Puerto Rico our 51st State ....why?

• Al Bundy

  I Wear Pants wrote:

  Al Bundy wrote:

  I Wear Pants wrote:

  Al Bundy wrote: How would making PR a state benefit our country?

  How does having it as a territory benefit our country?

  There were miliary reasons for making it a territory after we took control of it in the Spanish-American War.

  How is that relevant to today?

  I was giving you the reason why it is a territory. If they wanted to be an independent country (something that it hasn't wanted in the past), I don't see a problem today with letting it become independent (providing it would have a stable government). As far taking the next step and making it a state, I'm not sure that is in the best interest of our country if it will become an economic burden.
• BCSbunk

  Belly35 wrote: Does America “WE THE PEOPLE” want Puerto Rico our 51 State ..WHY?
  If it for political votes ...NO …. the Democrat suggesting this are Assholes and should be voted out ….
  
  I see no reason, … no benefit, profit, security advancement, agricultural, technology, or economic justification ....nothing to justify doing this... only more cost and additional burden on the American Public.
  
  I say ...... NO .......
  
  http://biggovernment.com/taylorking/2010/04/28/puerto-rico-51st-state-congress-scrambling-to-make-it-so/

  I agree. The evil dictator USA should not take Puerto Rico as state and should release them from the bondage of slavery of country ownership.
  
  The US should allow Puerto Rico to be their own country but the EVIL US will not they will try to control all within their realm.
  
  It is simple the US is the most evil empire the world has known and its people are total retards retards are often referred to as conservatives.
  
  Conservatives are the most worthless of scum on the planet earth.
• believer

  

  BCSbunk wrote:The evil dictator USA should not take Puerto Rico as state and should release them from the bondage of slavery of country ownership.
  
  The US should allow Puerto Rico to be their own country but the EVIL US will not they will try to control all within their realm.
  
  It is simple the US is the most evil empire the world has known and its people are total retards retards are often referred to as conservatives.
  
  Conservatives are the most worthless of scum on the planet earth.

  Tell us how you really feel. :rolleyes:
• majorspark

  

  believer wrote:

  BCSbunk wrote:The evil dictator USA should not take Puerto Rico as state and should release them from the bondage of slavery of country ownership.
  
  The US should allow Puerto Rico to be their own country but the EVIL US will not they will try to control all within their realm.
  
  It is simple the US is the most evil empire the world has known and its people are total retards retards are often referred to as conservatives.
  
  Conservatives are the most worthless of scum on the planet earth.

  Tell us how you really feel. :rolleyes:

  He was seeing hate filled bigots behind every bush. Looks like he sees them in his mirror as well.
• I Wear Pants

  Al Bundy wrote:

  I Wear Pants wrote:

  Al Bundy wrote:

  I Wear Pants wrote:

  Al Bundy wrote: How would making PR a state benefit our country?

  How does having it as a territory benefit our country?

  There were miliary reasons for making it a territory after we took control of it in the Spanish-American War.

  How is that relevant to today?

  I was giving you the reason why it is a territory. If they wanted to be an independent country (something that it hasn't wanted in the past), I don't see a problem today with letting it become independent (providing it would have a stable government). As far taking the next step and making it a state, I'm not sure that is in the best interest of our country if it will become an economic burden.

  Ok, well isn't that what this vote is for? If they want to become independent they can but if they want to be a state they can.
  
  It only makes sense that they do one or the other because right now they're getting some of the benefits of a state (protection by our military, etc) but without paying any taxes.
• dwccrew

  

  Al Bundy wrote:

  I Wear Pants wrote:

  Al Bundy wrote:

  I Wear Pants wrote:

  Al Bundy wrote: How would making PR a state benefit our country?

  How does having it as a territory benefit our country?

  There were miliary reasons for making it a territory after we took control of it in the Spanish-American War.

  How is that relevant to today?

  I was giving you the reason why it is a territory. If they wanted to be an independent country (something that it hasn't wanted in the past), I don't see a problem today with letting it become independent (providing it would have a stable government). As far taking the next step and making it a state, I'm not sure that is in the best interest of our country if it will become an economic burden.

  In all fairness, Pants wasn't asking what the reason for them being a territory was, he asked what benefit of currently having them as a territory is. Also, it is more of an economic burden right now than if they became a state or they were independent. They receive all the benefits (US tax dollars providing infrastructure improvements, military protection, etc.) without any taxes paid. We need to change it to either a state or allow it to be an independent nation (my preference).
• Al Bundy

  dwccrew wrote:

  Al Bundy wrote:

  I Wear Pants wrote:

  Al Bundy wrote:

  I Wear Pants wrote:

  Al Bundy wrote: How would making PR a state benefit our country?

  How does having it as a territory benefit our country?

  There were miliary reasons for making it a territory after we took control of it in the Spanish-American War.

  How is that relevant to today?

  I was giving you the reason why it is a territory. If they wanted to be an independent country (something that it hasn't wanted in the past), I don't see a problem today with letting it become independent (providing it would have a stable government). As far taking the next step and making it a state, I'm not sure that is in the best interest of our country if it will become an economic burden.

  In all fairness, Pants wasn't asking what the reason for them being a territory was, he asked what benefit of currently having them as a territory is. Also, it is more of an economic burden right now than if they became a state or they were independent. They receive all the benefits (US tax dollars providing infrastructure improvements, military protection, etc.) without any taxes paid. We need to change it to either a state or allow it to be an independent nation (my preference).

