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• ptown_trojans_1

  

  QuakerOats;1489438 wrote:http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/obamas-brother-linked-to-muslim-brotherhood/

  SO, wait, we have been supporting the Muslim Brotherhood all along?!!!! Shit son, that explains it all then.
  Yeah, it doesn't. Weak article and does not even start to explain the U.S. policy in Egypt.
  So, a brother of the President has sway over the entire Egyptian U.S. foreign policy?
  
  Honestly? Do you actually believe this stuff?
  
  Do you even remember when Morsi was elected? He was given a very cool reception by the U.S. and was met with skepticism the whole time in office.
  And the U.S. has more supported the military, not the Brotherhood, over the past 2 years.
  So, the U.S. policy is more in favor the military and not the Brotherhood, which kinda of makes the article's main point weak, because it is a stupid argument.
  
  And if the U.S. was in favor of the brotherhood, why did we not scream and cry when they arrested their spirtual leader the other day?
• JU-ICE

  http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/20/white-house-condemns-arrest-of-muslim-brotherhood-spiritual-leader/
• Tiernan

  No way is the USA gonna let the Suez to fall into control by the insurgents or Russians, plans to take the canal and operate it are being discussed and planned for from the Pentagon to Langley. With Syria heating up and demanding a response due tthe gas attack, we are weeks away from a major confrontation that will define the Obama administration.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  Tiernan;1490200 wrote:No way is the USA gonna let the Suez to fall into control by the insurgents or Russians, plans to take the canal and operate it are being discussed and planned for from the Pentagon to Langley. With Syria heating up and demanding a response due tthe gas attack, we are weeks away from a major confrontation that will define the Obama administration.

  Huh? Egypt already owns the canal and is bound to let vessels pass in war or peace. If not, the U.S. can pull the military aid.
  And, if war is anyway, it is Syria, not Egypt.
  
  Although, I will say this administration is extremely risk averse into sending troops into war. So, I doubt the President will suddenly risk a massive war.
• Tiernan

  Yeah Egypt owns the canal and is operated by the Govt which right now is being contested. If the Moozlums somehow gain control they could try to limit US access to the canal and Russia has already made it known they will intervene in any attempt by the US to gain operational control of the Suez.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  Tiernan;1490242 wrote:Yeah Egypt owns the canal and is operated by the Govt which right now is being contested. If the Moozlums somehow gain control they could try to limit US access to the canal and Russia has already made it known they will intervene in any attempt by the US to gain operational control of the Suez.

  Uhh, they were in control. Morsi was a Brotherhood member and he didn't do that.
  The military is in charge now.
  And besides, even if the Muslims wanted to, take power back, and then close the canal to the U.S., they cannot as it would violate an international treaty, opening them up to a whole host of other problems.
  Plus, U.S. military aid would go bye-bye.
  
  The canal is the least of the worries.
  Not sure what you are talking about.
  I'd be more worried about what the hell is going on in the Sinai and a power vacuum there.
  
  The 1956 Suez crisis will not happen again. All learned what can happen.
• majorspark

  

  ptown_trojans_1;1490246 wrote:I'd be more worried about what the hell is going on in the Sinai and a power vacuum there.

  I agree. The canal can be very narrow and you can't have lawless loons running about on the Sinai. The US navy is all over this but this is what they have to deal with. Not to mention other nations and commercial shipping.
  
  
• Tiernan

  Morsi was a moderate MoozBro and was more than likely biding his time before he did something really stupid. Military coups are usually never good things but in this case it was probably the lesser of two evils.
• TedSheckler

  

  It's not a coup since we're still giving them money, emirite?
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  Tiernan;1490355 wrote:Morsi was a moderate MoozBro and was more than likely biding his time before he did something really stupid. Military coups are usually never good things but in this case it was probably the lesser of two evils.

  I guess...I just don't see that as very likely.
  I'd say the bigger threat from radicals is in Syria. That seems to be the new gathering place and training ground for terrorists, especially in Far eastern Syria.
• QuakerOats

  TedSheckler;1490389 wrote:It's not a coup since we're still giving them money, emirite?

  
  Correct, not a coup ............. and no one died in Benghazi and no one lied.
  
  
  All is right in the world since we got rid of Bush, just as advertised.
  
  
  
  Nobel Peace Prizer in the WH.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  QuakerOats;1490535 wrote:Correct, not a coup ............. and no one died in Benghazi and no one lied.
  
  
  All is right in the world since we got rid of Bush, just as advertised.
  
  
  
  Nobel Peace Prizer in the WH.

  Man, what great insight!
  Typical man, all political rhetoric, no substance.
  Just BS language.
  Can you actually add any analysis? Or are you incapable of that?
  
  In actual news, the military is cracking down, and yesterday was supposed to be a day of protests by the Brotherhood, but the turnout was very small, with very little clashes and from what I read, no deaths.
  So, looks like everyone is simmering down.
  Now, the question comes to actual governing. Can the military make the transition to actual ruling in a democracy?
  But, fears of a radical takeover again are vanishing.
• believer

  

  ptown_trojans_1;1490725 wrote:In actual news, the military is cracking down, and yesterday was supposed to be a day of protests by the Brotherhood, but the turnout was very small, with very little clashes and from what I read, no deaths.
  So, looks like everyone is simmering down.
  Now, the question comes to actual governing. Can the military make the transition to actual ruling in a democracy?
  But, fears of a radical takeover again are vanishing.

  Perhaps for now. But make no mistake, radical Islam is a very powerful force in Egypt, the region, and Europe for that matter.
  
  Those hostilities are still simmering and not likely to wane any time soon. Why should it? It's been there for centuries.
  
  The superior firepower of the Egyptian military may rule the day, but the Brotherhood (or whatever new face of radical Islam emerges) will always be there.
  
  Fears of a radical takeover may be vanishing at the moment but rest assured that whenever the military rules an actual ruling democracy takes a long time to take root. Plenty of time for Islamic radicals to regroup.
  
  It's not a matter of if but a matter of when. It's an unfortunate political reality of radical Islam.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  believer;1490737 wrote:Perhaps for now. But make no mistake, radical Islam is a very powerful force in Egypt, the region, and Europe for that matter.
  
  Those hostilities are still simmering and not likely to wane any time soon. Why should it? It's been there for centuries.
  
  The superior firepower of the Egyptian military may rule the day, but the Brotherhood (or whatever new face of radical Islam emerges) will always be there.
  
  Fears of a radical takeover may be vanishing at the moment but rest assured that whenever the military rules an actual ruling democracy takes a long time to take root. Plenty of time for Islamic radicals to regroup.
  
  It's not a matter of if but a matter of when. It's an unfortunate political reality of radical Islam.

  I won't disagree, but say the fear of that is becoming more apparent in the Levant: Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq again.
  The Syrian civil war, the bombings in Lebanon and Iraq yesterday show that radicals are training and growing in those areas.
  Whereas the Brotherhood is waning in power and influence.
• Heretic

  

  ptown_trojans_1;1490725 wrote:Can you actually add any analysis? Or are you incapable of that?

  By now, we should all know the answer to those questions. Which is "derp".
• Tiernan

  We gotta whole nest of radicals simmering just below boiling point right in GD Detroit. Quite a few supporters off
  Morsi in the local Moozlum paper in Detroit.
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