however he seems to have survived so far with plenty of those so I don't know.
  
  If Trump wasn't a narcissistic asshole, I would support him just for the fact that he's been successful and he's not a career politician. I don't want an asshole to represent the US but I would like to see him continue running for President just for the debate performances.
• Tiernan

  Yeah I don't get the intensity of the anti-gay and anti-abortion BS being the foremost important issue in America. But about half these Repub idiots want them front & center. Jesus Cheist people quit worrying about who somebody else is fucking and whether or not they want a baby after they do finally fuck.
• sleeper

  

  Tiernan;1751409 wrote:Yeah I don't get the intensity of the anti-gay and anti-abortion BS being the foremost important issue in America. But about half these Repub idiots want them front & center. Jesus Cheist people quit worrying about who somebody else is fucking and whether or not they want a baby after they do finally fuck.

  The Republican party needs to stop with the BibleThumping or they will never win be in the white house again. It's only going to get harder as the older biblethumpers die off and the younger crowd who is much less religious and much more socially liberal starts taking over. I cringe every time I hear anything related to religion or backwards social beliefs and is the #1 reason a Republican has never gotten my vote.
• gut

  ZWICK 4 PREZ;1751391 wrote:I'd guess most of the left see Trump as the only candidate in the GOP who isnt batshit crazy ..

  Likely, since he's probably one of the dumbest on the stage of candidates. The left likes it some stupid.
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  gut;1751423 wrote:Likely, since he's probably one of the dumbest on the stage of candidates. The left likes it some stupid.

  Yes bc being scared of gays is highly intelligent.
• HitsRus

  

  Unfortunately for the 'Pubs, the fundamentalist Christian wing is the most vocal and fervent wing of the party, and the Dums love to use that to generalize and smear all Republicans as being of the same cloth.
  

  Yeah I don't get the intensity of the anti-gay and anti-abortion BS

  That doesn't surprise me....most narcissists can't understand why people think differently than they do.
  Homosexuality has been considered a perversion in most of the world for thousands of years. People have been raised to believe in the depths of their being that it is wrong. Yet some expect that in the span of a few years that people can/will abandon their deep seeded beliefs in some sort of immediate, universal epiphany. People need time to adapt...and to come to their own conclusions about homosexuality in a secular society.
  
  While equal rights for all people regardless of sexual orientation is a righteous cause, it is a mistake to link that to abortion, which is a grisly violation of natural law. It cuts across all religion and gender. Almost everybody understands the need for laws such that people act responsibly...we have laws for traffic...laws for guns...laws for safety etc. etc . But somehow, when it comes to human sexuality, we allow and even subsidize irresponsibility..stripping the rights from the most vulnerable and awarding the power of life and death to the irresponsible.
• rydawg5

  HitsRus;1751460 wrote:Unfortunately for the 'Pubs, the fundamentalist Christian wing is the most vocal and fervent wing of the party, and the Dums love to use that to generalize and smear all Republicans as being of the same cloth.
  
  
  
  That doesn't surprise me....most narcissists can't understand why people think differently than they do.
  Homosexuality has been considered a perversion in most of the world for thousands of years. People have been raised to believe in the depths of their being that it is wrong. Yet some expect that in the span of a few years that people can/will abandon their deep seeded beliefs in some sort of immediate, universal epiphany. People need time to adapt...and to come to their own conclusions about homosexuality in a secular society.
  
  While equal rights for all people regardless of sexual orientation is a righteous cause, it is a mistake to link that to abortion, which is a grisly violation of natural law. It cuts across all religion and gender. Almost everybody understands the need for laws such that people act responsibly...we have laws for traffic...laws for guns...laws for safety etc. etc . But somehow, when it comes to human sexuality, we allow and even subsidize irresponsibility..stripping the rights from the most vulnerable and awarding the power of life and death to the irresponsible.

  I got to grow up in church (3x's a week)
  
  Christians should tread carefully with politics, IMO.
  
  Jesus makes it pretty clear that you will be judged how you treat the poor, the weak, your enemies. He says your love in regards to how you treat those people is how much you actually love the Lord. (matthew 25:34ish)
  
  A follower of Christ cannot align very well with either a democrat or republican due to (Abortion & Stinginess)
  
  When you get wrapped up in being a lemming to the right or left you learn how not to follow the teaching of Christ but pervert your beliefs to tow a party line.
  
  You do have it right though, the "Church", those who were raised to religious and to practice works to avoid hell, are really offended by Gays and all them Evil people out there, unjust and undeserving of our help, even if the Bible teaches love & peacemaking.
• Tiernan

  So we have discovered that HitsRUs is one dangerous whacked out homophobic pro lifer...good to know
• HitsRus

  

  No, you just proved you are poor at reading comprehension.
  Homophobe?... I don't think so.
  I said.....

  While equal rights for all people regardless of sexual orientation is a righteous cause

  I am an unashamed advocate for unborn babies...pro life as you say.
  so you're comprehension is about 50%... Is that "good" for you?
• HitsRus

  

  rydawg5;1751463 wrote:I got to grow up in church (3x's a week)
  
  Christians should tread carefully with politics, IMO.
  
  Jesus makes it pretty clear that you will be judged how you treat the poor, the weak, your enemies. He says your love in regards to how you treat those people is how much you actually love the Lord. (matthew 25:34ish)
  
  A follower of Christ cannot align very well with either a democrat or republican due to (Abortion & Stinginess)
  
  When you get wrapped up in being a lemming to the right or left you learn how not to follow the teaching of Christ but pervert your beliefs to tow a party line.
  
  You do have it right though, the "Church", those who were raised to religious and to practice works to avoid hell, are really offended by Gays and all them Evil people out there, unjust and undeserving of our help, even if the Bible teaches love & peacemaking.

  Are you saying that Christians are not sympathetic to the poor???? I don't know of a church group,at all, that doesn't have at least one outreach program to the poorest in their community.
  Are you saying that Republicans are stingy??? I would say that Republicans compared person to person, donate far more to charititable causes then there Democratic counterparts.
• BoatShoes

  Let's just say this. How terrible really has the Democratic Party been and Barack Obama in the mind of average people if millions are even considering voting for these guys? Watched the debate with my dad who has spent his whole life running the family business and is not into politics. He was a big John McCain fan because he respected his military record and he doesn't really care one way or the other about Obama. He is sitting there with this "wtf" look on his face as these guys are up there talking about war, vaccines, gay marriage, planned parenthood.
  
  A damn genius pediatric neurosurgeon doesn't slam Trump when he claims that a baby got autism from a horse needle in front of millions of people in a U.S. Presidential Debate. Strange times.
• rydawg5

  HitsRus;1751503 wrote:Are you saying that Christians are not sympathetic to the poor???? I don't know of a church group,at all, that doesn't have at least one outreach program to the poorest in their community.
  Are you saying that Republicans are stingy??? I would say that Republicans compared person to person, donate far more to charititable causes then there Democratic counterparts.

  
  Are Christians sympathetic to the poor? Yes. Are non-Christians sympathetic to the poor? Yes.
  
  New Testament says in a very summarized fashion: What good is it to think you are loving because you love your mom/brother? Even a sinner loves their moms. That doesn't make you a better Christian because you love your mom. What does, though, is that you can love strangers/enemies/gays as yourself. To be a peacemaker. This is how much you actually love God. Loving your neighbor is the Greatest Commandment.
  
  It bothers me that we are so set on being divisive as Christians. I just don't feel like that's our purpose. But we are meant to do different things, so maybe it's just not for me.