Ok, let’s assume the culture, management, etc is the same/similar at both places. 

Let’s assume someone is asking you to change to a similar/same role.

Let’s also assume you actually like what you are doing, you like your boss, the pay is good, and you have been doing well…

If a recruiter got ahold of you, what kind of pay increase would you need to justify leaving a job/place you like?

10%?

20%?

30%?

More?

Weird, meant to have 30, 40, and “wouldn’t leave” as options but the website cut it off. 

Ignore the poll I guess and just say how much and why/why not.

Curio

I just got offered 20% by a competitor. I told the boss. He matched it within 24 hours.  

I’m rather satisfied at my current company, but the industry is volatile.

A 25% pay bump, also remote, similar role, and a stable company. I’d bounce. 

I actually just had a call with the recruiter who got me my current job. Flat out told them, “don’t come to me unless the pay is X and the job is remote.” 

If everything else the same (and my drive would be decently shorter)

20% would probably get me….but some many variables that are impossible to be the same, so that risk would take 30%+

Added the additional options to the poll.

20% would definitely do it. My only requirement is fully remote.

I’d Probly do 20% if my life stays the same. My caveat is I work in an industry where what I do locally is public, so would have to make sure that doesn’t effect it. 

It’d have to be 30%. I really like my job besides the pandemic aspect. I like the culture, the people, I really like the location. 

posted by superman

I just got offered 20% by a competitor. I told the boss. He matched it within 24 hours.  

Oof, I have heard that was typically a bad idea as your current company now knows you were looking and may start looking for your replacement.

Hope it works out for you and what I have heard is wrong.

Congratulations on the nice pay increase however.

posted by jmog

Oof, I have heard that was typically a bad idea

I've heard that in the past, as well.  Version I heard was it creates resentment on both sides.  You got your raise, but you start feeling you were taken advantage of being underpaid all that time...

But this is definitely a market where that might not be true. 

I also got a raise recently after getting an offer. The other company offered a higher salary, with an automatic bump after 1 year, but overall benefits were better at current job. No resentment in the end.

posted by justincredible

I also got a raise recently after getting an offer. The other company offered a higher salary, with an automatic bump after 1 year, but overall benefits were better at current job. No resentment in the end.

It's one of those things that sounds intuitive, but I have no idea if there's actual science/research behind it.

I've worked with a lot of companies, and I don't think I've ever seen or heard of anyone "pre-emptively" replace someone they were afraid might leave.  Just imagine what it would do to morale/culture if a manager pulled that.  I'm sure there are managers out there who would, but they'd have to be a real psychopath.

Wouldn't leave. Been with my company going on 29 years and am an owner. Have stock in the company and my income  potential is unlimited. Company culture is perfect for me. I typically work about 3.5 to 4 days per week.

I would not leave. My boss lives in Europe and I work at home. Pay is great and people are excellent. 

posted by justincredible

I also got a raise recently after getting an offer. The other company offered a higher salary, with an automatic bump after 1 year, but overall benefits were better at current job. No resentment in the end.

Care to give how that went down? Interviewed, got offer, used offer for leverage? Or something different?

posted by jmog

Care to give how that went down? Interviewed, got offer, used offer for leverage? Or something different?

The offer wasn’t necessarily intended for leverage. I was almost certainly planning on leaving when I initially told them about the offer. In the end I chose to stay, partly due to the weird tech stack of the new company, partly due to strong feelings for the people I currently work with on a daily basis. 

Eliminate weekend work, and probably 10%. If that remained, 30% or more.

posted by justincredible

The offer wasn’t necessarily intended for leverage. I was almost certainly planning on leaving when I initially told them about the offer. In the end I chose to stay, partly due to the weird tech stack of the new company, partly due to strong feelings for the people I currently work with on a daily basis. 

Do you feel like there has been any of the negative risks that people think will happen when you tell them you had an offer yet stayed? Like tension about “loyalty”, about if they are looking for other people in case you leave or they want to replace you, etc?

I’m managing a Mental Health office right now it has 7 providers. I’ve been there about 6 months and I absolutely have the best boss I’ve ever worked for in any organization. I took this job with just management experience and no healthcare experience and am probably a little underpaid but I wouldn’t think about leaving unless my manager left. If my manager left I would just ship after a year for a 10-20% increase. 

Honestly... probably not a ton. I even like my job. But I have a character flaw where I get bored easily with nearly everything. Job included. Sometimes I look for new jobs not even b/c I'm unhappy, but just for something to do. Same with cars. Same with houses. I'm sure there's a mental diagnosis for it. 

posted by kizer permanente

Honestly... probably not a ton. I even like my job. But I have a character flaw where I get bored easily with nearly everything. Job included. Sometimes I look for new jobs not even b/c I'm unhappy, but just for something to do. Same with cars. Same with houses. I'm sure there's a mental diagnosis for it. 

Whatever it is, my mother in law has it, too. Except she actually buys those houses and cars. She spends money like she hates it.

posted by jmog

Do you feel like there has been any of the negative risks that people think will happen when you tell them you had an offer yet stayed? Like tension about “loyalty”, about if they are looking for other people in case you leave or they want to replace you, etc?

Not even a little.

posted by justincredible

20% would definitely do it. My only requirement is fully remote.

i'm here also. i would leave for 20% if it was an identical role, still 100% in person, and the commute was identical.

i'd leave for 10-15% less money if it meant i could be 100% remote and had no restrictions on where i could live.

posted by kizer permanente

Honestly... probably not a ton. I even like my job. But I have a character flaw where I get bored easily with nearly everything. Job included. Sometimes I look for new jobs not even b/c I'm unhappy, but just for something to do. Same with cars. Same with houses. I'm sure there's a mental diagnosis for it. 

I think I would rather have this then the people who are afraid of change

posted by jmog

Oof, I have heard that was typically a bad idea as your current company now knows you were looking and may start looking for your replacement.

Hope it works out for you and what I have heard is wrong.

Congratulations on the nice pay increase however.

I finished at 378% of my sales goal in 2021.  If they want to replace me, good luck.