Central District Sectional Selection

• bump_and_run

  cruiser_96;1377306 wrote:I'm thinking we should remove a weight class from 126 to 160 and put a weight class at either 100 or go with a 212, and bump 220 up to 230. That's sounds like a great idea.

  if you're going to go, go large
  
  98, 120, 140, 158, 164, 168, 174, 180, 184, 188, 192, 196, 200, 350
• cruiser_96

  

  I'm loving you more and more every day, bump_and_run!
  
  For me, the craziest part of the whole weight class change from a few years back was that the moment they came out, every coach across the country thought the same thing. ...but not one person making the decisions thought about it!?!?!?!
• Cthelites

  Im glad I can see the sarcasm font. Wow u had me going there for a moment cruiser.
• cruiser_96

  

  Cthelites;1377350 wrote:Im glad I can see the sarcasm font. Wow u had me going there for a moment cruiser.

  Well done.
  
  ps: 23 days left... what will YOU be doing to BE BETTER!?!?!?!?! Can't wait, coach!
• It is what it is

  bump_and_run;1377310 wrote:if you're going to go, go large
  
  98, 120, 140, 158, 164, 168, 174, 180, 184, 188, 192, 196, 200, 350

  200 to 350...WOW!
  
  I'd like to see 103, 112, 119, 126, 135, 145, 152, 160, 170, 182, 195, 215, 250, 285
• Cthelites

  It is what it is;1377389 wrote:200 to 350...WOW!
  
  I'd like to see 103, 112, 119, 126, 135, 145, 152, 160, 170, 182, 195, 215, 250, 285

  u want to eliminate another weight between 30_40?????
  And add another fatman weight??
  Most of those upper weight matches are brutal enough on the eyes and u want to add to it. Wowwwwww!
  Bring back the old weights!
• Dust_E_Roads

  It is what it is;1377389 wrote:200 to 350...WOW!
  
  I'd like to see 103, 112, 119, 126, 135, 145, 152, 160, 170, 182, 195, 215, 250, 285

  I don't disagree, but you're going to get a lot of blow back from all the folks log jammed between 130 to 150.
  
  I will say that while this new weight schedule would be more fair to the bigger guys (reducing 40 to 60 pound differentials), you would see a ton of byes in those classes until the sport evolves. It will evolve, but many are impatient, seeing the high number of byes at 182 and 195 as proof that OHSAA skrewed up.
• bump_and_run

  for reals
  
  102, 110, 118, 124, 130, 136, 142, 149, 157, 165, 177, 190, 210, 285
• GregHines

  104.5, 112.75, 120, 127, 134.5, 141, 149.75, 162, 173, 184.5, 199, 214, 230, 285
  
  Wasn't this all discussed and debated, both pre and post change, a couple of years ago? It is like taxes and regulations - we have no say, so just live with it. The only difference is we have no way of voting the decision makers out of power
• bump_and_run

  GregHines;1377529 wrote:104.5, 112.75, 120, 127, 134.5, 141, 149.75, 162, 173, 184.5, 199, 214, 230, 285
  
  Wasn't this all discussed and debated, both pre and post change, a couple of years ago? It is like taxes and regulations - we have no say, so just live with it. The only difference is we have no way of voting the decision makers out of power

  if i stopped commenting about things on which i have no say, i would never have another conversation with my wife ever
• cruiser_96

  

  GregHines: You assume those making these decisions aren't smarter than us! These are the best money can buy. They are the know-alls. What they say is best for us. Long live NFHS!!!!!!!!
  
  or...
  
  
• GregHines

  Cruiser, I like.
• Half Full Nelson

  

  I actually think the weight classes as hey currently stand are just fine. It's better than when I was in HS when, if you weighed 110 lbs and wanted to drop a weight you had to cut 7 pounds (which, believe it or not, is a lot when you only weigh 110.) 106's sure look a lot bigger than 103's, at least from what I remember, so it' probably hurts the 95lb freshmen, but how many of those are there? Plus, it's a big improvement from 189 to HWT. The addition of 195 and 220 is a much better distribution for the upper weights. And, how many 230 lb HS kids are there who, honestly, don't have 10 lbs to lose. If you weigh 240, you're not giving up much to other HWTs, unless you're facing the rare kid who cuts weight to make 285. If anything, they could go....195...215...240...HWT....but not sure which weight you'd cut down below to make up for it.
  
