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  • isadore
    Spock;1811730 wrote:Never quite understood why news outlets have something to gain from taking sides. Kind of against what they are actually for.
    gosh a ruddies are you kidding, Fox has made itself a success providing tilted propaganda for the deplorable segment of the American population.
  • QuakerOats
    ^^^ most know that this thing runs deep. This guy better watch his back; could end up on the body count list.
  • majorspark
    LOL

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  • QuakerOats
  • CenterBHSFan
    majorspark;1811838 wrote:LOL

    [video=youtube;rzBZqNpu-NQ][/video]
    Maaaaaaaaaaaan! He HAD to feel pretty mortified when the audience is laughing at him.
  • QuakerOats
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clinton-proposes-65-tax-on-largest-estates-1474559914


    So let's get this straight ---- she lives the high-life off of hundreds of millions of dollars in donations to her phony foundation, but if you are a schlep in the real world who works hard and builds up a little wealth, she wants BIG government to be able to steal 65% of it when you die.

    Never thought Id' say it, but ..............Trump that bitch
  • CenterBHSFan
    Per the article above:
    “Secretary Clinton understands that it is appropriate to ask the top three-tenths of 1%, the very wealthiest people in this country, to pay their fair share of taxes so that we can provide a child tax credit

    I'd really not want to essentially pay people to have babies. I'm not a fan of EIC to begin with.

    Also, this is interesting!
    “It is the height of hypocrisy for Hillary Clinton to offer an even more dramatic hike in the death tax at the same time she uses exotic tax loopholes reserved for the very wealthy to exempt her Chappaqua estate,” said Jason Miller, a spokesman for Mr. Trump, referring to Mrs. Clinton’s use of residence trusts in New York to lower the value of her taxable estate.
  • gut
    CenterBHSFan;1812173 wrote:Also, this is interesting!

    Chelsea be like "you're not really going to raise the estate tax, are you mom?"
  • iclfan2
    Anyone in favor of an estate tax is an idiot.
  • QuakerOats
    Incredible:


    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Hillary Clinton's former chief of staff, Cheryl Mills, and two other staff members were granted immunity deals in exchange for their cooperation in the now-closed FBI investigation into Clinton's use of a private email server as secretary of state, says a Republican congressman.
    Rep. Jason Chaffetz, chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, told the Associated Press on Friday that Mills gave federal investigators access to her laptop on the condition that findings couldn't be used against her.
    Chaffetz said he was "absolutely stunned" that the FBI would cut a deal with someone as close to the investigation as Mills.
    "No wonder they couldn't prosecute a case," Chaffetz said. "They were handing out immunity deals like candy."
    A yearlong investigation by the FBI focused on whether Clinton sent or received classified information using the private server, which was not authorized for such messages.
    FBI Director James Comey said in July that his agents hadn't found evidence to support any criminal charge or direct evidence that Clinton's private server had been hacked. He suggested that hackers working for a foreign government may have been so sophisticated they wouldn't have left behind any evidence of a break-in.
    The FBI had already said it granted immunity to Bryan Pagliano, a tech expert who set up Clinton's email server, as well as Paul Combetta, a computer specialist.
    Chaffetz said in addition to Mills, others granted immunity include John Bentel, then-director of the State Department's Office of Information Resources Management, and Clinton aide Heather Samuelson.
    Chaffetz said he is looking forward to asking Comey questions about the immunity deals when Comey testifies Wednesday before the House Judiciary Committee. Chaffetz, R-Utah, is also a member of that committee."
  • QuakerOats
    For the young whippersnappers here, this is a refresher on the early scandals, when the patterns of deception began to emerge:

    Travel Back to an Early Clinton Scandal
    Voters have the impression Hillary isn’t trustworthy. She’s been reinforcing it since 1993.



