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• loganelmdad

  At the pin cancer meet at C-ville there was a guy with a video camera, anyone know if the matches are going to be uploaded and to where?
• CoachTim

  loganelmdad;677688 wrote:At the pin cancer meet at C-ville there was a guy with a video camera, anyone know if the matches are going to be uploaded and to where?

  
  It was on CGTV5. Not sure of the schedule and how many times it will be playing...
• cradle3

  Circleville was up around 9-1 or so at the begininng of the 1st. The F.U. boy had established a lead late in the 3rd, somewhere in the ball park of 17-16. Circleville takes a timeout (which lasts forever), they go back in & Circleville has regained energy. The DQ came when F.U. was kicking his opponent out & the opponent was unable to base up.
• decath

  All-League Honors
  
  103: 1.Cummings (CV), 2.Nace (TV), 3.Shannon(AC)
  112: 1.Brady (CW), 2.King (TV), 3. Collier (FU)
  119: 1.Laux (LE), 2. Morehart (TV), 3. Napier (HT)
  125: 1.Ankrom (BC) MWW!!! 2.Dilley (AC), 3.Hutchins
  130: 1.Tullius (CW), 2.Nace (TV), 3.Kern (CV)
  135: 1.Boswell (CW) 2.Dunn (TV) 3.Holloway (CV)
  140: 1.Luft (TV), 2.T.Koehl (HT) 3. Corns (AC)
  145: 1.Oehlers (FU), 2.Griffith (TV), 3.Pinstock (AC)
  152: 1.Gibson (BC), 2.Foreman (AC), 3.Perez (HT)
  160: 1.Tipton (AC), 2.Otero (CV), 3.Calloway (CW)
  171: 1.Leidecker (TV), 2.Fox (LE), 3.Minnard (AC)
  189: 1.Chenetski (AC), 2.Crum (HT), 3.Noice (FU)
  215: 1.Tucker (HT), 2.Genders (AC), 3.Eveland (LE)
  285: 1.Settles (HT), 2.Pressley (CW), 3.Ford (CV)
• loganelmdad

  CoachTim;677758 wrote:It was on CGTV5. Not sure of the schedule and how many times it will be playing...

  
  Thanks!
• Dad4Sports

  Nice job by the AC coaches ducking Ankrom on Sat....guess they really wanted that 2nd place league finish for Dilley (didn't wrestle Ankrom or Hutchins)
• loganelmdad

  decath;677829 wrote:All-League Honors
  
  103: 1.Cummings (CV), 2.Nace (TV), 3.Shannon(AC)
  112: 1.Brady (CW), 2.King (TV), 3. Collier (FU)
  119: 1.Laux (LE), 2. Morehart (TV), 3. Napier (HT)
  125: 1.Ankrom (BC) MWW!!! 2.Dilley (AC), 3.Hutchens
  130: 1.Tullius (CW), 2.Nace (TV), 3.Kern (CV)
  135: 1.Boswell (CW) 2.Dunn (TV) 3.Holloway (CV)
  140: 1.Luft (TV), 2.T.Koehl (HT) 3. Corns (AC)
  145: 1.Oehlers (FU), 2.Griffith (TV), 3.Pinstock (AC)
  152: 1.Gibson (BC), 2.Foreman (AC), 3.Perez (HT)
  160: 1.Tipton (AC), 2.Otero (CV), 3.Calloway (CW)
  171: 1.Leidecker (TV), 2.Fox (LE), 3.Minnard (AC)
  189: 1.Chenetski (AC), 2.Crum (HT), 3.Noice (FU)
  215: 1.Tucker (HT), 2.Genders (AC), 3.Eveland (LE)
  285: 1.Settles (HT), 2.Pressley (CW), 3.Ford (CV)

  Where were these posted from? Surprised no Davis from Circleville at 135,Macioce at 125, or Cowell at 135 since he beat both#2 and #3 Saturday. Maybe selected before Saturday and just now posted.
• Headoutside

  Best way to determine all league honors is have them wrestle in a tournament. There is way to many intangibles with this method. Many if not all teams move guys around in order to win the dual meet. There would be numerous changes to the honored wrestlers under a tournament format. Hutchens would pin Dilley, Nace has beaten Tullius numerous times outside of the league. Emmonds didnt have enough matches to get a ranking. There are many more examples this is just a quick few.
• CoachTim

  Headoutside;677927 wrote:Best way to determine all league honors is have them wrestle in a tournament. There is way to many intangibles with this method. Many if not all teams move guys around in order to win the dual meet. There would be numerous changes to the honored wrestlers under a tournament format. Hutchens would pin Dilley, Nace has beaten Tullius numerous times outside of the league. Emmonds didnt have enough matches to get a ranking. There are many more examples this is just a quick few.

  
  Correct. There is no good way to rank kids in the league by weight when every team moves kids around each week to get a team win. But there is no better way to determine a true MSL Team champion that Round Robbin duals like we do now. The focus is on team's. Individual rankings is just a byproduct from the team duals.
• Dad4Sports

  loganelmdad;677912 wrote:Where were these posted from? Surprised no Davis from Circleville at 135,Macioce at 125, or Cowell at 135 since he beat both#2 and #3 Saturday. Maybe selected before Saturday and just now posted.

