I’ll condense it’s down to these 15 teams and let’s put together a top 10 so far

No order:

Bills

Patriots 

Ravens

Steelers

Browns

Titans 

Colts

Chiefs

Saints

Buccaneers

Packers

Bears

Seahawks

Rams

49ers

Raiders/Panthers if you think

What say you?

I’ll go:

1. Chiefs

2. Seahawks

3. Rams

4. Ravens

5. Packers

6. Bills

7. Steelers

8. Saints

9. Patriots

10. Titans

Edit: No Garappolo

1. Chiefs

2. Seahawks

3. Ravens

4. Steelers

5. Patriots

6. Packers

7. Saints

8. Titans

9. Bills

10. Colts

Also receiving votes: Bucs, Cowboys, Rams, Raiders, 49ers

posted by gut

1. Chiefs

2. Seahawks

3. Ravens

4. Steelers

5. Patriots

6. Packers

7. Saints

8. Titans

9. Bills

10. Colts

Also receiving votes: Bucs, Cowboys, Rams, Raiders, 49ers

posted by Laley23
Excellent trolling. Or you are now the least credible poster here. Not sure which.

LOL.   I think his post in the other thread mentioned it's hard to read about 25 teams because of no preseason.  DAL has talent playing in a weak division, and lost to the Rams by 3 and the Seahawks by 7.

I listed 15 teams, which means I think DAL has been pretty average.  And despite getting blown out by the Stains, I stand by that.

posted by gut

LOL.   I think his post in the other thread mentioned it's hard to read about 25 teams because of no preseason.  DAL has talent playing in a weak division, and lost to the Rams by 3 and the Seahawks by 7.

I listed 15 teams, which means I think DAL has been pretty average.  And despite getting blown out by the Stains, I stand by that.

They are also the worst played onside away from 0-4. 

posted by Laley23

They are also the worst played onside away from 0-4. 

I responded to this after reading his post in the other thread.  So simply I think DAL stumbled out of the gate, with no preseason and all, but will end-up being a top-15 team, possibly top-10.

And I think CLE will end-up sucking like they have every year for well over a decade.  It's a culture of losing.

1. Kansas City
   
2. Seattle
3. Green Bay
4. Indianapolis 
5. Baltimore
6. Buffalo
7. Pittsburgh
8. Los Angeles Rams
9. Tennessee
10. San Francisco (based on current personnel) 

• Arizona, Cleveland and New England fighting for top-10 with Tennessee and SF.
  

posted by Laley23

1. Kansas City
   
2. Seattle
3. Green Bay
4. Indianapolis 
5. Baltimore
6. Buffalo
7. Pittsburgh
8. Los Angeles Rams
9. Tennessee
10. San Francisco (based on current personnel) 

• Arizona, Cleveland and New England fighting for top-10 with Tennessee and SF.
  

Indy at 4?

posted by Ironman92

Indy at 4?

posted by gut
They're playing some great defense, but I agree with you mainly because I think Rivers was done last year.

Losing to Jags by a TD knocks from top 4 IMO

posted by Ironman92

Losing to Jags by a TD knocks from top 4 IMO

Again, depends on the context.  In the other thread you mentioned it's hard to read because of no preseason, but in this thread you said "Top-10 so far".

I like that context - let's not overweight one game.

posted by Ironman92

Indy at 4?

They are above average everywhere, and tops at a lot of places. 

Great D-Line. Arguably the top LB in football anchoring that level. Decent secondary starting to get healthy (though Hooker our hurts). Overall, top defense in the league thus far.

O-Line is one of the best (if not best) with the best guard we’ve seen in a few decades. First round picks all over it with Castanzo and Kelley. Rivers is old and washed, but still smart and capable. Skill position is probably the weakest unit individually, but collectively they have just enough. TY, Taylor, Hines, Pascal, etc. Nothing flashy, but not bad. 

Also, reverse jinx for the Browns week 5 lol.

Bottom 1 list:

Chiefs
Seahawks
Packers
Bills
Ravens
Rams
Steelers
Saints
Titans
BROWNS

1. Chiefs (40)

2. Seahawks (36)

T-3 Packers (27)

T-3 Ravens (27)

T-5 Steelers (19)

T-5 Bills (19)

7. Rams (16)

8. Saints (10)

T-9 Titans (8)

T-9 Colts (8)

Other receiving votes 11. 49ers (2), 12. Browns (1)

Again...but after Week 5 now

1. Seahawks

2. Chiefs

3. Packers

4. Ravens

5. Steelers

6. Rams

7. Titans

8. Browns

9. Raiders

10. Bills

Let’s get 5 or 6 more opinions and I’ll tally them up

1. Chiefs

2. Seahawks

3. Steelers

4. Titans

5. Ravens

6. Tompa Bay!

7. Bears

8. Rams

9. Packers

10. tie between Bills and Saints.

Raiders and Colts feeling frisky. 

Mine after this week:

1. Seahawks

2. Chiefs

3. Ravens

4. Steelers

5. Titans 

6. Bears

7. Raiders

8. Buccaneers

9. Packers

10. Rams

Not comfortable 6-10

Probably have Packers too low. 5 or 6 would make more sense. 

posted by friendfromlowry

Probably have Packers too low. 5 or 6 would make more sense. 

I mostly agree with that and the rest of Ironman's rankings, although I think technically you shouldn't put undefeated PIT below BAL and KC after they just demolished CLE.

Bucs and Raiders emerging to be sleepers (I know TB isn't really a sleeper).

I wouldn’t argue with having Pittsburgh ahead of KC. Just think the Chiefs offense is the most dangerous thing in football and what keeps them at #1 for me. 

1. Kansas City
   
2. Seattle
3. Pittsburgh
4. Baltimore
5. Green Bay
6. Tennessee
7. Indianapolis 
8. Los Angeles Rams
9. Tampa Bay
10. Chicago....I guess

• Just missed: Cleveland, Arizona, New Orleans and Dallas.
  

posted by Laley23

1. Kansas City
   
2. Seattle
3. Pittsburgh
4. Baltimore
5. Green Bay
6. Tennessee
7. Indianapolis 
8. Los Angeles Rams
9. Tampa Bay
10. Chicago....I guess

• Just missed: Cleveland, Arizona, New Orleans and Dallas.

posted by friendfromlowry
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You’ll have to re-read the first page...