    Wall Street Journal
    By Peggy Noonan
    Sept. 15, 2016 7:27 p.m. ET

    The question came up this week at a political panel: Why don’t people like Hillary Clinton?
    Why do they always believe the worst? Why, when some supposed scandal breaks and someone says she’s hiding something, do people, including many of her supporters, assume it’s true?
    The answer is that Mrs. Clinton has been in America’s national life for a quarter-century, and in that time people watched, observed and got an impression of her character.
    If you give the prompt “Clinton scandal” to someone under 30, they might say “emails,” or Benghazi” or “Clinton Foundation,” or now “health questions.” But for those who are older, whose memories encompass the Clinton era, the scandals stretch back further, all the way to her beginnings as a national figure.
    Seventeen years ago, when word first came that Mrs. Clinton might come to New York, a state where she’d never lived, and seek its open U.S. Senate seat, I wrote a book called “The Case Against Hillary Clinton.” It asserted that she would win and use the Senate to run for president, likely in 2008. That, I argued, was a bad thing. In the previous eight years she’d done little to elevate our politics and much to lower it. So I laid out the case as best I could, starting with the first significant scandal of Bill Clinton’s presidency.
    It is worth revisiting to make a point about why her poll numbers on trustworthiness are so bad.
    It was early 1993. The Clintons had just entered the White House after a solid win that broke the Republicans’ 12-year hold. He was a young and dashing New Democrat. She too was something new, a professional woman with modern attitudes and pronounced policy interests. They had captured the national imagination and were in a strong position.
    Then she—not he—messed it up. It was the first big case in which she showed poor judgment, a cool willingness to mislead, and a level of political aggression that gave even those around her pause. It was after this mess that her critics said she’d revealed the soul of an East German border guard.
    The Clinton White House was internally a dramatic one, as George Stephanopoulos later recounted in “All Too Human,” his sharply observed, and in retrospect somewhat harrowing, memoir of his time as Mr. Clinton’s communications director and senior adviser. He reported staffers and officials yelling, crying, shouting swear words and verbally threatening each other. It was a real hothouse. There was a sense the gargoyles had taken over the cathedral. But that wouldn’t become apparent until later.
    On May 19, 1993, less than four months into the administration, the seven men who had long worked in the White House travel office were suddenly and brutally fired. The seven nonpartisan government workers, who helped arrange presidential trips, served at the pleasure of the president. But each new president had kept them on because they were good at their jobs.
    A veteran civil servant named Billy Dale had worked in the office 30 years and headed it the last 10. He and his colleagues were ordered to clear out their desks and were escorted from the White House, which quickly announced they were the subject of a criminal investigation by the FBI.
    They were in shock. So were members of the press, who knew Mr. Dale and his colleagues as honest and professional. A firestorm ensued.
    Under criticism the White House changed its story. They said that they were just trying to cut unneeded staff and save money. Then they said they were trying to impose a competitive bidding process. They tried a new explanation—the travel office shake-up was connected to Vice President Al Gore’s National Performance Review. (Almost immediately Mr. Gore said that was not true.) The White House then said it was connected to a campaign pledge to cut the White House staff by 25%. Finally they claimed the workers hadn’t been fired at all but placed on indefinite “administrative leave.”
    Why so many stories? Because the real one wasn’t pretty.
    It emerged in contemporaneous notes of a high White House staffer that the travel-office workers were removed because Mrs. Clinton wanted to give their jobs—their “slots,” as she put it, according to the notes of director of administration David Watkins—to political operatives who’d worked for Mr. Clinton’s campaign. And she wanted to give the travel office business itself to loyalists. There was a travel company based in Arkansas with long ties to the Clintons. There was a charter travel company founded by Harry Thomason, a longtime friend and fundraiser, which had provided services in the 1992 campaign. If the travel office were privatized and put to bid, he could get the business. On top of that, a staffer named Catherine Cornelius, said to be the new president’s cousin, also wanted to run the travel office. In his book “Blood Sport,” the reporter James B. Stewart described her as “dazzled by her proximity to power, full of a sense of her own importance.” Soon rumors from her office, and others, were floating through the White House: The travel office staff were disloyal crooks.
    The White House pressed the FBI to investigate, FBI agents balked—on what evidence?—but ultimately there was an investigation, and an audit.
    All along Mrs. Clinton publicly insisted she had no knowledge of the firings. Then it became barely any knowledge, then barely any involvement. When the story blew up she said under oath that she had “no role in the decision to terminate the employees.” She did not “direct that any action be taken by anyone.” In a deposition she denied having had a role in the firings, and said she was unable to remember conversations with various staffers with any specificity.
    A General Accounting Office report found she did play a role. But three years later a memo written by David Watkins to the White House chief of staff, recounting the history of the firings, suddenly surfaced. (“Suddenly surfaced” is a phrase one reads a lot in Clinton scandal stories.) It showed Mrs. Clinton herself directed them. “There would be hell to pay,” he wrote, if staffers did not conform “to the first lady’s wishes.”
    Billy Dale was indicted on charges including embezzlement. The trial lasted almost two weeks. Mr. Dale, it emerged, could have kept better books. The jury acquitted him in less than two hours. In the end he retired, as did his assistant. The five others were given new government jobs.
    So—that was the Clintons’ first big Washington scandal. It showed what has now become the Clinton Scandal Ritual: lie, deny, revise, claim not to remember specifics, stall for time. When it passes, call the story “old news” full of questions that have already been answered. “As I’ve repeatedly said . . .”
    More scandals would follow. They all showed poor judgment on the part of the president, and usually Mrs. Clinton. They all included a startling willingness—and ability—to dissemble.
    People watched and got a poor impression.
    The point is it didn’t start the past few years, it started almost a quarter-century ago. You have to wonder, what are the chances it will change?
  • like_that
    I highly doubt there was an actual folder titled "pay to play."
  • bases_loaded
    Wasn't that the title of emails we say leaked already?