  Nope.....meeting was yesterday. No coaches vote....went strictly by the criteria set forth in the bylaws.....whatever those are
• keato5

  If there was a tourney I believe this is how is might of played out!
  103 Cummings
  112 King or Brady
  119 Knul or Morehart
  125 Ankrom
  130 Nace
  135: Boswell
  140: Luft
  145: Pinstock
  152: Otero
  160: Tipton
  171: Leidecker
  189: Chenetski
  215: Genders
  285: Settles
• CoachTim

  keato5;678104 wrote:If there was a tourney I believe this is how is might of played out!
  103 Cummings
  112 King or Brady
  119 Knul or Morehart
  125 Ankrom
  130 Nace
  135: Boswell
  140: Luft
  145: Pinstock
  152: Otero
  160: Tipton
  171: Leidecker
  189: Chenetski
  215: Genders
  285: Settles

  
  What is the date of this imaginary tournament?
  145 Dietrich was 2-0 against Pinkstock before he broke his hand. (actually 1-0 before the break, 1-0 after the break and before the cast was put on)
  189 Ford was 1-1 with Chenetski. The win was in OT at LE, and The loss in the duals was the match that put him out with his injury. (Both very good wrestlers)
  
  I think you are pretty accurate.
  About 10 of the 14 weights would not have changed if it was a bracket.
• rassler

  Where has USMCdevil been? He is usually all over the MSL thread.
• loganelmdad

  keato5;678104 wrote:If there was a tourney I believe this is how is might of played out!
  103 Cummings
  112 King or Brady
  119 Knul or Morehart
  125 Ankrom
  130 Nace
  135: Boswell
  140: Luft
  145: Pinstock
  152: Otero
  160: Tipton
  171: Leidecker
  189: Chenetski
  215: Genders
  285: Settles

  
  I think you are pretty close with those choices. I guess we will never know.
• Dad4Sports

  rassler;678159 wrote:Where has USMCdevil been? He is usually all over the MSL thread.

  Maybe having a bit of indigestion from eating that plate of crow.....
  
  Just kiddin' with ya......love the fact that he never is afraid to state his opinion.....no PC crap for him!
• Dad4Sports

  D4Sports Imaginary Tournament....
  
  103: Cummings
  112: Brady
  119: Knul
  125: Ankrom/Hutchins
  130: Boswell
  135: Davis
  140: Luft
  145: Oehlers/Griffith/Pinstock
  152: Gibson
  160: Tipton/Otero
  171: Leidecker
  189: Chenetski/Crum
  215: Tucker
  285: Settles/Pressley
• Gman

  Well since we do not have a tourney to decide individual won't sectionals then districts bring out the best of the best . What I mean is kids will be at their respected weight they do well at sectionals then you may see them face each other at districts since schools are going to different sectionals.
• Dad4Sports

  Gman;678292 wrote:Well since we do not have a tourney to decide individual won't sectionals then districts bring out the best of the best . What I mean is kids will be at their respected weight they do well at sectionals then you may see them face each other at districts since schools are going to different sectionals.

  Not really....teams will be all over the map for district
  
  Teays Valley D1 Hilliard Darby
  Canal Winchester D2 East
  Hamilton Township D2 East
  Circleville D2 Goshen
  Logan Elm D2 Goshen
  Fairfield Union D2 Goshen
  Amanda Clearcreek D3 Coshocton
  Bloom Carroll D3 Coshocton
• Gman

  I forgot the division differences thanks!
• Gale_force

  loganelmdad;677912 wrote:Where were these posted from? Surprised no Davis from Circleville at 135,Macioce at 125, or Cowell at 135 since he beat both#2 and #3 Saturday. Maybe selected before Saturday and just now posted.

  I agree, no disrespect to the boys that are listed above, I'm certain they all deserve recognition, but how in the world does Davis get left out? I've seen this boy wrestle several times this year.
  I know he wrestled against Lancaster and looked very good, surprised that he is not one of the 3 best 135's in the MSL....Did all 3 of 135ers beat Davis?
• bigdawg

  Gale_force;678536 wrote:I agree, no disrespect to the boys that are listed above, I'm certain they all deserve recognition, but how in the world does Davis get left out? I've seen this boy wrestle several times this year.
  I know he wrestled against Lancaster and looked very good, surprised that he is not one of the 3 best 135's in the MSL....Did all 3 of 135ers beat Davis?

  Gale_force, Davis is very good and I'm a little surprised that he isn't in the top 3 as well. I know he was out sick for a week or 2, not sure how many duals he missed...Maybe that's what happened. Also, the MSL is very strong this year, I would guess that at least the top 3 or 4 could have been competitive in the OCC this year...
• keato5

  Davis didnt get beat at 135, he wrestled up a couple times I think and might have missed a match or two.
• sparky305

  Thats right keato. He wrestled 145 because detrich broke his hand and we did not have another to insert. Did not fair as well but did so to try and help win a team title.
• Dad4Sports

  sparky305;678619 wrote:Thats right keato. He wrestled 145 because detrich broke his hand and we did not have another to insert. Did not fair as well but did so to try and help win a team title.

  
  Coaches vote is the way to go.....sure there would be some arguments, but it would be way more accurate than this criteria thing they used. In league duals, kids are moved all over the place in the line-up to help maximize the "team" results. But then we turn around and use those same results to determine individual awards? Sort of like mixing apples and oranges......
  
  The coaches know who the best kids are in most cases.......
• keato5

  Agreed it doesnt make sense! Perfect example Hutchins is behind Dilley...... Dilley is a good wrestler but Hutchins is probably on the podium at state this year. I just think its unfair to the kids. If every coach would go into thinking who would I take at each weight class if I had to choose an all-star team....They could easily do the job.