  BTW...is there something about the new weight classes that's led to 120 being ridiculously stacked this year? Or, is is just 120's "year?"
• cruiser_96

  

  Every year, there seems to be a weight class or two that are deeper than any other. (On the flip side, there are usually a couple of weight classes that are... ... ... we'll say "thin" with talent. Bereft might work too!)
  
  Point of note: I do believe it was 120 last year that went 1-8 at the Schott, with the one win being a forfeit.
• bump_and_run

  cruiser_96;1378217 wrote:Every year, there seems to be a weight class or two that are deeper than any other. (On the flip side, there are usually a couple of weight classes that are... ... ... we'll say "thin" with talent. Bereft might work too!)
  
  Point of note: I do believe it was 120 last year that went 1-8 at the Schott, with the one win being a forfeit.

  and 106 did quite well last year, iirc. funny how that works.
• cruiser_96

  

  Here's hoping 106 and 120 do NOT reverse roles! I'd like to a) get the the Schott, and b) earn a win (or four) while there!!!
• coachchuck

  

  one of the best feeling you can have as a coach
• It is what it is

  Cthelites;1377416 wrote:u want to eliminate another weight between 30_40?????
  And add another fatman weight??
  Most of those upper weight matches are brutal enough on the eyes and u want to add to it. Wowwwwww!
  Bring back the old weights!

  As a bigger individual, I take exception to the "fatman" classification, lol! But, seriously, I think a 225-230 Hwt (having already cut down) is at a disadvantage to a 260-265+ Hwt. I love the lower weights too and would be in favor of having 15 weight classes in order not to cut one of the lower weights. JMO
• GregHines

  I agree with 15 weight classes - makes it tough for smaller schools and programs. So you get back to the question (there is another post for it): Is wrestling a team or individual sport?
• rassler

  It is what it is;1378423 wrote:As a bigger individual, I take exception to the "fatman" classification, lol! But, seriously, I think a 225-230 Hwt (having already cut down) is at a disadvantage to a 260-265+ Hwt. I love the lower weights too and would be in favor of having 15 weight classes in order not to cut one of the lower weights. JMO

  It is LESS of a disadvanatage than a 90 pound freshman wrestling 106. As Lites has posted I am not sure if even the most rabid fans can take having to act like another heavier weight is even remotely interesting.
  
  260-230=30 lb difference or 13% of his body weight.
  106-90= 16 lb difference or 18% of his body weight.
• Maverick15

  This is just being brutally honest, but smaller and middle weights are more exciting to watch and contain the more of the majority of the wrestlers. Also you see way more less experienced guys having success in the upper weights than in the lower weights. Just a fact. I think taking away and depleting the smaller weights is hurting the sport of wrestling. No offense to the big guys. Not saying we should get rid of them either, but no need to add to them and dilute what is already shallow talent.
• Dad4Sports

  Maverick15;1379023 wrote: but no need to add to them and dilute what is already shallow talent.

  Too late.....already been done.
• SDDad

  USMCdevil2005;1375824 wrote:Already working on it my man! Should be all the way done ready to post in the next few days.

  
  Hey Devil, any update on this?
• bump_and_run

  SDDad;1379720 wrote:Hey Devil, any update on this?

  lol... still waiting!!
• Dust_E_Roads

  rassler;1379016 wrote:
  260-230=30 lb difference or 13% of his body weight.
  106-90= 16 lb difference or 18% of his body weight.

  A.) It is really 285 to 220, not 260 to 230. (not sure why you pared it inside the actual range, unless it was to distort the issue perhaps?!?)
  
  B.) Where are all of these 90 pound kids who wrestle 106? I haven't seen one all year?