  I would be fine with them being independent. They are going to receive our miliary protection whether they are a territory, independent, or a state. As far as taxes, I'd still like to see some numbers showing that they would pay more in federal taxes than what would be given out in refunds.
• HitsRus

  

  I have no objection to whatever the people of Puerto Rico decide, whether it be the status quo, statehood, or independence. I don't see any reason why they should be pushed into anything.
• girevik

  QuakerOats wrote: It is a trick to add 2 democrat senators to immediately be able to rebuff republican filibuster efforts.
  
  It is clever, but it is completely underhanded ----- just like everything else coming out of DC now.
  
  November cannot get here fast enough.

  Yeah, they would surely elect 2 democrats. Edited-ptown
• believer

  

  girevik wrote: Yeah, they would surely elect 2 democrats,

  When all else fails and you have no valid argument, ALWAYS play the race card.
• girevik

  Edit-ptown
  
  Don't worry though, I won't tell any of your bigot friends. It will be our little secret. Just 'tween us.
• believer

  

  girevik wrote:

  It wasn't but if you insist. :rolleyes:
• girevik

  That's right, must just be a well known doccumented scientific fact that brown people only vote for democrats.
  
  What does the riiight have against democracy?
• believer

  

  What does the left have against truth?
• girevik

  Nothing at all.
  
  Here is the truth:
  
  You and your ilk KNOW that brown people vote for democrats, you therefore feel that brown people shouldn't be allowed to vote.
  
  What does the riiight have against democracy?
  
  ***EDIT***
  Nevermind, I just answered my own question. LOL
• believer

  

  girevik wrote:What does the riiight have against democracy?

  Democracy to the left means everyone is allowed to have & express an opinion...as long as it's a politically-correct liberal opinion.
• cbus4life

  believer wrote:

  girevik wrote:What does the riiight have against democracy?

  Democracy to the left means everyone is allowed to have & express an opinion...as long as it's a politically-correct liberal opinion.

  Yes, of course, you're exactly right.
• girevik

  Yeah.
  
  That's pretty funny, since afterall it is the riiight that is afraid that if Puerto Rico becomes a state it will mean more people in government who disagree with their policies.
• Al Bundy

  girevik wrote: Yeah.
  
  That's pretty funny, since afterall it is the riiight that is afraid that if Puerto Rico becomes a state it will mean more people in government who disagree with their policies.

  I am a democrat, but I am not in favor of Puerto Rico becoming a state until I see evidence of how it benefits our country to do so.
• majorspark

  

  Al Bundy wrote:

  girevik wrote: Yeah.
  
  That's pretty funny, since afterall it is the riiight that is afraid that if Puerto Rico becomes a state it will mean more people in government who disagree with their policies.

  I am a democrat, but I am not in favor of Puerto Rico becoming a state until I see evidence of how it benefits our country to do so.

  I am on the right, and if it benefits the nation as a whole for PR to become a state, and they wish to join the Union I would be in favor of them joining regardless of their supposed current political leanings.
  
  This dudes mass generalizations quickly fall apart on this issue.
• Al Bundy

  majorspark wrote:

  Al Bundy wrote:

  girevik wrote: Yeah.
  
  That's pretty funny, since afterall it is the riiight that is afraid that if Puerto Rico becomes a state it will mean more people in government who disagree with their policies.

  I am a democrat, but I am not in favor of Puerto Rico becoming a state until I see evidence of how it benefits our country to do so.

  I am on the right, and if it benefits the nation as a whole for PR to become a state, and they wish to join the Union I would be in favor of them joining regardless of their supposed current political leanings.
  
  This dudes mass generalizations quickly fall apart on this issue.

  I just need to see more evidence before I can truly say I am in favor or against it.
• majorspark

  

  Al Bundy wrote:

  majorspark wrote:

  Al Bundy wrote:

  girevik wrote: Yeah.
  
  That's pretty funny, since afterall it is the riiight that is afraid that if Puerto Rico becomes a state it will mean more people in government who disagree with their policies.

  I am a democrat, but I am not in favor of Puerto Rico becoming a state until I see evidence of how it benefits our country to do so.

  I am on the right, and if it benefits the nation as a whole for PR to become a state, and they wish to join the Union I would be in favor of them joining regardless of their supposed current political leanings.
  
  This dudes mass generalizations quickly fall apart on this issue.

  I just need to see more evidence before I can truly say I am in favor or against it.

  I agree. The mass generalization comment was in regards to the poster you were responding to making unsubstantiated claims about the right.
• girevik

  The very first mas generalization in the thread happened way before I got here when it was noted and then agreed upon that brown people will always vote for democrats.
  
  "Hypocrisy, what's that?"
  --- the riiight
• majorspark

  

  girevik wrote: The very first mas generalization in the thread happened way before I got here when it was noted and then agreed upon that brown people will always vote for democrats.
  
  "Hypocrisy, what's that?"
  --- the riiight

  You were the first poster to mention brown people. Not one poster said or agreed that brown people always vote democrat. Prove it by quoting the post.
• girevik

  Who lives in Puerto Rico? If you saw bunch of Puerto Ricans walking down the street whould you think "hey, there goes a bunch of white people..."? It was it decided on page 1 how the Puerto Ricans would definately vote. Per the posts on page 1 who will the Puerto Ricans definately vote for?
  
  Was it:
  
  A. democrats
  B. republicans
  C. Libertarians
  D. none of the above