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Florida church to honor 9/11 with a burning of the Koran

  • fish82
    FatHobbit;478615 wrote:Timothy Mcveigh
    Confirmed Agnostic. Try again.

    And the Waco comparison is such a reach I'm surprised your rotator cuff is still functional. ;)
  • Manhattan Buckeye
    We'll disagree on the fair comparison bit.
  • FatHobbit
    fish82;478641 wrote:Confirmed Agnostic. Try again.

    And the Waco comparison is such a reach I'm surprised your rotator cuff is still functional. ;)

    Confirmed by who? Do you deny that the people in Waco were christian? (Radical maybe, but still christian)
  • fish82
    FatHobbit;478664 wrote:Confirmed by who? Do you deny that the people in Waco were christian? (Radical maybe, but still christian)
    Confirmed by McVeigh several times over. He cited Waco as an example of government overreach. He never mentioned their religion.
  • FatHobbit
    fish82;478673 wrote:Confirmed by McVeigh several times over. He cited Waco as an example of government overreach. He never mentioned their religion.

    Osama never said he attacked us because of our religion. He did because he wanted us out of his country. I think you could call that "government overreach"
  • fish82
    FatHobbit;478683 wrote:Osama never said he attacked us because of our religion. He did because he wanted us out of his country. I think you could call that "government overreach"
    LMAO. Okay...you run with that. :rolleyes:

    http://www.usvetdsp.com/osam_qts.htm
    "Hostility toward America is a religious duty, and we hope to be rewarded for it by God . . . . I am confident that Muslims will be able to end the legend of the so-called superpower that is America. Time Magazine
    That's one. I can do this all day.
  • FatHobbit
    Do you like this one better?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army
  • fish82
    FatHobbit;478691 wrote:Do you like this one better?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army
    I'm not exactly sure how they qualify as "Christian," when basically their leader seems to think he is Christ. Kinda apples and oranges if ya ask me, but I don't claim to be an expert on the subject. ;)
  • FatHobbit
    fish82;478713 wrote:I'm not exactly sure how they qualify as "Christian," when basically their leader seems to think he is Christ. Kinda apples and oranges if ya ask me, but I don't claim to be an expert on the subject. ;)

    I'm not saying he is, but if he claims to be Christ and they are following him, how much more Christian can they be?
  • CenterBHSFan
    FatHobbit;478719 wrote:I'm not saying he is, but if he claims to be Christ and they are following him, how much more delusional can they be?

    More like it! :D
  • FatHobbit
    CenterBHSFan;478747 wrote:More like it! :D

    Maybe, but I think a big chink of Muslim's would make the same claim about the fanatics. :)
  • fish82
    FatHobbit;478719 wrote:I'm not saying he is, but if he claims to be Christ and they are following him, how much more Christian can they be?

    I think I heard somewhere that Christians officially follow some other guy, but I could be wrong.
  • FatHobbit
    fish82;478763 wrote:I think I heard somewhere that Christians officially follow some other guy, but I could be wrong.

    not Christ?
  • HitsRus
    Are they a worldwide organization? Are they well funded? Do they compose a significant percentage of Christianity? >5%.....errrr greater than 1%?.



    Just asking.
  • FatHobbit
    HitsRus;478770 wrote:Are they a worldwide organization? Are they well funded? Do they compose a significant percentage of Christianity? >5%.....errrr greater than 1%?.



    Just asking.

    I didn't really mean to turn this into Christians vs Muslims. I was just responding to fish82's post about christians never being terrorists.
  • fish82
    FatHobbit;478778 wrote:I didn't really mean to turn this into Christians vs Muslims. I was just responding to fish82's post about christians never being terrorists.
    If you could quote where I actually said that Christians were never terrorists, that would be awesome. Thanks!
  • fish82
    FatHobbit;478768 wrote:not Christ?

    Yeah, but I think he's been dead awhile and had a different first name.
  • dwccrew
    I Wear Pants;477963 wrote:The Imam never said it would be moved. Rauf said he hasn't spoken with the pastor. The pastor said he spoke with another Imam.

    Whoever is willing to kill over the burning of a book is a crazy person. This is correct.

    But whoever is willing to riot and scream and get upset over the building of a community center with a religious affiliation is also a crazy person.

