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obama AWOL on Middle Easts meltdown

  • Belly35
    Not My President and as time goes on Not Americans Leader
    How many failures can one guy do before America wakes up ....
  • ptown_trojans_1
    Really Quaker? Can you drop the politics for once?
    This is a tradegy and should not involve politics.

    As someone who knows people that work in the Foreign Service Office, and more specifically, read many of the reports by the late Amb. I am deeply saddened about this.
    Politics are the last thing I am thinking about now.
    It is more important to figue out what the hell is going on, and how to contain the violence.
  • bases_loaded
    Don't forget were sending Egypt a billion dollars too.

    We put the Muslim brotherhood in power under Obama in both countries that attacked us yesterday. We respond by issuing an apology.

    The writing is on the wall.
  • bases_loaded
    Did I mention Obama is also stuffing Israel for David Letterman?

    WTF
  • Belly35
    ptown_trojans_1;1268736 wrote:Really Quaker? Can you drop the politics for once?
    This is a tradegy and should not involve politics.

    As someone who knows people that work in the Foreign Service Office, and more specifically, read many of the reports by the late Amb. I am deeply saddened about this.
    Politics are the last thing I am thinking about now.
    It is more important to figue out what the hell is going on, and how to contain the violence.
    With all do respect and I do respect your writing …. Wake up this is happening on Obama Watch and he is responsible…. You can hide from the truth but the bottom line is he, his Administration and Agenda is a failure, incompetent, jeopardizing the lives, prosperity and welfare of all Americans both home and abroad.

    Is this Leadership behavior you what?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-is-obama-skipping-more-than-half-of-his-daily-intelligence-meetings/2012/09/10/6624afe8-fb49-11e1-b153-218509a954e1_story.html
  • QuakerOats
    ptown_trojans_1;1268736 wrote:Really Quaker? Can you drop the politics for once?
    This is a tradegy and should not involve politics.

    As someone who knows people that work in the Foreign Service Office, and more specifically, read many of the reports by the late Amb. I am deeply saddened about this.
    Politics are the last thing I am thinking about now.
    It is more important to figue out what the hell is going on, and how to contain the violence.

    You need to wake up.

    I want to hear from the president.
  • gut
    You're going to have to wait until after Nov 6th. Obama is in 110% campaign mode now, doing even less of his job than usual.
  • BGFalcons82
    gut;1268784 wrote:You're going to have to wait until after Nov 6th. Obama is in 110% campaign mode now, doing even less of his job than usual.
    Yep. No time in his busy schedule for the leader of Israel, but plenty of time for a leader of fools, Letterman.
  • ptown_trojans_1
    You guys are incredible.
    Politics is irrelevant right now.

    It is Policy, and separated from politics.

    This and the crap you guys are saying is why I cannot stand politics.
  • stlouiedipalma
    QuakerOats;1268777 wrote:You need to wake up.

    I want to hear from the president.
    Obviously you were too busy typing knee-jerk responses, a la Mitt, to see that the President issued a statement this morning regarding this tragedy. I figured the usual suspects here and on the campaign trail would be busy trying to politicize this act of violence rather than show respect for the families of those killed. What would you have the President do, go in with guns blazing? Leadership doesn't mean you go off half-cocked.
  • bases_loaded
    stlouiedipalma;1268792 wrote:Obviously you were too busy typing knee-jerk responses, a la Mitt, to see that the President issued a statement this morning regarding this tragedy. I figured the usual suspects here and on the campaign trail would be busy trying to politicize this act of violence rather than show respect for the families of those killed. What would you have the President do, go in with guns blazing? Leadership doesn't mean you go off half-cocked.

    Obviously you didn't realize this all happened yesterday. It shouldn't take till this morning for a response.
  • ptown_trojans_1
    bases_loaded;1268794 wrote:Obviously you didn't realize this all happened yesterday. It shouldn't take till this morning for a response.
    I don't know, maybe it is a better idea to wait and report all the facts and get what the hell is happening on the ground before you release a statement.
    Also, maybe it is a better idea to wait and tell the former Amb family before releasing something?

