The Hyperbolic Smearing of the President

• isadore

  wkfan;1313278 wrote:So you are saying that everyone who votes for Romney is a racist?

  that would be a slight overstatement.
• wkfan

  isadore;1313288 wrote:that would be a slight overstatement.

  Slight....really?
  
  My guess is that far more people vote for BHO because he is black than vote for Romney because he is white.
• isadore

  wkfan;1313292 wrote:Slight....really?
  
  My guess is that far more people vote for BHO because he is black than vote for Romney because he is white.

  gosh you would be wrong.
• wkfan

  isadore;1313300 wrote:gosh you would be wrong.

  prove it.
• isadore

  wkfan;1313307 wrote:prove it.

  "In all, 51 percent of Americans now express explicit anti-black attitudes, compared with 48 percent in a similar 2008 survey."
  "Republicans were more likely than Democrats to express racial prejudice in the questions measuring explicit racism (79 percent among Republicans compared with 32 percent among Democrats),
  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/27/racial-views-new-polls-sh_n_2029423.html
  21% of the Republicans are lying.
• wkfan

  isadore;1313348 wrote:"In all, 51 percent of Americans now express explicit anti-black attitudes, compared with 48 percent in a similar 2008 survey."
  "Republicans were more likely than Democrats to express racial prejudice in the questions measuring explicit racism (79 percent among Republicans compared with 32 percent among Democrats),
  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/27/racial-views-new-polls-sh_n_2029423.html
  21% of the Republicans are lying.

  Sorry, that does not prove a thing except that numbers and percentages can be manipulated to 'prove' anything you want them to say.
  
  Your first quote should say that "In all, 51 percent of Americans surveyed now......". THAT would have some factual basis......
  
  Based on your posting history here...you will believe anything that you want that sheds a negative light on an ideology that you disagree with...that is your right to have and to hold that opinion. But that is all that it is...your opinion, nothing more.
• QuakerOats

  http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/110212-632060-romney-ryan-will-at-least-try-to-fix-problems.htm#ixzz2B7TFyUmz
  
  
  
  Well said.
• isadore

  wkfan;1313357 wrote:Sorry, that does not prove a thing except that numbers and percentages can be manipulated to 'prove' anything you want them to say.
  
  Your first quote should say that "In all, 51 percent of Americans surveyed now......". THAT would have some factual basis......
  
  Based on your posting history here...you will believe anything that you want that sheds a negative light on an ideology that you disagree with...that is your right to have and to hold that opinion. But that is all that it is...your opinion, nothing more.

  gosh a ruddies, you suffer from cognitive dissonance.
• elitesmithie05

  I just don't understand why I can't disagree with him because I don't agree with socialistic polices and when he took office he had 8% unemployment and he promised 5% and its still freaking 8% 48 months later? How is that being a racist? Why isn't he allowed to be called out on doing a shitty job?
• gut

  elitesmithie05;1313422 wrote: Why isn't he allowed to be called out on doing a ****ty job?

  Because in the liberal bubble he's not doing a shitty job (well, I suppose technically he is but it isn't his fault). Therefore only a racist could see it differently and call him on it.
• isadore

  elitesmithie05;1313422 wrote:I just don't understand why I can't disagree with him because I don't agree with socialistic polices and when he took office he had 8% unemployment and he promised 5% and its still freaking 8% 48 months later? How is that being a racist? Why isn't he allowed to be called out on doing a ****ty job?

  Gosh a ruddies what is the truth. Well President Obama was handed the worst economic situation faced by any President in 70 years. He was given an economy in free fall. The Fed had used up the best of its monetary tools priming the Bush economy. And he had a Republican Congressional opposition to efforts to turn the economy around.
  “Romney says Obama “said by now [unemployment] would be down to 5.4 percent.” But Romney is referring to a speculative report issued at the beginning of Obama’s presidency containing projections — not promises. Those projections relied on prevailing economic models that quickly proved to have underestimated the depths of the recession at that time.”
  http://factcheck.org/2012/09/romneys-stump-speech/
  Of course the enemies of our African American President try to cherry pick excuses to vote against him. Any cover to hide their true reason.
• TedSheckler

  

  isadore;1313431 wrote:Well President Obama was handed the worst economic situation faced by any President in 70 years.

  
  Reagan disagrees.
• isadore

  TedSheckler;1313443 wrote:Reagan disagrees.

  I just asked Reagan if he disagreed and he said nothing, so he is good with it.
• gut

  Don't worry, Isadore, Obama will only have to put up with this for about 3 more months. Unless, I suppose, Romney takes a cue from him and spends the next 4 years blaming his predecessor.
• isadore

  gut;1313471 wrote:Don't worry, Isadore, Obama will only have to put up with this for about 3 more months. Unless, I suppose, Romney takes a cue from him and spends the next 4 years blaming his predecessor.

  we will see, it is seemingly a very close election. Hopefully the decent people are the majority of the electorate, and our African American President will be re-elected.
• gut

  isadore;1313486 wrote:we will see, it is seemingly a very close election. Hopefully the decent people are the majority of the electorate, and our African American President will be re-elected.

