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SportsAndLady

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Sat, Mar 10, 2018 10:33 AM
posted by Crimson streak

Looks like Shelton will be the next one to go. Maybe to Seattle for earl Thomas? 

I looked all over and couldn't find a decent source for this. Just a bunch of random people on twitter. I don't see us sending good talent on the D-Line away. 

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Sat, Mar 10, 2018 10:57 AM

I haven’t seen anything concrete either other than Dustin fox saying a trade is in the works and Lane from the OBR saying there are two in the works. But no mention of who

i have seen a bunch of randoms saying Shelton and Coleman have been rumored.

slingshot4ever

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 10, 2018 11:26 AM

Absolutely not on Baker for me unless you can get him in the 2nd round.

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 10, 2018 11:28 AM
posted by iclfan2

I haven’t seen anything concrete either other than Dustin fox saying a trade is in the works and Lane from the OBR saying there are two in the works. But no mention of who

i have seen a bunch of randoms saying Shelton and Coleman have been rumored.

Have also heard stuff that there could be a 4th deal before the weekend's over. Names I'm hearing are Earl Thomas and the Honey Badger. Danny Shelton, as mentioned, could be on the move too.

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 10, 2018 11:31 AM
posted by slingshot4ever

Absolutely not on Baker for me unless you can get him in the 2nd round.

Yeah, I don't get this. The dude's main flaw is that he isn't 6'3". Other than that, he's the best in this class. If he's 6'2" or taller, it's a no brainer to turn in the card at 1. He's not a turnover machine like Darnold. He's not a potential injury risk like Rosen. And he CAN hit the broad side of a barn, unlike Allen.

I agree that with the drafting of Taylor, either Mayfield or even Lamar Jackson (later) could be the pick.

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 10, 2018 11:33 AM

I imagine if you guys are already "hearing" about it, it means it's not happening. 

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 10, 2018 11:41 AM

With the addition of Landry, I could also see Duke Johnson moved. Duke was more of a slot receiver/RB than a pure RB and Landry will likely get most of these targets.

SportsAndLady

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Sat, Mar 10, 2018 11:43 AM
posted by BR1986FB

With the addition of Landry, I could also see Duke Johnson moved. Duke was more of a slot receiver/RB than a pure RB and Landry will likely get most of these targets.

Huh? Just because Duke could catch out of the backfield, doesn't make him a slot receiver. He's still a RB and lined up the majority of the time in the backfield.  That would make no sense to send out a good pass catching RB (especially in today's NFL) because we got one of the best slot WRs in football.

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Sat, Mar 10, 2018 12:01 PM

Well there it is, but underwhelming... Shelton to the Patriots for a conditional pick

Belly35

Elderly Intellectual

Sat, Mar 10, 2018 12:08 PM

#1 Josh Allen  and 4 Barkley

Depending on Joe Thomas the next picks will be offense line, line back and defense players. wide receiver will be filled in with free agent 

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 10, 2018 12:12 PM

Haha welp, I was wrong. Fuck me. 

Pretty sucky to send good talent on the D Line away to the fucking patriots of all teams for an underwhelming conditional pick in return. 

That 2015 first round, donezo. 

Belly35

Elderly Intellectual

Sat, Mar 10, 2018 12:20 PM
posted by BR1986FB

With the addition of Landry, I could also see Duke Johnson moved. Duke was more of a slot receiver/RB than a pure RB and Landry will likely get most of these targets.

Duke Johnson will play the Cleveland Browns role of the much like Patriot's Edelman

Crimson streak

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 10, 2018 12:20 PM

Shelton wasn’t a fit. So I figured it was coming. Dorsey likes his pass rushing DT’s. I don’t like the compensation for him but that’s most likely the best they could get for him 

Belly35

Elderly Intellectual

Sat, Mar 10, 2018 12:26 PM
posted by Crimson streak

Shelton wasn’t a fit. So I figured it was coming. Dorsey likes his pass rushing DT’s. I don’t like the compensation for him but that’s most likely the best they could get for him 

Agree...

.more speed, quickness than Sheldon could provided

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Sat, Mar 10, 2018 12:31 PM

Browns just completely  undervalued Shelton.  I could have possibly been convinced on that trade if they just sent Shelton, but why include a 5th round pick?

Shelton will do well for the pats imo. He is only 24. They gave up on him way too early considering he has shown some flashes. Just another draft class we can mark as a complete failure 👍. The browns must have a record of first rounds picks that were no longer with the team before their first contract.

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 10, 2018 12:50 PM
posted by like_that

Browns just completely  undervalued Shelton.  I could have possibly been convinced on that trade if they just sent Shelton, but why include a 5th round pick?

Shelton will do well for the pats imo. He is only 24. They gave up on him way too early considering he has shown some flashes. Just another draft class we can mark as a complete failure 👍. The browns must have a record of first rounds picks that were no longer with the team before their first contract.

This. 

Dont give me that “Shelton didn’t fit in our defense” bullshit lol. He was a good young player that we just gave up for practically nothing. He’ll be a pro bowler in NE in two years, book it. 

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Sat, Mar 10, 2018 1:04 PM

After reading some of the stuff on twitter I guess it makes more sense. Browns weren’t going to re-sign so you get a pick while you can. He also only played 44% of snaps last year

Commander of Awesome

Senior Pwner

Sat, Mar 10, 2018 1:24 PM
posted by iclfan2

After reading some of the stuff on twitter I guess it makes more sense. Browns weren’t going to re-sign so you get a pick while you can. He also only played 44% of snaps last year

He was hurt a few games in there, leading to low snap %.

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 10, 2018 1:32 PM
posted by Crimson streak

Shelton wasn’t a fit. So I figured it was coming. Dorsey likes his pass rushing DT’s. I don’t like the compensation for him but that’s most likely the best they could get for him 

This. I look for Dorsey to go hard after one of his guys, Dontari Poe, in FA to replace Shelton.

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 10, 2018 1:38 PM
posted by iclfan2

Well there it is, but underwhelming... Shelton to the Patriots for a conditional pick

Sounds like they are just swapping two mid round picks but no details yet.

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Sat, Mar 10, 2018 1:41 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Sounds like they are just swapping two mid round picks but no details yet.

I saw we gave up this years 4th to get a 3rd next year

Al Bundy

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 10, 2018 2:24 PM

Shelton was in horrible shape last year, which is a big part of why he sucked, and probably contributed to his injuries. If New England can get him to lose some weight and improve his conditioning, he has a chance to be good.

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 10, 2018 3:55 PM

One area the Browns should improve in massively this year is in the red zone. Taylor protects the ball very well versus Deshone "How's he going to screw this up" Kizer. This in itself should equate to 3-4 wins.

I love the fact that Hue & Zampese lobbied for McCarron while Haley & Dorsey liked Taylor. For some reason I think Hue believes he's running this organization.

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 10, 2018 4:00 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

 That 2015 first round, donezo. 

Just saw a stat where the Browns have no 1st round players (that they drafted) on the roster from the 2009 through 2015 drafts. Jesus...

Also saw that part of the reasoning for these trades was that there could've been concern about the Browns being snubbed in FA, after 0-16, so they traded for their guys instead.

BRF

Senior Member

Sat, Mar 10, 2018 5:46 PM

I'm remaining skeptical, but I like the trades and the direction we are going in.