What would it take to leave your current job?

jmog

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 25, 2022 6:12 PM

Ok, let’s assume the culture, management, etc is the same/similar at both places. 


Let’s assume someone is asking you to change to a similar/same role.


Let’s also assume you actually like what you are doing, you like your boss, the pay is good, and you have been doing well…


If a recruiter got ahold of you, what kind of pay increase would you need to justify leaving a job/place you like?


10%?

20%?

30%?


More?

jmog

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 25, 2022 6:13 PM

Weird, meant to have 30, 40, and “wouldn’t leave” as options but the website cut it off. 


Ignore the poll I guess and just say how much and why/why not.


Curio

superman

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 25, 2022 6:28 PM

I just got offered 20% by a competitor. I told the boss. He matched it within 24 hours.  

Automatik

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 25, 2022 6:43 PM

I’m rather satisfied at my current company, but the industry is volatile.

A 25% pay bump, also remote, similar role, and a stable company. I’d bounce. 

I actually just had a call with the recruiter who got me my current job. Flat out told them, “don’t come to me unless the pay is X and the job is remote.” 

Ironman92

Administrator

Tue, Jan 25, 2022 6:46 PM

If everything else the same (and my drive would be decently shorter)

20% would probably get me….but some many variables that are impossible to be the same, so that risk would take 30%+

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Tue, Jan 25, 2022 6:52 PM

Added the additional options to the poll.

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Tue, Jan 25, 2022 6:55 PM

20% would definitely do it. My only requirement is fully remote.

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Tue, Jan 25, 2022 7:07 PM

I’d Probly do 20% if my life stays the same. My caveat is I work in an industry where what I do locally is public, so would have to make sure that doesn’t effect it. 

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 25, 2022 7:10 PM

It’d have to be 30%. I really like my job besides the pandemic aspect. I like the culture, the people, I really like the location. 

jmog

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 25, 2022 7:34 PM
posted by superman

I just got offered 20% by a competitor. I told the boss. He matched it within 24 hours.  

Oof, I have heard that was typically a bad idea as your current company now knows you were looking and may start looking for your replacement.


Hope it works out for you and what I have heard is wrong.


Congratulations on the nice pay increase however.


gut

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 25, 2022 7:47 PM
posted by jmog

Oof, I have heard that was typically a bad idea

I've heard that in the past, as well.  Version I heard was it creates resentment on both sides.  You got your raise, but you start feeling you were taken advantage of being underpaid all that time...

But this is definitely a market where that might not be true. 

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Tue, Jan 25, 2022 7:51 PM

I also got a raise recently after getting an offer. The other company offered a higher salary, with an automatic bump after 1 year, but overall benefits were better at current job. No resentment in the end.

gut

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 25, 2022 8:06 PM
posted by justincredible

I also got a raise recently after getting an offer. The other company offered a higher salary, with an automatic bump after 1 year, but overall benefits were better at current job. No resentment in the end.

It's one of those things that sounds intuitive, but I have no idea if there's actual science/research behind it.

I've worked with a lot of companies, and I don't think I've ever seen or heard of anyone "pre-emptively" replace someone they were afraid might leave.  Just imagine what it would do to morale/culture if a manager pulled that.  I'm sure there are managers out there who would, but they'd have to be a real psychopath.

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 25, 2022 8:29 PM

Wouldn't leave. Been with my company going on 29 years and am an owner. Have stock in the company and my income  potential is unlimited. Company culture is perfect for me. I typically work about 3.5 to 4 days per week.

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 25, 2022 8:38 PM

I would not leave. My boss lives in Europe and I work at home. Pay is great and people are excellent. 

jmog

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 25, 2022 9:23 PM
posted by justincredible

I also got a raise recently after getting an offer. The other company offered a higher salary, with an automatic bump after 1 year, but overall benefits were better at current job. No resentment in the end.

Care to give how that went down? Interviewed, got offer, used offer for leverage? Or something different?


justincredible

Honorable Admin

Tue, Jan 25, 2022 10:13 PM
posted by jmog

Care to give how that went down? Interviewed, got offer, used offer for leverage? Or something different?


The offer wasn’t necessarily intended for leverage. I was almost certainly planning on leaving when I initially told them about the offer. In the end I chose to stay, partly due to the weird tech stack of the new company, partly due to strong feelings for the people I currently work with on a daily basis. 


Laley23

GOAT

Tue, Jan 25, 2022 10:31 PM

Eliminate weekend work, and probably 10%. If that remained, 30% or more.

jmog

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 25, 2022 11:15 PM
posted by justincredible

The offer wasn’t necessarily intended for leverage. I was almost certainly planning on leaving when I initially told them about the offer. In the end I chose to stay, partly due to the weird tech stack of the new company, partly due to strong feelings for the people I currently work with on a daily basis. 


Do you feel like there has been any of the negative risks that people think will happen when you tell them you had an offer yet stayed? Like tension about “loyalty”, about if they are looking for other people in case you leave or they want to replace you, etc?


sportchampps

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 25, 2022 11:31 PM

I’m managing a Mental Health office right now it has 7 providers. I’ve been there about 6 months and I absolutely have the best boss I’ve ever worked for in any organization. I took this job with just management experience and no healthcare experience and am probably a little underpaid but I wouldn’t think about leaving unless my manager left. If my manager left I would just ship after a year for a 10-20% increase. 

kizer permanente

Senior Member

Wed, Jan 26, 2022 5:53 AM

Honestly... probably not a ton. I even like my job. But I have a character flaw where I get bored easily with nearly everything. Job included. Sometimes I look for new jobs not even b/c I'm unhappy, but just for something to do. Same with cars. Same with houses. I'm sure there's a mental diagnosis for it. 

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Wed, Jan 26, 2022 6:54 AM
posted by kizer permanente

Honestly... probably not a ton. I even like my job. But I have a character flaw where I get bored easily with nearly everything. Job included. Sometimes I look for new jobs not even b/c I'm unhappy, but just for something to do. Same with cars. Same with houses. I'm sure there's a mental diagnosis for it. 

Whatever it is, my mother in law has it, too. Except she actually buys those houses and cars. She spends money like she hates it.


justincredible

Honorable Admin

Wed, Jan 26, 2022 9:18 AM
posted by jmog

Do you feel like there has been any of the negative risks that people think will happen when you tell them you had an offer yet stayed? Like tension about “loyalty”, about if they are looking for other people in case you leave or they want to replace you, etc?


Not even a little.

j_crazy

7 gram rocks. how i roll.

Wed, Jan 26, 2022 9:20 AM
posted by justincredible

20% would definitely do it. My only requirement is fully remote.

i'm here also. i would leave for 20% if it was an identical role, still 100% in person, and the commute was identical.


i'd leave for 10-15% less money if it meant i could be 100% remote and had no restrictions on where i could live.

sportchampps

Senior Member

Wed, Jan 26, 2022 8:17 PM
posted by kizer permanente

Honestly... probably not a ton. I even like my job. But I have a character flaw where I get bored easily with nearly everything. Job included. Sometimes I look for new jobs not even b/c I'm unhappy, but just for something to do. Same with cars. Same with houses. I'm sure there's a mental diagnosis for it. 

I think I would rather have this then the people who are afraid of change


superman

Senior Member

Wed, Jan 26, 2022 9:33 PM
posted by jmog

Oof, I have heard that was typically a bad idea as your current company now knows you were looking and may start looking for your replacement.


Hope it works out for you and what I have heard is wrong.


Congratulations on the nice pay increase however.


I finished at 378% of my sales goal in 2021.  If they want to replace me, good luck.