  I'm hoping stupidity doesn't win out and we fire the incompetent community organizer.
• isadore

  gut;1313490 wrote:I'm hoping stupidity doesn't win out and we fire the incompetent community organizer.

  and I am hoping selfishness and racism are rejected and our first African American President is returned for a second term.
• HitsRus

  

  Hey IZZY...here is the other half of that link you provided:laugh:...read it and weep.
  
  
  http://factcheck.org/2012/09/obamas-stump-speech/
• isadore

  HitsRus;1313498 wrote:Hey IZZY...here is the other half of that link you provided:laugh:...read it and weep.
  
  
  http://factcheck.org/2012/09/obamas-stump-speech/

  “
  the economy has regained 512,000 of the manufacturing jobs.”
  “exports in 2 ½ years has increased 28%
  27% increase in renewable energy
  US oil production has surpassed foreign imports.
  
• HitsRus

  

  :laugh::laugh:LOL...You spin more than the President himself:laugh::laugh:
  
  from the fact checker article..

  Obama is not pretending to give a detached or balanced picture to his audience. He’s making a sales pitch, leaving out or glossing over inconvenient facts, twisting others and sometimes stating things that aren’t so. To cite just a few examples:

  • Obama correctly states that manufacturing jobs have increased by more than half a million since hitting bottom, but he fails to mention that the number regained is less than half the total lost since he took office.
  • He claims that “renewable” energy production has doubled on his watch, which isn’t true (only wind and solar have doubled).
  • He claims he’d increase the tax rate on high-income earners to no more than they paid under Bill Clinton, when the truth is they’d pay more because of new taxes imposed to pay for the Affordable Care Act.
  • He says “independent analysis” validates that his plan would cut $4 trillion from the deficit. But that total is inflated by $1 trillion in “savings” from winding down wars that he has promised to end anyway.
  • He accuses Romney of proposing to raise taxes by $2,000 on middle-income taxpayers, when Romney has stated clearly that he wouldn’t do any such thing.
  • He attacks Romney’s plan for Medicare as a “voucher” system that would leave seniors “at the mercy of insurance companies,” when the fact is, it’s structured the same as the system Obama’s health care law sets up for subsidizing private insurance for persons under age 65.

  There’s more — on automobile fuel efficiency, on imports and on exports. The president even complains of “all the cynicism that’s being fed to you through these negative ads,” as though his own campaign wasn’t spending 69 percent of its own millions on ads attacking Romney.
  Full quotes — and our dissections of the misleading claims in the president’s current stump speech — are contained in the Analysis section that follows

• gut

  isadore;1313496 wrote:and I am hoping selfishness and racism are rejected and our first African American President is returned for a second term.

  Hmmmm....unemployment up, wages down, food stamps up, poverty up, welfare up...Hardly an endorsement for Obama's compassion and leadership.
  
  By the way, excelling at deflection and blame are signs of a weak and ineffectual leader.
• isadore

  gut;1313552 wrote:Hmmmm....unemployment up, wages down, food stamps up, poverty up, welfare up...Hardly an endorsement for Obama's compassion and leadership.
  
  By the way, excelling at deflection and blame are signs of a weak and ineffectual leader.

  Republicans carrying out their policies of deregulation of predatory corporation, tax cuts for the wealthy, an laissez faire treatment of the financial markets push us into the worse economic situation in 70 years, Obama fights to pull us out of the hole the Republicans pushed us into while facing Republican legislators whose only program is to deny him a second term. Despite that he is bringing the economy back while extending compassion to the victims of Republican policies.
• isadore

  we are rebounding economically thanks to the efforts of our African American President.
• isadore

  we found numerous instances of candidate spin in what Romney had to say. For example:

  • Romney says Obama “said by now [unemployment] would be down to 5.4 percent.” But Romney is referring to a speculative report issued at the beginning of Obama’s presidency containing projections — not promises. Those projections relied on prevailing economic models that quickly proved to have underestimated the depths of the recession at that time.
  • Romney says median family income dropped $5,000 under Obama. That’s an exaggeration. The true loss of inflation-adjusted, median family income was $3,290 during Obama’s first three years. Romney’s figure is based on a report that covers a period that includes 13 months before Obama took office.
  • Romney says health insurance premiums have gone up $2,500 under Obama. The actual increase has been $1,700, most of which was absorbed by employers and only a small part of which is attributable to the health care law.
  • Romney blames Obama for the cost of gasoline doubling, but that’s misleading. Gasoline prices happened to be unusually low when Obama took office due to the recession and financial crisis.
  • Romney cited a Chamber of Commerce survey as evidence that small-business owners are less likely to hire because of the health care law. But experts warn not to place too much weight on the survey because it was an opt-in, online survey.
  • Romney said Obama “cut Medicare by $716 billion to pay for Obamacare,” but these cuts in the future growth of spending prolong the life of the Medicare trust fund, stretching the program’s finances out longer than they would last otherwise.
  • Romney said the health care law is “killing jobs in small business.” But CBO says the law would have a “small” impact on jobs, mainly affecting the amount of labor workers choose to supply. Those getting subsidies, for instance, might work less hours since they’re paying less for health care.
  • Romney said he would bring health care costs down by “finally deal[ing] with malpractice costs,” but experts say medical malpractice doesn’t make much of a dent in health care spending.

  There are other misleading claims — including bluster on the Keystone XL pipeline and a claim that Obama has lived up to a &#8220romise” about “skyrocketing” energy costs. And, of course, no Romney speech is complete without a reference to Obama’s comment, “If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that,” a quote that has been lifted out of context.
  http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?37519-The-Hyperbolic-Smearing-of-the-President/page3
  
  
  All in an effort to defeat our first African American President
• gut

  isadore;1313561 wrote:we are rebounding economically thanks to the efforts of our African American President.

  No we aren't. Stop lowering your standards and expectations because of the color of his skin. You deserve BETTER Isadore. Yes, even you .