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  • gut
    By the way, you and Boatshoes disappeared for like 3-4 months. Did it really take you that long to sign-up for Obamakare?
  • isadore
    you have no sense of perspective or the degree of loss. The incompetence demonstrated by the national security adviser leading up to 9/11, the false claims about WMDs and on the conduct of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq dwarf the Benghazi incident.
  • HitsRus
    ...and you have no sense or perspective of degree of 'incompetence' (your word).
  • isadore
    HitsRus;1583557 wrote:...and you have no sense or perspective of degree of 'incompetence' (your word).
    the degree of incompetence that lead to 9/11, false claims of WMDs and the inept policies of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan dwarf Benghazi. Ms. Condalezza Rice bears major responsibility for them.
  • Manhattan Buckeye
    isadore;1583606 wrote:the degree of incompetence that lead to 9/11, false claims of WMDs and the inept policies of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan dwarf Benghazi. Ms. Condalezza Rice bears major responsibility for them.
    Did any person ever blame a youtube video as in the case of Benghazi that was obviously unrelated to the incident? Its almost as if the DEMS brag about being stupid.
  • isadore
    Manhattan Buckeye;1583654 wrote:Did any person ever blame a youtube video as in the case of Benghazi that was obviously unrelated to the incident? Its almost as if the DEMS brag about being stupid.
    January 15, 2014
    Senate Report on Benghazi
    “It remains unclear if any group or person exercised overall command and control of the attacks or whether extremist group leaders directed their members to participate,” the report said. “Some intelligence suggests the attacks were likely put together in short order, following that day’s violent protests in Cairo against an inflammatory video.”
    The American-made video, which denigrated Islam and was posted on YouTube, set off a number of protests across the Middle East.
    An investigation published by The New York Times last month found that anger over the video had played a significant role in precipitating the Benghazi attack.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/16/world/middleeast/senate-report-finds-benghazi-attack-was-preventable.html?_r=0
    　
    http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/benghazi2014/benghazi.pdf
    　
  • HitsRus
    ^^^wow...just unbelievable. Multiple failures from multiple people over and over....multiple intelligence reports ignored...SMH.
  • isadore
    HitsRus;1583710 wrote:^^^wow...just unbelievable. Multiple failures from multiple people over and over....multiple intelligence reports ignored...SMH.
    but Condi showed ineptitude and dishonesty on so much larger situations over so many years and costing so many lives.
  • BoatShoes
    gut;1583538 wrote:By the way, you and Boatshoes disappeared for like 3-4 months. Did it really take you that long to sign-up for Obamakare?
    LoL you're anti-Obummer obsession is weird...
  • Manhattan Buckeye
    "An investigation published by The New York Times last month found that anger over the video had played a significant role in precipitating the Benghazi attack."

    Is this the same article that the administration even came out to say was incorrect? At some point you have to realize that you're believing in a myth. You are being made into a fool...does that bother you at all?
  • believer
    Manhattan Buckeye;1583780 wrote:"An investigation published by The New York Times last month found that anger over the video had played a significant role in precipitating the Benghazi attack."

    Is this the same article that the administration even came out to say was incorrect? At some point you have to realize that you're believing in a myth. You are being made into a fool...does that bother you at all?
    [video=youtube;O9TXtxyoEik][/video]
  • HitsRus
    ...and what of the Big Kahuna himself? The assault was 7 hours long with real time reports on the ground and drones overhead. Who was managing the crisis?
  • believer
    HitsRus;1583805 wrote:...and what of the Big Kahuna himself? The assault was 7 hours long with real time reports on the ground and drones overhead. Who was managing the crisis?
    I'm thinking Biden. He has tons of foreign policy experience.
  • HitsRus
    ^^^video everywhere...except the situation room?
  • gut
    HitsRus;1583805 wrote:...and what of the Big Kahuna himself? The assault was 7 hours long with real time reports on the ground and drones overhead. Who was managing the crisis?
    Most likely Valerie Jarrett...

    But I still can't believe we've never heard where Obama was and why he wasn't actively involved. Only reason I can think of is A) drunk or stoned or B) gettin' some strange. Quite possibly both. It was, after all, a Sunday - probably some golf with Tiger and then a few 8-balls with hookers.
  • believer
    HitsRus;1584126 wrote:^^^video everywhere...except the situation room?
    You thought I was serious? ;)
  • isadore
    gosh dwarfed by condi, george and dick's in their duplicity and ineptitude.
  • HitsRus
    ^^^^you forgot Don.


    Just goes to show you that no matter who is in "charge", government rarely makes things better.
  • isadore
    very true about Don
    But with Benghazi there seems to be such a lack of proportion on the right
    as compared to the duplicity and ineptitude involved with 9/11, Afghanistan and Iraq

    or in a more comparative situation with the Bombings of the US embassy and the marine barracks in Lebanon during the Reagan administration
    which dwarf Benghazi in their lose of American life and in the unbelievable ineptitude involved.
  • HitsRus
    If you are going to bring that up, then let's not leave out Bill. Truth is, it was a completely different situation in terms of our intelligence capabilities and what they were geared for and tuned into. It's hard to believe that you can make that comparison.
  • isadore
    HitsRus;1584686 wrote:If you are going to bring that up, then let's not leave out Bill. Truth is, it was a completely different situation in terms of our intelligence capabilities and what they were geared for and tuned into. It's hard to believe that you can make that comparison.
    the situations are very analogous, except for their scale, hundreds of Americans died because of the ineptitude of the Reagan administration
    hundreds of American servicemen died because of the incomprehensible rules of engagement inflicted on them by Reagan folks.
  • HitsRus
    lol.
  • isadore
    ^^^^^
    gosh a ruddies most people don't find the deaths of hundreds of American service people and diplomats amusing.
  • HitsRus
    The LOL is at you.
    the situations are very analogous, except for their scale
    Thanks for making my point about Benghazi !
  • isadore
    ^^^^
    only if your point was that Benghazi was insignificant compared to the George\Dick\Don\Condi fiascoes 9/11, Iraq or Afghanistan
    or Reagan produced calamities at our embassy and marine barracks in Beirut