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  • QuakerOats
    From the Washington Examiner .................................... bizarre:

    Immunity agreements offered to two of Hillary Clinton's top aides prevented the FBI from looking into the circumstances surrounding the use of BleachBit, a digital deletion tool, to destroy the former secretary of state's emails.
    In a letter to Attorney General Loretta Lynch Wednesday, four Republican committee chairmen demanded to know why Cheryl Mills and Heather Samuelson, two witnesses who also served as Clinton's personal attorneys, were granted such expansive protections despite the FBI's awareness that they had participated in potentially illegal activities.
    For example, the FBI agreed to limit its search to emails written after June 1, 2014, but before Feb. 1, 2015. By doing so, investigators were barred from looking at emails authored around the time Mills and David Kendall, Clinton's lead attorney, held a pair of conference calls with technology contractor Paul Combetta that immediately preceded his use of BleachBit to erase thousands of Clinton's emails.
    The GOP lawmakers noted that, before the FBI signed off on the immunity deals, "it already knew of the conference calls between Secretary Clinton's attorneys and Mr. Combetta, his use of BleachBit and the resulting deletions, further casting doubt on why the FBI would enter into such a limited evidentiary scope of review with respect to the laptops."
  • QuakerOats
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/05/doj-abruptly-drops-case-against-gun-runner-who-threatened-to-reveal-clintons-libya-dealings.html


    And this little remarkable develop also ...... every day is a new adventure with the criminal candidate
  • QuakerOats
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/06/fbi-files-reveal-missing-email-boxes-in-clinton-case-allegations-evidence-tampering.html

    Today's adventure ..................... it never ends. Yet some continue to support this criminal.
  • isadore
    Gosh a ruddies Hillary is better than Donald Trump.
  • Token
    The entire Government is crooked. Lets just get it over with. Get that c-word Clinton into office. Hopefully the stress kills her off here shortly and Tim Kaine doesn't fuck things up beyond repair.
  • CenterBHSFan
    lawl!
  • QuakerOats
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOoKAA2ajqQ


    The Clinton double standard is immeasurable.......simply disgraceful. And Mike Pence was right, again.
  • isadore
    Gosh a ruddies, Hillary -I think she's a very, very good person. I think she's gone through terrible times. That group on stage, what an unattractive group. Paula Jones-loser.
  • superman
    isadore;1814755 wrote: Gosh a ruddies, Hillary -I think she's a very, very good person. I think she's gone through terrible times. That group on stage, what an unattractive group. Paula Jones-loser.
    Isadore disparaging rape victims. Classy guy
  • isadore
    superman;1814757 wrote:Isadore disparaging rape victims. Classy guy
    gosh a ruddies. I forgot the quotation marks. Those were all quotes from Donald Trump. He said every one of those things about Hillary and that group of women.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/09/politics/trump-clinton-sex-then-vs-now/index.html