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Ironman92

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Fri, Jan 26, 2018 10:57 PM

Sounds like some bad stuff going on in Mich State basketball and especially football going back about 10 years....but ESPN Outside the Lines bringing out a lot of incidents

Ironman92

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Fri, Jan 26, 2018 11:03 PM

16 players accused of rape/assault since Dantoni began...one handled by having player speak with his mother?

Associate coach under Izzo accused and two basketball players as well

salto

Senior Member

Sat, Jan 27, 2018 8:09 AM

The AD has stepped down, now I'm thinking the cleaning will also include Dantonio and possibly even Izzo.   

ironman02

Senior Member

Sat, Jan 27, 2018 8:56 AM

http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/22214566/pattern-denial-inaction-information-suppression-michigan-state-goes-larry-nassar-case-espn

Sounds awful.  

I saw Dantonio do a press conference last night saying that the claims involving him, or accusations against football, weren't true.  Basically, he said that anything that happened was reported to the proper authorities and was handled in the correct manner.  Guess we'll see.

Ironman92

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Sat, Jan 27, 2018 10:35 AM
posted by ironman02

http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/22214566/pattern-denial-inaction-information-suppression-michigan-state-goes-larry-nassar-case-espn

Sounds awful.  

I saw Dantonio do a press conference last night saying that the claims involving him, or accusations against football, weren't true.  Basically, he said that anything that happened was reported to the proper authorities and was handled in the correct manner.  Guess we'll see.

Yeah he had the stern sharp answers you hope are true...but we’ve seen that before also. Even if he did everything g on his end there was a lot of stuff that was football players.

Izzo looked like hell during his. Maybe his game wore him out (he’s gets tore up with the best of them)....but he looked like he was about to puke.

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Sat, Jan 27, 2018 10:49 AM

I find it hard to believe that Izzo and Dantonio had no idea this was all happening. I'm not saying they're pieces of shits who encouraged or enabled it to happen; but, they definitely had some idea this was happening and decided to turn a blind eye to it. 

Michigan State is about to get fucking destroyed with infractions. 

Ironman92

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Sat, Jan 27, 2018 12:43 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

I find it hard to believe that Izzo and Dantonio had no idea this was all happening. I'm not saying they're pieces of shits who encouraged or enabled it to happen; but, they definitely had some idea this was happening and decided to turn a blind eye to it. 

Michigan State is about to get fucking destroyed with infractions. 

And atrocious and affecting PR

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Sat, Jan 27, 2018 4:43 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

I find it hard to believe that Izzo and Dantonio had no idea this was all happening. I'm not saying they're pieces of shits who encouraged or enabled it to happen; but, they definitely had some idea this was happening and decided to turn a blind eye to it. 

Michigan State is about to get fucking destroyed with infractions. 

Wouldn't enabling be having some idea it was happening and turning a blind eye? 

vball10set

paying it forward

Sun, Jan 28, 2018 9:07 AM
posted by friendfromlowry

Wouldn't enabling be having some idea it was happening and turning a blind eye? 

absolutely it is...and imo, Dantonio or Izzo will not be at MSU next season--I don't think the axe will fall for both of them.

 

ernest_t_bass

12th Son of the Lama

Sun, Jan 28, 2018 10:54 AM

I don't like the idea of "turning a blind eye," rather, I feel the way this (in my head) was probably handled (by Izzo/Dantonio... if they were aware) was, "I trust that the authorities above me and in place at this institution will handle this situation the proper way."  Hopefully there is record of each of them notifying someone above them... doubt it, though. 

FatHobbit

Senior Member

Sun, Jan 28, 2018 10:57 PM
posted by vball10set

absolutely it is...and imo, Dantonio or Izzo will not be at MSU next season--I don't think the axe will fall for both of them.

 

 

The only time the ncaa has any teeth is when someone else does the investigating. I would not be surprised if MSU gets hammered for this. (And it looks like the ncaa pres may get hit too) 

wkfan

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Mon, Jan 29, 2018 8:35 AM
posted by vball10set

absolutely it is...and imo, Dantonio or Izzo will not be at MSU next season--I don't think the axe will fall for both of them.

 

I do.....both programs have multiple accusations during the current coaching tenure for Dantonio and Izzo.

While I really like both of them, in fact Izzo is my favorite college basketball coach, I don't see them surviving this in our current cultural climate.

vball10set

paying it forward

Mon, Jan 29, 2018 10:10 AM
posted by wkfan

I do.....both programs have multiple accusations during the current coaching tenure for Dantonio and Izzo.

While I really like both of them, in fact Izzo is my favorite college basketball coach, I don't see them surviving this in our current cultural climate.

I agree with you, it's just that I don't think it'll happen to both of them--it's too much of a hit at one time...jmo.

 

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Mon, Jan 29, 2018 4:30 PM

How did they transition from gymnastics to football/basketball anyways? A week ago it was all about Nassar/gymnastics and a few days later they're digging up the other programs potentially covering up rape? 

Ironman92

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Mon, Jan 29, 2018 4:37 PM
posted by friendfromlowry

How did they transition from gymnastics to football/basketball anyways? A week ago it was all about Nassar/gymnastics and a few days later they're digging up the other programs potentially covering up rape? 

Outside the Lines got digging and have been for a while it sounds.

vball10set

paying it forward

Tue, Jan 30, 2018 9:59 AM
posted by friendfromlowry

How did they transition from gymnastics to football/basketball anyways? A week ago it was all about Nassar/gymnastics and a few days later they're digging up the other programs potentially covering up rape? 

His Michigan State connection led to inquiries at the school...and then the floodgates opened...

 

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Tue, Jan 30, 2018 11:21 AM
posted by friendfromlowry

How did they transition from gymnastics to football/basketball anyways? A week ago it was all about Nassar/gymnastics and a few days later they're digging up the other programs potentially covering up rape? 

Mainly due to how the university administration's comments illustrated how negligent they were in following up on Nassar complaints, I think. Like the trustee saying the university president shouldn't be canned because she's done a lot of fundraising for the school and other tone-deaf comments. So it kind of went to "If they didn't investigate this shit, what else did they let go?".