    Burning holy books is immature, stupid, and mean. Not to mention a waste of money. But none of those things are illegal in our country so we're free to do them even though we shouldn't.
    +1
    superman;478046 wrote:When was the last terrorist attack in the name of jesus on american soil?
    Are we limiting to just the US, because the LRA attacks in the name of Christianity, it's just not in the US.
    HitsRus;478081 wrote:How about flags? Burning flags is even more stupid.



    as that would be the intent of a flag burning also...Flag burners are not of sound mind.


    If you support the right of people to burn flags as a legitimate form of protest, than you must also support the right of people to burn a book in protest, whether that be the Koran or the Bible.
    I support his right to protest, yes. But I think there is a difference between the intent of a flag burner and a Koran burner.
    HitsRus;478228 wrote:...and that has been my point all along in these arguments about the cultural center. It is not about rights, but about the insistence of the assertion of those rights in deference to the sensitivities of your neighbor. Why make a bad situation worse, just because you have the right to do so? That is what really stupid. It is about common sense. It is about being a good neighbor. It's about making an intelligent decision considering the circumstances of the time, and considering alternatives that can make things better instead of worse.
    I understand your point, but I do not think building a cultural center and burning a Koran are the same thing. These people building the cultural center are not intentionally trying to insult anyone (I am not saying some people don't view it as an insult, I am saying I don't believe they are trying to insult anyone), the pastor and his minions are intentionally trying to insult Islam. They sell "Islam is evil" items, he wrote a book called Islam is of the Devil and now he is burning their holy books. I believe intent makes a difference. You may feel they are both wrong, but would you agree the intent is different?
    fish82;478609 wrote:Hit me up the next time those wacky Christians take out 15-2000 people at a time instead of one abortion doctor every 10 years. The "terrorism scene" body count has been dominated by Muslims for the past 20 years. It's not "of late." As of today, 9/10/2010, they are the ones that are causing the problems and they are the ones killing the vast majority of people over religion.

    I guess what some call "islamophobia," I merely call "playing the odds."
    How about the LRA?
    fish82;478686 wrote:LMAO. Okay...you run with that. :rolleyes:

    http://www.usvetdsp.com/osam_qts.htm



    That's one. I can do this all day.

    Where in your quotes did OBL say anything about Christianity? He said America and the American government that he is against. America interferes in Middle Eastern affairs all the time and there is a lot of resentful people. Many Americans get pissed off when our own government gets too involved in our affairs, how do you think they feel when a foreign government interferes in their affairs?

    I am not saying I condone their response, but I can see where we have created a problem for ourselves, now we have to fight our own creation.
  • I Wear Pants
    HitsRus;478770 wrote:Are they a worldwide organization? Are they well funded? Do they compose a significant percentage of Christianity? >5%.....errrr greater than 1%?.



    Just asking.
    So you think there are at least 13,000,000 Muslim terrorists? (1.3 billion Muslims is the low estimate and 13 mil is 1% of that)

    I think that number is insanely high.
  • fish82
    I Wear Pants;479298 wrote:So you think there are at least 13,000,000 Muslim terrorists? (1.3 billion Muslims is the low estimate and 13 mil is 1% of that)

    I think that number is insanely high.
    No, but I'll wager any amount you want that there are at least 13 million that strongly support it.
  • Glory Days
    fish82;479598 wrote:No, but I'll wager any amount you want that there are at least 13 million that strongly support it.

    prepare to have your mind blown....

    i'll wager there were non muslims who supported it also? now what do we do!?!?!?!
  • justincredible
  • fish82
    Glory Days;479654 wrote:prepare to have your mind blown....

    i'll wager there were non muslims who supported it also? now what do we do!?!?!?!
    There really isn't anyone on this board with enuff cranial juice to blow my mind...just sayin. ;)

    How about we take all six of them and just waterbord them for a bit?
  • CenterBHSFan
    fish82;479781 wrote:There really isn't anyone on this board with enuff cranial juice to blow my mind...just sayin. ;)

    How about we take all six of them and just waterbord them for a bit?

    haha!!!
  • FatHobbit
    fish82;479781 wrote:There really isn't anyone on this board with enuff cranial juice to blow my mind...just sayin. ;)

    How about we take all six of them and just waterbord them for a bit?

    If you used some of your cranial juice you would know there are more than six non muslim people who supported the terrorists.