    But, no, we want to blame the President, blame, blame blame.
    I rarely get pissed about politics, but the way this is getting covered has really ticked me off.
  • IggyPride00
    Willard shit the bed on this one, and is dangerously close to having a John McCain "The fundamentals of the economy are strong" moment.

    Let Obama's foreign policy fail on its own if it's going to, but Willard is getting lambasted across the board by Democrats and Republicans right now for being so quick to politicize this. Let your surrogates do that, but for the Candidate himself to be so quick to jump in with the over the top partisan stuff is not doing himself any favors right now.

    The vibe he is giving off is being described as "desperate", and it is showing in how he is handling this.

    Let it simmer for a day or two and then come in with the criticism, but that press release before the facts were even in last night was wildly premature and hurt him far more than it helped.
  • Belly35
    ptown_trojans_1;1268803 wrote:I don't know, maybe it is a better idea to wait and report all the facts and get what the hell is happening on the ground before you release a statement.
    Also, maybe it is a better idea to wait and tell the former Amb family before releasing something?

    But, no, we want to blame the President, blame, blame blame.
    I rarely get pissed about politics, but the way this is getting covered has really ticked me off.
    Don't talk Blame Blame Blame your guy Obama has been doing it for 3 1/2 years ..
  • QuakerOats
    stlouiedipalma;1268792 wrote:Obviously you were too busy typing knee-jerk responses, a la Mitt, to see that the President issued a statement this morning regarding this tragedy.
    That's all he does is issue statements, then either go play golf or go campaign. It is his consistently failed leadership over a 4 year period, on all things fiscal, domestic, and foreign, that we are tired of ----- get it!

    Now you are seeing the results of failed leadership, at home, and around the world. Yet some are still blind to the fact that we could be doing so, so, so much better. I guess that is borne out of pre-ordaining obama to greatness, and then failing to come to grips with his ineptness and failure.
  • gut
    ^^^Are you saying the great apology tour has not been effective?
  • Belly35
    ptown_trojans_1;1268803 wrote:I don't know, maybe it is a better idea to wait and report all the facts and get what the hell is happening on the ground before you release a statement.
    Also, maybe it is a better idea to wait and tell the former Amb family before releasing something?

    But, no, we want to blame the President, blame, blame blame.
    I rarely get pissed about politics, but the way this is getting covered has really ticked me off.
    Sorry! PT1 But if Obama would show up for more that half of the intelligence meeting he could be better informed and not clueless half the time.... Again I ask you is this the Leardership you really want to run America? Of all the people I would expect you to have a highter standard and more demanding work ethic of the Leader of America. or Maybe a the typical goverment employee willing to support what keeps you employed. I have to much respect for you to think that would be the case...

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-is-obama-skipping-more-than-half-of-his-daily-intelligence-meetings/2012/09/10/6624afe8-fb49-11e1-b153-218509a954e1_story.html
  • Cleveland Buck
    Maybe if we kill some more of these towelheads they will finally like us and welcome our presence on their lands.
  • Belly35
    Cleveland Buck;1268933 wrote:Maybe if we kill some more of these towelheads they will finally like us and welcome our presence on their lands.
    no need to kill anyone just stop sending their government money ASAP, band any trade with Egypt and Libya ASAP, hold off medical aid ASAP, send all Egypt and Libya student home within 30 days, no-citizen Egypt or Libya working in the America has 3 month to apply for citizenship, freeze all Egypt and Libya assets in America … That should send a message … I would predict a change in behavior
  • QuakerOats
    Cleveland Buck;1268933 wrote:Maybe if we kill some more of these towelheads they will finally like us and welcome our presence on their lands.
    Maybe if we re-elect obama things will change.
  • QuakerOats
    http://egypt.usembassy.gov/pr091112.html

    apology tour has yet to conclude.
  • pmoney25
    QuakerOats;1268972 wrote:Maybe if we re-elect obama things will change.
    When did CB become an Obama supporter?
  • jhay78
    ptown_trojans_1;1268736 wrote:Really Quaker? Can you drop the politics for once?
    This is a tradegy and should not involve politics.

