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WI Collective Barganing Law Upheld by State SC

  • fish82
    Not overly surprising that they upheld it, but interesting that they chose to issue some rhetorical beatdown to Maryann Sumi along the way.

    http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/123859034.html
  • Writerbuckeye
    Wisconsin has done this right -- and the ruling is the right one.
  • QuakerOats
    Thank you. It is somewhat encouraging to know that at least a few states, Ohio included, are boldly attempting to bring fiscal sanity to their budgets and halt the raping of the taxpayer. It is long overdue.
  • Ty Webb
    And it will be overturned by vote in November...just like in Ohio
  • fan_from_texas
    Ty Webb;803318 wrote:And it will be overturned by vote in November...just like in Ohio

    Not particularly likely. Most moderates, myself included, support the law.
  • O-Trap
    fan_from_texas;803345 wrote:Not particularly likely. Most moderates, myself included, support the law.
    I tend to see a lot of support for it among moderates here in Ohio as well. Seems like most of the supporters are either left-leaning or union workers themselves.
  • fan_from_texas
    O-Trap;803351 wrote:I tend to see a lot of support for it among moderates here in Ohio as well. Seems like most of the supporters are either left-leaning or union workers themselves.

    Many people either know teachers or are related to teachers, so few people are willing to speak out against it. But when we just had a Supreme Court election here, which was essentially a referendum on the law, the conservative justice won and cast the deciding vote in this case. It seems unlikely to me that if those on the left couldn't muster support when feelings were strong, they'll have a tougher time doing it later.
  • Ty Webb
    O-Trap;803351 wrote:I tend to see a lot of support for it among moderates here in Ohio as well. Seems like most of the supporters are either left-leaning or union workers themselves.

    So what you're saying is the majority of supporters of SB5 here in Ohio are left leaning voters and union workers??

    Are you high?

    And I'm accused of making things up
  • O-Trap
    Ty Webb;803356 wrote:So what you're saying is the majority of supporters of SB5 here in Ohio are left leaning voters and union workers??

    Are you high?

    And I'm accused of making things up
    I forgot the tense I was speaking in by the end of the sentence! LOL!

    ... I am ashamed ...
  • Ty Webb
    O-Trap;803384 wrote:I forgot the tense I was speaking in by the end of the sentence! LOL!

    ... I am ashamed ...

    No problem....I didn't think you meant that but was sure
  • O-Trap
    Ty Webb;803391 wrote:No problem....I didn't think you meant that but was sure
    Thanks for letting me know I sounded like a boob. :D
  • QuakerOats
    Ty Webb;803318 wrote:And it will be overturned by vote in November...just like in Ohio


    No, not once the average voter becomes educated on the matter.

    http://www.betterohio.org/sites/default/files/facts/OurFirstRealChanceToFixOhio.pdf

    http://www.betterohio.org/sites/default/files/facts/WeShouldHaveDemandedThisYearsAgo.pdf

    http://www.betterohio.org/sites/default/files/facts/WhatitDoes.pdf

    http://www.betterohio.org/sites/default/files/facts/ReformingOhioEducationSystem.pdf

    http://www.betterohio.org/sites/default/files/facts/SpinVsTruth.pdf

    http://www.betterohio.org/sites/default/files/facts/FrequentlyAskedQuestions.pdf

    http://www.betterohio.org/sites/default/files/facts/WhatOpinionLeadersAreSaying.pdf

    http://www.betterohio.org/sites/default/files/facts/RewardingGoodTeachers&ImprovingOurSchools.pdf

    http://www.betterohio.org/facts
  • O-Trap
    Not gonna lie. This post reminds me of Bigdogg with the 18 links. ;)
  • Ty Webb
    Quaker.....you're going to have to do an awful lot of convincing from the numbers I have seen....

    Also...this has been out there for 6 months or so right...If its been out that long...dont you think would be about as educated as they are going to get on it?
  • fish82
    Ty Webb;803318 wrote:And it will be overturned by vote in November...just like in Ohio
    So sayeth the King of Predictions. :rolleyes:

    Keep pluggin' Gibbster...you're bound to get one right eventually.
  • QuakerOats
    Ty Webb;803455 wrote:Quaker.....you're going to have to do an awful lot of convincing from the numbers I have seen....

    Also...this has been out there for 6 months or so right...If its been out that long...dont you think would be about as educated as they are going to get on it?

    No, it has not "been out there for 6 months"..... this organization was just formalized and the website developed; this is just the beginning. When the average Joe who pays 23% toward his insurance realizes that the public sector pays about 7%, I think they will know how to vote on this issue. At long last, the middle class taxpayer has an ally in the governor which will get the tax man off their backs.
  • believer
    Ty Webb;803455 wrote:Quaker.....you're going to have to do an awful lot of convincing from the numbers I have seen....
    And we've all witnessed what happens with the numbers you see.
  • Glory Days
    QuakerOats;803541 wrote:No, it has not "been out there for 6 months"..... this organization was just formalized and the website developed; this is just the beginning. When the average Joe who pays 23% toward his insurance realizes that the public sector pays about 7%, I think they will know how to vote on this issue. At long last, the middle class taxpayer has an ally in the governor which will get the tax man off their backs.

    maybe the average joe should work harder and negotiate better pay towards his insurance. ;)
  • sleeper
    Good. One more step to the elimination of Unions.
  • fan_from_texas
    Glory Days;803779 wrote:maybe the average joe should work harder and negotiate better pay towards his insurance. ;)

    Or maybe he should set up a system where he can vote for the people who are on the other side of the negotiating table?
  • Ty Webb
    QuakerOats;803541 wrote:No, it has not "been out there for 6 months"..... this organization was just formalized and the website developed; this is just the beginning. When the average Joe who pays 23% toward his insurance realizes that the public sector pays about 7%, I think they will know how to vote on this issue. At long last, the middle class taxpayer has an ally in the governor which will get the tax man off their backs.

    So are you saying Bob Taft wasn't a friend of the tax payer

    And I was referring to the bill itself.....not the website that Kasich wasted taxpayer money on
  • majorspark
    Glory Days;803779 wrote:maybe the average joe should work harder and negotiate better pay towards his insurance. ;)
    Its worked pretty well for me.
  • dwccrew
    Ty Webb;803318 wrote:And it will be overturned by vote in November...just like in Ohio

    I'm not so sure it will be. It passed through the state legislature and then the state SC upheld the law. Going to be hard to convince enough people to overturn it.
  • Glory Days
    majorspark;803881 wrote:Its worked pretty well for me.

    seems to be working even better for the unions only paying 7%.
  • majorspark
    Glory Days;804042 wrote:seems to be working even better for the unions only paying 7%.
    I pay 0%.