    As someone who knows people that work in the Foreign Service Office, and more specifically, read many of the reports by the late Amb. I am deeply saddened about this.
    Politics are the last thing I am thinking about now.
    It is more important to figue out what the hell is going on, and how to contain the violence.
    The vibe I got from the OP was general digust with the Obama administration's policies in the Middle East, not specifically the incident in Libya.

    I mean, the irony here is overwhelming. Three years ago Obama spoke in Cairo, invited the Muslim Brotherhood (who were at that time banned in Egypt as a political party), and profusely apologized for America and listed off many reasons why Islam is so great and why America should embrace it.

    Now the entire region is teetering on the brink of war at every turn, and the President appears thoroughly disengaged.
    QuakerOats;1268983 wrote:http://egypt.usembassy.gov/pr091112.html

    apology tour has yet to conclude.
    This is an outrage. We have officially gone mad:
    The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others
    And how about the "universal right to free speech". There's a laugher. Yes, that would be the same right that is pretty much banned in every totalitarian Muslim majority country.
  • jhay78
    ptown_trojans_1;1268791 wrote:You guys are incredible.
    Politics is irrelevant right now.

    It is Policy, and separated from politics.

    This and the crap you guys are saying is why I cannot stand politics.[/QUOTE]

    What about the crap Obama's camp is saying?

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/12/Obama-Camp-Condemns-Romney-Before-Terrorists
    At 11:53pm last night Talking Points Memo released a statement from the Obama campaign condemning Mitt Romney for criticizing something the White House itself disavowed -- an appalling apology issued by the State Department.


    Eight hours later, President Obama finally got around to condemning the monsters who attacked us on our own soil and killed our fellow citizens.

    Yesterday, on the 11th anniversary of September 11, the Obama White House snubbed Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, accepted an invitation from David Letterman, and apologized to Islamists upset over a film that mocks Islam and Mohammed -- something "artists" in America do to Christianity with my tax dollars on a fairly regular basis.

    First off: Why is our Embassy apologizing for a film no one has seen and apologizing for freedom of speech and expression? In a word, that's un-American. And let's remember that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton doubled down on the apology. Last night, though, the White House finally disavowed the apology, but now the hypocritical and wildly dishonest Obama campaign is lashing out at Mitt Romney for being critical of the same apology the White House itself disavowed.

    Here's the Romney statement:
    I’m outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi. It’s disgraceful that the Obama administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.

    So I guess it's okay for President Obama to criticize that disgraceful apology but not Romney. And now the left is claiming the apology in question from the U.S. Embassy in Cairo was made before the compound was attacked. But it's just a fact that the on Twitter and elsewhere, even after the attack, that the Embassy defended and stood by the apology.

    And let me reiterate that after the attack, Hillary doubled down on it.

    Via TPM: Here's the hysterical and dishonest response from the Obama campaign:
    “We are shocked that, at a time when the United States of America is confronting the tragic death of one of our diplomatic officers in Libya, Governor Romney would choose to launch a political attack,” Obama’s campaign press secretary Ben LaBolt said in a statement.

    Not only is the Obama campaign's "shock" completely manufactured -- damn that Romney for criticizing the same apology Obama just disavowed! -- but the Obama campaign is dishonestly trying to make it sound as though Romney was exploiting a tragic death. Moreover, I'm unaware of any condemnation of the Islamists who attack and killed our embassy personnel made before the campaign condemned Mitt Romney.

    So who's really playing politics here?

    If only the Obama campaign could find half the outrage they saved for Romney to level at the murderers.

    Well, you know, priorities.